Re: sendfile+zerocopy: fairly sexy (nothing to do with ECN)

2001-01-26 Thread Andrew Morton
Aaron Lehmann wrote: > > On Sat, Jan 27, 2001 at 04:45:43PM +1100, Andrew Morton wrote: > > 2.4.1-pre10-vanilla, using read()/write(): 34.5% CPU > > 2.4.1-pre10+zercopy, using read()/write(): 38.1% CPU > > Am I right to be bothered by this? > > The majority of Unix network traffic is

Re: ps hang in 241-pre10

2001-01-26 Thread J Sloan
OK, It's official now, I didn't know if it was some weird hardware fluke or something, but one of the computers here exhibited the same problem - The system in question is a Pentium II 400, scsi only (aic7xxx), running 2.4.1-pre8 plus Andrew Morton's low latency patches. The user was playing

Re: Kernel 2.4.x and 2.4.1-preX - Higher latency then 2.2.xkernels?

2001-01-26 Thread Shawn Starr
Applying now. Andrew Morton wrote: > Shawn, > > I've pretty much completed the low-latency patch against reiserfs. > It seems to be a little more latency-prone than ext2, but under normal > workloads it's not significant. The worst-case is 100 milliseconds, > but that's when you're doing

Re: Kernel 2.4.x and 2.4.1-preX - Higher latency then 2.2.xkernels?

2001-01-26 Thread Andrew Morton
Shawn, I've pretty much completed the low-latency patch against reiserfs. It seems to be a little more latency-prone than ext2, but under normal workloads it's not significant. The worst-case is 100 milliseconds, but that's when you're doing insane things to it. You may care to apply

[PATCH/REQ] Increase kmsg buffer from 16K to 32K, kernel/printk.c

2001-01-26 Thread David Ford
Does Linus or anyone object to raising the ksmg buffer from 16K to 32K? 4/5 systems I have now overflow the buffer during boot before init is even launched. --- linux/kernel/printk.c~Fri Jan 26 18:50:28 2001 +++ linux/kernel/printk.c Fri Jan 26 23:59:31 2001 @@ -22,7 +22,7 @@ #include

VM breakdown, 2.4.0 family

2001-01-26 Thread David Ford
Since the testN series and up through ac12, I experience total loss of control when memory is nearly exhausted. I start with 256M and eat it up with programs until there is only about 7 megs left, no swap. From that point all user processes stall and the disk begins to grind nonstop. It will

Re: Linux 2.4.0ac12 (ppp-generic)

2001-01-26 Thread Jeff Garzik
Aaron Tiensivu wrote: > > | o Set last_rx on ppp_generic (Jeff Garzik) > > Is this related to my MPPP crashes or is this an unrelated fix? I don't know how MPPP works, so I can't say for sure, but it is most likely an unrelated fix. Jeff -- Jeff Garzik | "You see, in this

Re: ps hang in 241-pre10

2001-01-26 Thread Shawn Starr
I noticed this problem in 2.4.1-pre8. Odd, thats EXACLY what happened to me. I had to do a hard restart as killall locked when i tried to kill ps. Any word on why this is happening? Aaron Lehmann wrote: > On Sat, Jan 27, 2001 at 03:34:26PM +1100, John Sheahan wrote: > > Hi > > my box has

Re: Linux 2.4.0ac12

2001-01-26 Thread Keith Owens
On Fri, 26 Jan 2001 17:46:12 -0800 (PST), "Sergey Kubushin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >Modules still don't load: > >=== Cut === >ide-mod.o: Can't handle sections of type 32131 >ide-probe-mod.o: Can't handle sections of type 256950710 >ide-disk.o: Can't handle sections of type 688840897 >ext2.o:

Re: sendfile+zerocopy: fairly sexy (nothing to do with ECN)

2001-01-26 Thread Aaron Lehmann
On Sat, Jan 27, 2001 at 04:45:43PM +1100, Andrew Morton wrote: > 2.4.1-pre10-vanilla, using read()/write(): 34.5% CPU > 2.4.1-pre10+zercopy, using read()/write(): 38.1% CPU Am I right to be bothered by this? The majority of Unix network traffic is handled with read()/write(). Why

sendfile+zerocopy: fairly sexy (nothing to do with ECN)

