Re: Bank Leumi's old site - works (again) with mozilla

2004-08-31 Thread Shachar Shemesh
Meir Kriheli wrote: I had a problem using the old site since mozilla 1.4 (or 1.5 - can't remember) - couldn't login (they were accesing a form in javascript as it was global var, instead of using document.getElementById). After some nagging to their tech support and their complaints department the

OT: changing banks and customer service (was: Bank Leumi's old site - works (again) with mozilla)

2004-08-31 Thread Ira Abramov
Quoting Shachar Shemesh, from the post of Tue, 31 Aug: They didn't give me much more, but a little more. See http://www.consumer.org.il/ I have closed my account with Hayashir Harishon due to their indifferent behavior. MAYBE Leumi will be better. well, I'm sorry that of all the banks

Re: Bank Leumi's old site - works (again) with mozilla

2004-08-31 Thread Meir Kriheli
Stanislav Malyshev wrote: SS I have closed my account with Hayashir Harishon due to their SS indifferent behavior. MAYBE Leumi will be better. Isn't Hayashir and Leumi the same company? Their web banking seem to be indentical, even the same login works for it, and Hayashir seems to be just a

Re: Bank Leumi's old site - works (again) with mozilla

2004-08-31 Thread Alexander V. Karelin
Shachar, 1) Yashir Ha Rishon is a branch of Leumi. It's official banking ID is 10-678. 2) Their site doesn't work with IE either, btw. I'm using it once in a while, but there are a lot of functions that do not work. And when it comes to something like foreign exchange operations - it's

Re: OT: changing banks and customer service (was: Bank Leumi's old site - works (again) with mozilla)

2004-08-31 Thread Nadav Har'El
On Tue, Aug 31, 2004, Ira Abramov wrote about OT: changing banks and customer service (was: Bank Leumi's old site - works (again) with mozilla): I think I actually PREFFER a bank with no online access these days... Why? Especially when with social engineering much more damage could be done to

I'm not the process you think I am

2004-08-31 Thread Muli Ben-Yehuda
Salutations! I would like to have a process that will - run with de-facto root priviledges (can do anything root can do) - appears to be running under a different user with standard ps / top and friends Any ideas on how to achieve this? I tried setting the real UID to X and the effective UID to

Re: Bank Leumi's old site - works (again) with mozilla

2004-08-31 Thread Yosef Meller
Alexander V. Karelin wrote: BTW: The Bank Hapoalim site that I'm using as well is even worse... In fact, it does not work at all. It's been 6 months now that Hapoalim tries to fix the problem with wire transfers through internet. Actually the reason I stay with Poalim and do not move my

Re: Bank Leumi's old site - works (again) with mozilla

2004-08-31 Thread Alexander V. Karelin
On Tue, 31 Aug 2004, Yosef Meller wrote: Alexander V. Karelin wrote: BTW: The Bank Hapoalim site that I'm using as well is even worse... In fact, it does not work at all. It's been 6 months now that Hapoalim tries to fix the problem with wire transfers through internet.

Re: I'm not the process you think I am

2004-08-31 Thread Nadav Har'El
On Tue, Aug 31, 2004, Nadav Har'El wrote about Re: I'm not the process you think I am: You can try doing this with Linux's little-known capabilities feature. This allows you to have any user id, but with some of root's capabilities, like binding any network address or writing any file (for

Re: Bank Leumi's old site - works (again) with mozilla

2004-08-31 Thread amos
Alexander V. Karelin wrote: On Tue, 31 Aug 2004, Yosef Meller wrote: Alexander V. Karelin wrote: BTW: The Bank Hapoalim site that I'm using as well is even worse... In fact, it does not work at all. It's been 6 months now that Hapoalim tries to fix the problem with wire transfers through

Re: I'm not the process you think I am

2004-08-31 Thread Nadav Har'El
On Tue, Aug 31, 2004, Nadav Har'El wrote about Re: I'm not the process you think I am: On second thought, while it's easy to have a root (uid 0) owned process with lesser privelges (useful for enhanced security), it's less clear how to use the capabilities mechanism to elevate the capabilities

Re: I'm not the process you think I am

2004-08-31 Thread Muli Ben-Yehuda
On Tue, Aug 31, 2004 at 01:21:47PM +0300, Nadav Har'El wrote: You can try doing this with Linux's little-known capabilities feature. This allows you to have any user id, but with some of root's capabilities, like binding any network address or writing any file (for example) magically turned

Re: I'm not the process you think I am

2004-08-31 Thread Muli Ben-Yehuda
On Tue, Aug 31, 2004 at 01:33:30PM +0300, Nadav Har'El wrote: On Tue, Aug 31, 2004, Nadav Har'El wrote about Re: I'm not the process you think I am: You can try doing this with Linux's little-known capabilities feature. This allows you to have any user id, but with some of root's

