Dear original poster -
While we're asking bigger picture questions - what do you need CASE for?
this is not a rhetorical question. All of these tools take quite a bit
of work to get them to help you. Unless you have a precisely defined
need, you might get some pretty pictures, but are very
Disclaimer - I have no fortran experience.
I don't agree with the particular ideas you mention as important, but I
understand the point about the initial experience being better with a
clean language.
I think clean language is one that doesn't have leaky abstractions
(think C arrays). IIUC,
Common practice notwithstanding, in any teaching mission, the zeroeth
directive is don't bore the student. I think that rules out Pascal and
Ada for much the same reasons - they are tedious, verbose languages. The
Polish aunts of programming ;-)
As to strictness, in my experience*, compiler
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- Original Message -
From: Daniel Vainsencher [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Iftach Hyams [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, June 11, 2003 5:11 PM
Subject: RE: What programming language to teach in schools ?
Common
Ach.. this is painful to even read. Loops and conditionals do *not* have
to be language primitives, they can be implemented and explained in
terms of first class functions and polymorphic classes. Which, to the
extent needed most of the time, are also simpler concepts. This is true,
despite them
Hmm, informed discourse... ok, I'm tempted back.
Beni Cherniavsky [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
First-class functions are quite simple. Polymorphic classes - a bit
harder. Yet doing loops and conditionals with them *is* harder to
comprehend than::
for i in [1, 2, 3]:
if i != 2:
Nadav Har'El [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
[An initiation to computers through unix]
Sounds wonderful. Wish I'd discovered Unix before PCs.
But because I
have a bigger perspective of several programming methodologies, I haven't
become a religious-OO-devotee like some people who learn C++ first have
Hi Tzafrir 8-)
Tzafrir Cohen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
(i ~= 2) ifTrue: [Transcript show: i]]
Actually, this is implemented as:
There are two types of booleans: true and false. When true gets
the message 'ifTrue' it runs whatever code comes with the message. When
false gets the
The best Paul Graham article on this subject is
http://www.paulgraham.com/paulgraham/icad.html
Which should convince you that if someone is telling you that language A
he knows and you don't is better than language B you both know, you
should learn at least a little of A just in case he's right.
Do you have a pointer to some documentation of what they are expecting?
obviously, people won't be able to chip in if they don't know what it's
about.
I saw the short summary on the hamakor projects page but without links
to a kineret project description, a summary of your proposal to
them/their
For a person that actually cares about accessing his bank account via
the web, being able to do so from the software he uses is very
important. I wouldn't change to a bank that forced me to move physically
just to get information or give orders.
And being exposed to the security concerns related
I think a good focus is important markets and monopoly institutes. Banks
are a good example, but focusing on a specific bank might be counter
productive - if someone there has an interest in the status-quo, there's
not much to do about it.
However, there are various reasons all banks should want
] wrote:
Daniel Vainsencher wrote:
But really, in summary - who cares about retribution. Just get a
bayesian filter, they work VERY well, they subsume most other related
techniques in there (a white list is formed automatically, for example),
and it doesn't require much thought.
It's
in most other languaged might be
significantly longer... :-)
Daniel
David Harel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Daniel Vainsencher wrote:
Are you kidding? this would -
Of course, the problem is someone would have to BE this
central authority, and we'd have to trust it not to misuse all
That's the beauty of bayesian filters - you don't declare anything in
particular as a spam indicator, you just tell the filter that's spam
when it is wrong. If you filter enough such emails as spam, and assuming
you don't get non-spam html comments, eventually !-- and --! will be
considered strong
haven't received much spam like that.
Right now, the bayesian filter I use makes me quite happy.
Daniel
Tzafrir Cohen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Thu, 23 Jan 2003, Daniel Vainsencher wrote:
I also use a bayesian spam filter, and am very happy with it. Also
google plan for spam/paul graham
Are you kidding? this would -
1. Take too much time
2. Require knowing who the sender really is, which is not trivial
3. Run the risk of reporting an innocent, which has a far higher cost
than me personally losing one email.
OTOH, what we could do, is that after we confirm it's spam (my MUA
I also use a bayesian spam filter, and am very happy with it. Also
google plan for spam/paul graham - the guy that recently revived the
interest in such filters.
Daniel
Guy Baruch [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
IIRC mozilla 1.3a incorporates a bayesian mail filter
This will not help you
those parts of the text.
Daniel Vainsencher
Eli Marmor [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
And a similar question: If I have a collection of hundreds (simple)
regular expressions, and want to find all the matches of them in a long
free text, is there any Open Source library for this purpose? (like
flex
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