2001-01-26 Thread Andrew Morton
(Please keep netdev copied, else Jamal will grump at you, and you don't want that). I've whacked together some tools to measure TCP throughput with both sendfile and read/write. I've tested with and without the zerocopy patch. The CPU load figures are very accurate: the tool uses a

Re: hotmail not dealing with ECN

2001-01-26 Thread Brian May
> "David" == David Wagner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: David> Practice being really, really paranoid. Think: You're David> designing a firewall; you've got some reserved bits, David> currently unused; any future code that uses them could David> behave in completely arbitrary

Re: ps hang in 241-pre10

2001-01-26 Thread Aaron Lehmann
On Sat, Jan 27, 2001 at 03:34:26PM +1100, John Sheahan wrote: > Hi > my box has been running 2.4.1-pre10 for three days. > This morning I noticed odd behavioue - ps and top wouuld freeze > with no output. I had the same problem with 2.4.1-pre10 and the zerocopy patchset. I came home one day and

ps hang in 241-pre10

2001-01-26 Thread John Sheahan
Hi my box has been running 2.4.1-pre10 for three days. This morning I noticed odd behavioue - ps and top wouuld freeze with no output. running strace on 'ps' open("/proc/669/environ", O_RDONLY) = 7 read(7, "INIT_VERSION=sysvinit-2.78\0previ"..., 2047) = 254 close(7)

Re: hotmail not dealing with ECN

2001-01-26 Thread David Wagner
Helge Hafting wrote: >So, no reason for a firewall author to check these bits. You don't think like a firewall designer! :-) Practice being really, really paranoid. Think: You're designing a firewall; you've got some reserved bits, currently unused; any future code that uses them could behave

128M OK but with 192M or more sound problem

2001-01-26 Thread Joel Franco Guzmán
Ok. I've written another mail about this problem and just continuing the relat, with memory changes. Resuming: when i put more than 128M in my machine with the kernel 2.4.0-test10 or above, the ES1371 sound card generate a noisy sound while playing a sound using the DSP of the card. The music

How can I dnderstand Linux Network implementation?

2001-01-26 Thread Donghui Wen
I am hacking the implementation of linux2.4's networking (IPV4) . Can anyone give me some idea what material I should read to understand the data structures and algorithms. I have stevens's books which talked about BSD's implementation. Thanks! Donghui

Is it possible to force don't fragment on a socket?

2001-01-26 Thread Joe deBlaquiere
I'm trying to test a communications path to a remote system and was wondering if I could force the DF bit on some UDP traffic. Does anybody know of a way to do this?? TIA, Joe - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to [EMAIL

Linux 2.4 hangs on PowerBook 150(m68k)

2001-01-26 Thread Rafael Diniz
Linux 2.4.0 hangs in my PowerBook 150(m68030 without fpu, 8Mb ram, 122Mb HD quantum IDE, adb keyboard and mouse) when it is loading the adb driver(after the scsi driver load). The 2.2 boot normally, but I can't acess keyboard nor mouse because it does not have adb support... Thanks Rafael Diniz

Re: Linux 2.4.0ac12

2001-01-26 Thread Sergey Kubushin
On Fri, 26 Jan 2001, Alan Cox wrote: [skipped] Modules still don't load: === Cut === ide-mod.o: Can't handle sections of type 32131 ide-probe-mod.o: Can't handle sections of type 256950710 ide-disk.o: Can't handle sections of type 688840897 ext2.o: Can't handle sections of type 69429248 ===

System hangs completely

2001-01-26 Thread Dale Christ
[1.] System lockup while trying to write to Fujitsu MO drive  (640MB IDE interface)   [2.] This works under RH7.0.  Here's that I do:     insmod ide-scsi ; SCSI emulation needed here     mount /dev/sda /mnt/MO  ; mount the drive     ls -la /mnt/MO  ; see is anything's

Re: Total loss with 2.4.0 (release)

2001-01-26 Thread Mark van Walraven
On Sat, Jan 27, 2001 at 12:12:53AM +0100, Peter 'Luna' Runestig wrote: > In what situation would NT4 default to "fry the whole disk"? I've mixed > Linux/DOS/Win98/NT4/Win2000 several ways on various hardware (>8 GB disks), > with no problems at all actually. I've had Windows suddenly using the

Re: [UPDATE] Zerocopy patches, against 2.4.1-pre10

2001-01-26 Thread Ion Badulescu
On Fri, 26 Jan 2001, Ion Badulescu wrote: > Besides, I've done some more testing last night, and there are some > problems. The FP doesn't seem to like tinygrams too much, every once in a > while (but *not* always) it decides to send one with a bad checksum. I'm > talking especially about telnet

Hang when booting 2.4.0

2001-01-26 Thread Todd Goodman
My apologies in advance if I missed this in the archives (I found three or four threads discussing hangs at boot, but none related to 2.4.0 and the suggestions for older kernels that still applied to code in 2.4.0 didn't change the symptoms). My kernel hangs after the "Ok, booting the kernel."