Memory upgrade question for hardware gurus

2004-08-31 Thread Omer Zak
My desktop has 256MB memory, and nowadays the swap area gets used once in a while (RedHat 8.0 together with Mozilla, httpd and mysqld). So, I would like to add more memory to the computer. The motherboard is of 2002 vintage (478 socket, P-4 1.7GHz) and the memory is a single PC-2100 256MB DDRAM

Re: I'm not the process you think I am

2004-08-31 Thread Anatoly Vorobey
On Tue, Aug 31, 2004 at 12:56:50PM +0300, Muli Ben-Yehuda wrote: Salutations! I would like to have a process that will - run with de-facto root priviledges (can do anything root can do) - appears to be running under a different user with standard ps / top and friends Depending on whom you

Re: I'm not the process you think I am

2004-08-31 Thread Muli Ben-Yehuda
On Tue, Aug 31, 2004 at 03:48:53PM +0300, Anatoly Vorobey wrote: On Tue, Aug 31, 2004 at 12:56:50PM +0300, Muli Ben-Yehuda wrote: Salutations! I would like to have a process that will - run with de-facto root priviledges (can do anything root can do) - appears to be running under a

Re: I'm not the process you think I am

2004-08-31 Thread amos
Muli Ben-Yehuda wrote: On Tue, Aug 31, 2004 at 03:48:53PM +0300, Anatoly Vorobey wrote: Depending on whom you wish to deceive (human or another program) and how clever they are, you may want to try something as simple as (oh-dear-God-I-don't-believe-I'm-gonna-say-it) naming uid 0 something

Re: Memory upgrade question for hardware gurus

2004-08-31 Thread Shaul Karl
Here's what the 1st match in google's groups section had: PC2100 RAM can run up to 266MHz while PC2700 RAM can run up to 333MHz. The actual speed is dependant on the motherboard. Both can run at lower speeds. The search was for `PC-2100 vs. PC-2700'. Usual disclaimer applies. If

Re: I'm not the process you think I am

2004-08-31 Thread Muli Ben-Yehuda
On Tue, Aug 31, 2004 at 04:33:40PM +0300, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Muli - could you give a little more background on what are you trying to achieve? Make a process which is running with root capabilities appear in a standard ps output as though it belongs to user 'foo'. I can't change ps; I

Re: I'm not the process you think I am

2004-08-31 Thread amos
Muli Ben-Yehuda wrote: On Tue, Aug 31, 2004 at 04:33:40PM +0300, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Muli - could you give a little more background on what are you trying to achieve? Make a process which is running with root capabilities appear in a standard ps output as though it belongs to user

Re: Bank Leumi's old site - works (again) with mozilla

2004-08-31 Thread Alon Altman
On Tue, 31 Aug 2004, Alexander V. Karelin wrote: On Tue, 31 Aug 2004, Yosef Meller wrote: Alexander V. Karelin wrote: BTW: The Bank Hapoalim site that I'm using as well is even worse... In fact, it does not work at all. It's been 6 months now that Hapoalim tries to fix the problem

Re: I'm not the process you think I am

2004-08-31 Thread Alon Altman
On Tue, 31 Aug 2004, Muli Ben-Yehuda wrote: On Tue, Aug 31, 2004 at 04:33:40PM +0300, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Muli - could you give a little more background on what are you trying to achieve? Make a process which is running with root capabilities appear in a standard ps output as though

Re: I'm not the process you think I am

2004-08-31 Thread Muli Ben-Yehuda
On Tue, Aug 31, 2004 at 05:21:45PM +0300, Alon Altman wrote: Can you load a kernel module? If so, you can load one that intercepts the access to the /proc filesystem. Nope, that as well as any other method of patching the running kernel (there are several...) is covered by the no kernel

Re: I'm not the process you think I am

2004-08-31 Thread Muli Ben-Yehuda
On Tue, Aug 31, 2004 at 05:34:15PM +0300, Anatoly Vorobey wrote: Can you surreptitiously modify LD_PRELOAD for the user who'll be running ps/top (by modifying their startup files or whatever)? If you can, write a tiny library that redirects open() to itself and, in case a process is trying

Re: I'm not the process you think I am

2004-08-31 Thread Muli Ben-Yehuda
On Tue, Aug 31, 2004 at 06:52:51PM +0300, Gilad Ben-Yossef wrote: Make a process which is running with root capabilities appear in a standard ps output as though it belongs to user 'foo'. I can't change ps; I can't change the kernel. I can only use the standard POSIX APIs. I do have root on

Re: bash, konsole, login shell and suspend.

