Re: Build processes

2006-09-28 Thread Shachar Shemesh
Nadav Har'El wrote: He also describes a situation where make runs configure. That's just silly. Nobody does that, and it doesn't even make sense (running configure would overwrite the Makefile you're now using - what's the point in that?). I haven't read the actual article, but the

Re: Build processes

2006-09-28 Thread Tzahi Fadida
I am starting to understand now that for that particular job i need to be ultra proficient with RCS and RCS related tools and how it can be used with scripts like rsh based shell scripts, perl, etc... (before anyone starts, yes i know RCS is also ultra limited, but that's what happens with

Re: Build processes

2006-09-28 Thread Nadav Har'El
On Thu, Sep 28, 2006, Tzahi Fadida wrote about Re: Build processes: I am starting to understand now that for that particular job i need to be ultra proficient with RCS and RCS related tools and how it can be used with scripts like rsh based shell scripts, perl, etc... RCS is relatively

Re: Build processes

2006-09-28 Thread guy keren
(you didn't state if you are interested in becoming an employee in one company, or a consultant. i assume you're talking about being employed by a single company). if you'll check this issue, you'll find that different companies have completely different definitions for what a configuration

Build processes

2006-09-27 Thread Tzahi Fadida
Hi, I wish to learn more about build process/es. Specifically in C. Background: i am potentially (/trying to) entering the field of CM - Configuration Management. I am told a main part of that is the build process, specifically in the area of dependencies. I am talking about such jobs in very big

Re: Build processes

2006-09-27 Thread Alexander Indenbaum
Tzahi, I could recommend classic paper Recursive Make Considered Harmful http://aegis.sourceforge.net/auug97.pdf It describes a way to build Makefiles with automatic dependencies, meaning no separate make dep target. Non-recursive Makefile builds *exactly* needed files and only them. Saves

Re: Build processes

2006-09-27 Thread Tzahi Fadida
10x, i already started reading it, looks interesting. I am also mainly interested in what is currently done, clear case, clear quest, cvs, svn, etc... and how all the configuration management components comes together. What kind of problems and ways to solutions a CM person have to deal with.

Re: Build processes

2006-09-27 Thread Michael Jaffe
--0-96833692-1159368961=:18489 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit That link doesn't seem to work. Try the following. http://lcgapp.cern.ch/project/architecture/recursive_make.pdf Alexander Indenbaum [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Tzahi, I could recommend

Re: Build processes

2006-09-27 Thread Shlomi Fish
On Wednesday 27 September 2006 14:34, Alexander Indenbaum wrote: Tzahi, I could recommend classic paper Recursive Make Considered Harmful http://aegis.sourceforge.net/auug97.pdf Other links: * What is wrong with make? - http://freshmeat.net/articles/view/1702/ * Make Alternatives -

Re: Build processes

2006-09-27 Thread Nadav Har'El
On Wed, Sep 27, 2006, Shlomi Fish wrote about Re: Build processes: * Stop the Autoconf Insanity - http://freshmeat.net/articles/view/889/ This guy is clearly confused (or worse). Right off the bat he says [the user] runs ./configure --prefix=/opt. The configure script runs for a while