Linux 2.4.0ac12 (ppp-generic)

2001-01-26 Thread Aaron Tiensivu
| o Set last_rx on ppp_generic (Jeff Garzik) Is this related to my MPPP crashes or is this an unrelated fix? - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/

Re: Running 2.4.0-ac11

2001-01-26 Thread Jens Axboe
On Sat, Jan 27 2001, Matti Långvall wrote: > Best developers, > > I was told to send you these lines by Mr. Marcelo Tosatti, they appear > even though there is no CD in any drive. > System:P3 733, VIA chips, 2 HD IDE drives, DVD and CD-R > > Jan 26 23:44:16 h-10-26-17-2 last message

[OT] Vaio Brightness [WAS: Probably Off-topic Question...]

2001-01-26 Thread Drew Bertola
Ok, I stuffed Tridge's inb / outb program into a little gnome window. Just seems easier to have a spinbox to adjust brightness. Shits and giggles. You can find it at: http://drew.serialhacker.net/vaio_control.tar.gz You either have to run it as root or throw the executable into /usr/local/bin

Linux 2.4.0ac12

2001-01-26 Thread Alan Cox
ftp://ftp.kernel.org/pub/linux/kernel/people/alan/2.4/ 2.4.0-ac12 o Merge Linus -pre10 | This replaces our ppc and most net | protocol diffs o Fix escaped waitpid prototypes (Dave Miller) o smctr driver fixes

Re: Possible Bug: drivers/sound/maestro.c

2001-01-26 Thread Alan Cox
> way up under Linux, I still have to turn the speakers damn near all the > way up just to hear it with my baseline on the subwoofer. That's not my > concern tho, since I can compensate with the speakers (they have an > excellent amp on them). > Some AC97 codecs have external amplifier

Re: ECN -? Anything _I_ need to do to allow it?

2001-01-26 Thread List User
I run a small ISP for my local community and have read some reports about hotmail not supporting it et al. I don't want to be in a position where MY site doesn't support this if it's the correct thing to do. Is there anything special that needs to be done (cisco router config, firewall (ie,

Re: Possible Bug: drivers/sound/maestro.c

2001-01-26 Thread Michael B. Trausch
On Fri, 26 Jan 2001, Barry K. Nathan wrote: > > I haven't done any sound stuff with 2.4 on my Dell Inspiron 5000e, but I > have this problem (or a similar one, anyway -- sometimes the sound becomes > distorted or comes only through one speaker) under both Linux 2.2 and > Win2K. If it was just

[ANNOUNCE] PCI Hot Plug driver and 2.4.0 kernel patches available

2001-01-26 Thread Zink, Dan
Compaq would like to announce the availability of the Linux PCI Hot Plug driver for the Compaq PCI Hot Plug controller. This driver is being released under the GPL. It supports hot plug add and remove of nearly any PCI adapter in servers with the Compaq PCI Hot Plug controller. For best

Re: Total loss with 2.4.0 (release)

2001-01-26 Thread Peter 'Luna' Runestig
From: "Mike A. Harris" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > >> Whwnever you install/upgrade any OS and especially M$ ones on a > >> multiboot machine, you should always ensure ahead of time that > >> they will play nicely together, agree on geometry translation > >> schemes, partitioning schemes, etc, and that

Running 2.4.0-ac11

2001-01-26 Thread Matti Långvall
Best developers, I was told to send you these lines by Mr. Marcelo Tosatti, they appear even though there is no CD in any drive. System:P3 733, VIA chips, 2 HD IDE drives, DVD and CD-R Jan 26 23:44:16 h-10-26-17-2 last message repeated 25 times Jan 26 23:44:47 h-10-26-17-2 kernel: scsi :

Re: [uPATCH][Probably fucked up] arch/i386/kernel/io_apic.c: missing extern? (241p10)

2001-01-26 Thread Rasmus Andersen
On Fri, Jan 26, 2001 at 10:13:35PM +0100, Rasmus Andersen wrote: > Hi. [...] > > But I am in way over my head here so please be gentle when you point > out my mistake. > Already someone did :) I was too sloppy in checking my facts; it is only -ac11 that has the 'int nr_ioapics;' in mpparse.c.