2004-08-31 Thread Dan Armak
On Monday 30 August 2004 23:25, Oron Peled wrote: On Monday 30 August 2004 22:14, David Harel wrote: How do you make konsole add the -l option to the bash invocation or, how do you make things behave as they should? on Settings-Configure Konsole there is a session pane. You can configure

Re: Memory upgrade question for hardware gurus

2004-08-31 Thread Adir Abraham
On Tue, 31 Aug 2004, Omer Zak wrote: The motherboard is of 2002 vintage (478 socket, P-4 1.7GHz) and the memory is a single PC-2100 256MB DDRAM module (PC-2100 is rated at 266MHz). My not-so-wild guess is that you have a i845 chipset, or VIA-compatible chipsets. I would like to know whether

Re: I'm not the process you think I am

2004-08-31 Thread Anatoly Vorobey
On Tue, Aug 31, 2004 at 06:42:35PM +0300, Muli Ben-Yehuda wrote: Can you surreptitiously modify LD_PRELOAD for the user who'll be running ps/top (by modifying their startup files or whatever)? If you can, write a tiny library that redirects open() to itself and, in case a process is

cvs import fails on the /dev directory

2004-08-31 Thread Boaz Rymland
Hi, I want to manage a special machine's tree with cvs, but when trying to import the tree with cvs import(... ), cvs aborts soon with this message: cvs [import aborted]: reading dev/eda: No such device or address :-( How do I bypass this? I know of the cvsignore facility but AFAIK it can

Re: I'm not the process you think I am

2004-08-31 Thread Muli Ben-Yehuda
On Tue, Aug 31, 2004 at 08:15:56PM +0300, Anatoly Vorobey wrote: [nitpicking follows] [nitpickers are us] I'm not suggesting replacing the file (impossible in /proc w/o changing the kernel or the mounting), I'm suggesting replacing the *descriptor*. I'm not suggesting replacing the file

Re: I'm not the process you think I am

2004-08-31 Thread Anatoly Vorobey
On Tue, Aug 31, 2004 at 09:41:46PM +0300, Muli Ben-Yehuda wrote: On Tue, Aug 31, 2004 at 08:15:56PM +0300, Anatoly Vorobey wrote: [nitpicking follows] [nitpickers are us] The nits have all been picked now, and no disagreements remain. While we're at it though, here's a considerably

Re: I'm not the process you think I am

2004-08-31 Thread Shachar Shemesh
Muli Ben-Yehuda wrote: Agreed, in this specific case. I was thinking ps/top might be doing something funky with the /proc/$PID/* files they read, but it looks like a very simple open/read/close, e.g.: open(/proc/6/cmdline, O_RDONLY) = 8 read(8, , 2047) = 0 close(8) So

Re: I'm not the process you think I am

2004-08-31 Thread Shachar Shemesh
Muli Ben-Yehuda wrote: Nah, I consider kernel modules just a semi-organized way of patching the kernel, and kernel changes are not allowed. *insert standard rant about why oh, we don't modify the kernel, we just load a driver! doesn't mean squat in Linux, and it very much _does_ modify the

Re: I'm not the process you think I am

2004-08-31 Thread Muli Ben-Yehuda
On Tue, Aug 31, 2004 at 10:06:02PM +0300, Shachar Shemesh wrote: Is this a bet with someone? If so, would consulting a user group be considered cheating? If so, can I squirm you out of another dinner for keeping it secret? :-) Heh, there's a real world problem there, trust me. If it wasn't

Re: Memory upgrade question for hardware gurus

2004-08-31 Thread Ez-Aton
Well, faster memory *should* work on lower speed slots, however, it doesn't always work. It's issue with the CAS latency, and it might (or might not) fit your current memory. Although it's likely your new memory will work on your board, it is more likely it will not work together with the

Re: Memory upgrade question for hardware gurus

2004-08-31 Thread Omer Zak
Adir Abraham wrote: On Tue, 31 Aug 2004, Omer Zak wrote: I would like to know whether it is OK to use a 512MB PC-2700 (333MHz) module in the same system, and whether I can mix both DDRAMs (to have total of 768MB). It is OK. It will do the work. Both modules will work at their lower, agreed speed.

[Fwd: Re: Debian Reference Card Hebrew translation]

2004-08-31 Thread Lior Kaplan
Hi Guys, Could you help in answering? LaTeX isn't my field of expertise. -- Regards, Lior Kaplan [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.Guides.co.il Debian GNU/Linux unstable (SID) Original Message Subject: Re: Debian Reference Card Hebrew translation Date: Tue, 31 Aug 2004 08:10:07 +

Re: bash, konsole, login shell and suspend.

2004-08-31 Thread Oron Peled
On Tuesday 31 August 2004 19:30, Dan Armak wrote: There's also a parameter 'konsole -ls' that starts a login shell. Hmmm... just like xterm(1)... so I started looking for other compatible options: 1. While the konsole --help shows all long options starting with a '--' (like getopts_long

Re: [Fwd: Re: Debian Reference Card Hebrew translation]

2004-08-31 Thread Tzafrir Cohen
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