RE: [uPATCH][Probably fucked up] arch/i386/kernel/io_apic.c: missing extern? (241p10)

2001-01-26 Thread Dunlap, Randy
Rasmus, Yep, I noticed this during some recent ServerWorks chipset APIC work I have been doing. nr_ioapics is also used in arch/i386/kernel/apic.c (#ifdef CONFIG_X86_IO_APIC), so that should have an extern int nr_ioapics; also. I'd prefer to see nr_ioapics live near the mp_ioapics[] array,

Re: RE: hotmail not dealing with ECN

2001-01-26 Thread Albert D. Cahalan
>> We may be right, "they" may be wrong, but in the real world >> arrogance rarely wins anyone friends. > > So you also turn of PMTU and just set the MTU to 200 bytes > because broken firewalls may drop ICMP ? Nah, you don't need to go that low. Try 1200 or 1400 instead. - To unsubscribe from

Re: hotmail not dealing with ECN

2001-01-26 Thread H. Peter Anvin
Dominik Kubla wrote: > > On Fri, Jan 26, 2001 at 04:27:07PM +0100, Jamie Lokier wrote: > ... > > Yeah, Apache and Samba establish _outgoing_ connections with fixed > > source ports Not! > > Oops! Of course. Brain-damage on my part. Now where is that dammned > brown paper bag... > ftpd

Re: Renaming lost+found

2001-01-26 Thread NDias
On 01/26/01 01:19 PM James Lewis Nance <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >FWIW IBM's JFS file system does not have a lost+found directory. I dont >remember if reiserfs does or not. >Jim Actually it does. >From one of my rs/6000's sitting here, with a pretty much default AIX install: # uname -a AIX

Re: Undoing chroot?

2001-01-26 Thread Paul Menage
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, you write: > >So how do you reverse a CHROOT? > Assuming your process doesn't drop its root privileges, before you do the initial chroot() you could do: old_root = open("/", O_RDONLY); Then later do fchdir(oldroot); chroot("."); But the cleaner and more

Re: hotmail not dealing with ECN

2001-01-26 Thread Michael H. Warfield
On Fri, Jan 26, 2001 at 01:52:26PM -0800, Stuart Lynne wrote: > In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, > James Sutherland <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >On Fri, 26 Jan 2001, Lars Marowsky-Bree wrote: > >Except you can't retry without ECN, because DaveM wants to do a Microsoft > >and force ECN on

Re: Total loss with 2.4.0 (release)

2001-01-26 Thread Mike A. Harris
On 25 Jan 2001, Kjartan Maraas wrote: >> Whwnever you install/upgrade any OS and especially M$ ones on a >> multiboot machine, you should always ensure ahead of time that >> they will play nicely together, agree on geometry translation >> schemes, partitioning schemes, etc, and that any option

Re: hotmail not dealing with ECN

2001-01-26 Thread Stuart Lynne
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, James Sutherland <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >On Fri, 26 Jan 2001, Lars Marowsky-Bree wrote: >Except you can't retry without ECN, because DaveM wants to do a Microsoft >and force ECN on everyone, whether they like it or not. If ECN is so No, he just wants them to

Re: hotmail not dealing with ECN

2001-01-26 Thread David Ford
"Randal, Phil" wrote: > James Sutherland wrote: > > > Except you can't retry without ECN, because DaveM wants to do > > a Microsoft and force ECN on everyone, whether they like it > > or not. If ECN is so wonderful, why doesn't anybody actually > > WANT to use it anyway? > > And there's the rub.

Re: patch for 2.4.0 disable printk

2001-01-26 Thread David Weinehall
On Fri, Jan 26, 2001 at 09:46:02PM +0100, Stefani Seibold wrote: > Hi Linus, > Hi Alan, > Hi everybody, > > this kernel patch allows to disable all printk messages, by > overloading the printk function with a dummy printk macro. > > This patch is usefull for embedded systems, where the hardware

[uPATCH][Probably fucked up] arch/i386/kernel/io_apic.c: missing extern? (241p10)

2001-01-26 Thread Rasmus Andersen
Hi. In arch/i386/kernel we declare nr_ioapics in both io_apic.c and mpparse.c. I guess that one of them should be an 'extern' declaration? In the patch below I have guessed that it is io_apic.c that is missing it since (AFAICS) never assign to nr_ioapic in this file. But I am in way over my

Re: Possible Bug: drivers/sound/maestro.c

2001-01-26 Thread Tom Sightler
> I haven't done any sound stuff with 2.4 on my Dell Inspiron 5000e, but I > have this problem (or a similar one, anyway -- sometimes the sound becomes > distorted or comes only through one speaker) under both Linux 2.2 and > Win2K. If it was just Linux, I'd assume it was a driver problem, but

Re: Possible Bug: drivers/sound/maestro.c

2001-01-26 Thread Barry K. Nathan
Michael B. Trausch wrote: [snip] > 2.4.0 still does it - not as often, but it still does it. I'm compiling a [snip] I haven't done any sound stuff with 2.4 on my Dell Inspiron 5000e, but I have this problem (or a similar one, anyway -- sometimes the sound becomes distorted or comes only through

Re: Linux 2.2.16 through 2.2.18preX TCP hang bug triggered by rsync

2001-01-26 Thread Dave Dykstra
Replying to Alexey's message from the mailing list archive: > Hello! > > I take my words back. Manfred is right, this requirement is not a MUST. > > Real problem is much worse, and it is wholly on the shame of solaris. > Tcpdump shows at least two different bugs there. > > 2060

patch for 2.4.0 disable printk

2001-01-26 Thread Stefani Seibold
Hi Linus, Hi Alan, Hi everybody, this kernel patch allows to disable all printk messages, by overloading the printk function with a dummy printk macro. This patch is usefull for embedded systems, where the hardware never changes and normaly no textconsole is attachted nor any user will see

Re: [UPDATE] Zerocopy patches, against 2.4.1-pre10

2001-01-26 Thread Ion Badulescu
On Fri, 26 Jan 2001, David S. Miller wrote: > Firstly, I would not configure the card to drop packets with bad > checksums. If you do this, the errors do not propagate into the > correct ipv4 snmp tables, which is bad. Also consider the case where > the card has some bug and it erroneously

Oops accessing file on 2048 bytes/sector vfat MO in 2.4.0

2001-01-26 Thread Stefan Meyknecht
Hi all, I receive a Kernel oops while copying a file from MO-drive (vfat) with 2048 bytes sector size. There is no problen with ext2 formatted MOs. I think it happens because the function pointer cfv_file_read of the struct cvf_format is initialized with null. This oops is 100% reproducable

[RFC] [PATCH] PAT Implementation

2001-01-26 Thread Jeff Hartmann
I've gotten my PAT code working on my PIII boxen here. It seems to be reasonable stable for me. I'd appreciate it if the individuals interested in per page write combining would take a look at it. I've only included initialization code for the AMD and Intel processors. This patch replaces

Re: Renaming lost+found

2001-01-26 Thread patrick . mourlhon
alias ls="ls -I "lost+found"' On Fri, 26 Jan 2001, Mike Harrold wrote: > > > > > > An other maybe too obvious way, could be to : > > > > alias ls='ls | grep -v "lost+found"' > > This turns multiple column output into one single column. > > Regards, > > /Mike - To unsubscribe from this

Re: Renaming lost+found

2001-01-26 Thread Rodrigo Barbosa (aka morcego)
On Fri, Jan 26, 2001 at 01:19:49PM -0500, James Lewis Nance wrote: > On Fri, Jan 26, 2001 at 08:49:31AM -0500, Richard B. Johnson wrote: > > > On Fri, 26 Jan 2001, Rob Kaper wrote: > > > Is there a way to rename lost+found ?? It bothers me to see it in ls all the > > > Get used to it. This is

Re: hotmail not dealing with ECN

2001-01-26 Thread Jeremy M. Dolan
On Fri, 26 Jan 2001 15:29:51 +, James Sutherland wrote: > Except you can't retry without ECN, because DaveM wants to do a Microsoft > and force ECN on everyone, whether they like it or not. Who's forcing? You have to *SPECIFICALLY* enable it in the config, ignoring the notice in the help

Re: hotmail not dealing with ECN

2001-01-26 Thread Alan Shutko
"Adam J. Richter" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > I am surprised that anyone is seriously considering denying > service to sites that do not implement an _experimental_ facility > and have firewalls that try to play things safe by dropping packets > which have 1's in bit positions that in

Re: 2.4.1-pre8 losing pages

2001-01-26 Thread Russell King
Peter Horton writes: > The corruption is dependent on having a swapped on swap partition. If I > "swapoff" the corruption goes away, but it comes back when I "swapon" > again. I feel this a kernel bug, but as I'm the only person out here who's > seeing it I'm at a loss ... What compiler are you

Re: Renaming lost+found

2001-01-26 Thread patrick . mourlhon
An other maybe too obvious way, could be to : alias ls='ls | grep -v "lost+found"' if you are really annoyed by this tiny thing, which is IMHO, really the least thing i could be annoyed of... This took part on Unix file system design, from the old days, as mentioned earlier by others. Also

Re: 2.4.1-pre8 losing pages

2001-01-26 Thread Peter Horton
On Fri, Jan 26, 2001 at 09:24:12AM +, Peter Horton wrote: > On Fri, Jan 26, 2001 at 03:20:33AM +0100, Xuan Baldauf wrote: > > > > Peter Horton wrote: > > > > > I'm experiencing repeatable corruption whilst writing large volumes of > > > data to disk. Kernel version is 2.4.1-pre8, on an

Re: [UPDATE] Zerocopy patches, against 2.4.1-pre10

2001-01-26 Thread kuznet
Hello! > drivers use it at this time, I see a grand total of 2 (hamachi and hme) in Plus acenic in zerocopy. Plus patch to do this is available for eepro100. > I'm just wondering, if a card supports sg but *not* TX csum, is it worth > it to make use of sg? eepro100 falls into this category..

Re: Patches

2001-01-26 Thread Marc Mutz
Thunder from the hill wrote: > > Chris Wedgwood wrote: > > Kmail works fine. > Hmmm. Would be great, but could you get working beyond some proxy? Um, mail proxy? Is there such a beast? I always thought that that was called 'mail server'. Where do you find configuration tabs for that in

Re: hotmail not dealing with ECN

2001-01-26 Thread Chris Meadors
On Fri, 26 Jan 2001, Daniel Chemko wrote: > Microsoft are bad for dropping ICMP because of security.. .I mean try pinging > microsoft.com... It's down, ha ha, Microsoft is down! I'm joking of course. But you don't know how many times my techs have told me that. It's either that, or something

Re: Renaming lost+found

2001-01-26 Thread Andreas Dilger
Rob Kaper writes: > Is there a way to rename lost+found ?? It bothers me to see it in ls all the > time because 99.9% of my time it's just useless and I really think > .lost+found (a hidden file) would make much more sense for daily use. I > assume this would require some ext2 changes as well as

Re: hotmail not dealing with ECN

2001-01-26 Thread Daniel Chemko
Microsoft are bad for dropping ICMP because of security.. .I mean try pinging microsoft.com... James Sutherland wrote: > On Fri, 26 Jan 2001, Lars Marowsky-Bree wrote: > > > On 2001-01-26T16:04:03, > >"Randal, Phil" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: > > > > > We may be right, "they" may be wrong,

Re: hotmail not dealing with ECN

2001-01-26 Thread Matti Aarnio
On Fri, Jan 26, 2001 at 06:37:12PM +, Henning P. Schmiedehausen wrote: ... > Cisco: If I buy a _new_ PIIX oder LDIR today, do I get an ECN capable > IOS or not? If not, will my CCNA know about this and upgrade my Box > before deploying? That cisco box is called PIX -- PIIX sounds like

Re: inode->i_dirty_buffers redundant ?

2001-01-26 Thread Daniel Phillips
"Stephen C. Tweedie" wrote: > > Hi, > > On Thu, Jan 25, 2001 at 09:05:54PM +0100, Daniel Phillips wrote: > > "Stephen C. Tweedie" wrote: > > > We also maintain the > > > per-page buffer lists as caches of the virtual-to-physical mapping to > > > avoid redundant bmap()ping. > > > > Could you

Re: hotmail not dealing with ECN

2001-01-26 Thread Henning P. Schmiedehausen
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Tony Hoyle) writes: > These ISPs will *not* change simply because 1% of Linux users > complain at them. They have been contacted about this and they know > of the problem. I doubt they care. Trust me, they care. Every Admin cares. They have, however, to convice their

Re: hotmail not dealing with ECN

2001-01-26 Thread Henning P. Schmiedehausen
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Chris Ricker) writes: >> If ECN is so wonderful, why doesn't anybody actually WANT to use it >> anyway? >Lots of people do. Lots of other people (such as, in this case, hotmail) >will never upgrade their software until the groundswell of complaints is >more expensive than

network problem (not ECN)

2001-01-26 Thread Mathieu Chouquet-Stringer
Hi everybody! I've seen that the discussion with the ECN thing is quiet interesting and I'm experiencing something strange when I try to ftp to ftp.kernel.org. That's what I get: NcFTP 3.0.1 (March 27, 2000) by Mike Gleason ([EMAIL PROTECTED]). ncftp> open ftp.kernel.org Connecting to

[RFC] Task Ornaments

2001-01-26 Thread David Howells
PROPOSAL I have written a patch (appended) that gives a task structure a list of arbitrary "ornaments". Any number of ornaments can then be added without increasing the size of the task_struct. Each ornament has an operations table, much as do inodes and address spaces. These

Re: Undoing chroot?

2001-01-26 Thread alex
On Fri, Jan 26, 2001 at 10:31:40AM -0800, Paul Powell wrote: > I have a linux bootable CD which executes a custom > init. The job of init is to figure out on which > device the CD is located. After finding the CD, init > mounts the device and executes a CHROOT to set the > root directory to the

Re: hotmail not dealing with ECN

2001-01-26 Thread Graham Murray
"Adam J. Richter" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > I am surprised that anyone is seriously considering denying > service to sites that do not implement an _experimental_ facility > and have firewalls that try to play things safe by dropping packets > which have 1's in bit positions that in

Re: hotmail not dealing with ECN

2001-01-26 Thread Olaf Titz
> > I was not suggesting ignoring these. OTOH, there is no reason to treat an > > RST packet as "go away and never ever send traffic to this host again" - > > i.e. trying another TCP connection, this time with ECN disabled, would be > > acceptable. > > Using a different source port number, even.

Undoing chroot?

2001-01-26 Thread Paul Powell
Hello, I have a linux bootable CD which executes a custom init. The job of init is to figure out on which device the CD is located. After finding the CD, init mounts the device and executes a CHROOT to set the root directory to the CD. After I'm done I'd like to umount the CD and then eject

Re: Renaming lost+found

2001-01-26 Thread James Lewis Nance
On Fri, Jan 26, 2001 at 08:49:31AM -0500, Richard B. Johnson wrote: > On Fri, 26 Jan 2001, Rob Kaper wrote: > > Is there a way to rename lost+found ?? It bothers me to see it in ls all the > Get used to it. This is part of the Linux/Unix heritage! A file-system > without a lost+found directory

Re: ECN

2001-01-26 Thread Andrea Arcangeli
On Fri, Jan 26, 2001 at 12:05:56PM -0500, Simon Kirby wrote: > Hmm... Just wondering: what does TCP then do when it receives this ECN > notification? Try harder, try less? Or does it get a specific packet It will act in the same way if it the packet was dropped (but the packet wasn't dropped).

Re: Packet loss in IP/UDP Stack?

2001-01-26 Thread Andi Kleen
On Fri, Jan 26, 2001 at 07:01:12PM +0100, Martin Rauh wrote: > Hi folks, > > It seems that we are loosing packets in the UDP stack. > Somebody might think that this is not astonishing, but > the packets are not lost at the network layer. They seem to get > lost in the IP/UDP Layer of the

Re: hotmail not dealing with ECN

2001-01-26 Thread Rick Jones
> As David pointed out, it is "reserved for future use - you must set > these bits to zero and not use it _for your own purposes_. For non-rfc > use of these bits _will_ break something the day we start using them > for something useful. > > So, no reason for a firewall author to check these

Packet loss in IP/UDP Stack?

2001-01-26 Thread Martin Rauh
Hi folks, It seems that we are loosing packets in the UDP stack. Somebody might think that this is not astonishing, but the packets are not lost at the network layer. They seem to get lost in the IP/UDP Layer of the receiving box. We have got the following configuration: Two linux boxes (P4,

Re: hotmail not dealing with ECN

2001-01-26 Thread H. Peter Anvin
"Adam J. Richter" wrote: > > I am surprised that anyone is seriously considering denying > service to sites that do not implement an _experimental_ facility > and have firewalls that try to play things safe by dropping packets > which have 1's in bit positions that in the RFC "must be

Re: Linux Post codes during runtime, possibly OT

2001-01-26 Thread David Welch
On Fri, Jan 26, 2001 at 08:19:58AM -0800, H. Peter Anvin wrote: > > A better idea might be to find out what port, if any, Windows uses. If > Windows does it, it is usually safe. > Windows NT 4 Service Pack 6 doesn't use any delay however READ/WRITE_PORT_* are implemented as indirect function

Re: hotmail not dealing with ECN

2001-01-26 Thread Adam J. Richter
I am surprised that anyone is seriously considering denying service to sites that do not implement an _experimental_ facility and have firewalls that try to play things safe by dropping packets which have 1's in bit positions that in the RFC "must be zero." If Microsoft were to

In kernel 2.4.0 in alloc_uhci when doing request_irq()

2001-01-26 Thread Thunder from the hill
Hi, I am using an usual VIA MPV3 onboard USB device (on a AMD K6-II 400 machine), and it has ever worked fine on Linux (until including 2.4.0-test10). Now I wanted to use the "retail" 2.4.0-kernel, and USB gets stuck while booting. Last messages are: usb.c: registered new driver usbdevfs usb.c:

Re: 2.4.0 APM w/ Compaq 16xx laptop...

2001-01-26 Thread Brian Macy
Thanks for the suggestion. Actually got around to trying it... didn't work. But the other thing is that the laptop doesn't support ACPI, just APM. Brian Macy Quoting Erik Mouw <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > On Sun, Jan 07, 2001 at 07:57:42PM -0800, Brian Macy wrote: > > Anyone get this working? If so

Re: hotmail not dealing with ECN

2001-01-26 Thread Drago Goricanec
At Fri, 26 Jan 2001 15:08:21 + (GMT), James Sutherland <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > On Fri, 26 Jan 2001, David S. Miller wrote: > > James Sutherland writes: > > > I was not suggesting ignoring these. OTOH, there is no reason to treat an > > > RST packet as "go away and never ever send

Re: Possible Bug: drivers/sound/maestro.c

2001-01-26 Thread Michael B. Trausch
On Fri, 26 Jan 2001, Georg Nikodym wrote: > > FWIW, I too was having this kind of problem. When I starting living > on 2.4.x kernels the problem went away. Also gone were sound dropping > out when I busied my machine with compiles things. > 2.4.0 still does it - not as often, but it still

Re: inode->i_dirty_buffers redundant ?

2001-01-26 Thread Stephen C. Tweedie
Hi, On Thu, Jan 25, 2001 at 07:11:01PM -0200, Marcelo Tosatti wrote: > > We probably want another kind of "IO buffer" abstraction for 2.5 which can > support buffer's bigger than PAGE_SIZE. > > Do you have any thoughts on that, Stephen? XFS is already doing this, with pagebufs being used in

Re: hotmail not dealing with ECN

2001-01-26 Thread Miquel van Smoorenburg
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Randal, Phil <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >Because if we do try to force it, the response which will come >back won't be "Linux is wonderful, it conforms to the standards". >It will be "Linux sucks, we can't connect to xyz.com with it (or >we can't connect because to

Re: hotmail not dealing with ECN

2001-01-26 Thread Tony Hoyle
Lars Marowsky-Bree wrote: > > So you also turn of PMTU and just set the MTU to 200 bytes because broken > firewalls may drop ICMP ? That doesn't affect huge numbers of websites. In the UK two of the largest ISPs - BT Internet and Freeserve - have ECN-blocking firewalls. So does

Re: RE: hotmail not dealing with ECN

2001-01-26 Thread James Sutherland
On Fri, 26 Jan 2001, Lars Marowsky-Bree wrote: > On 2001-01-26T16:04:03, >"Randal, Phil" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: > > > We may be right, "they" may be wrong, but in the real world > > arrogance rarely wins anyone friends. > > So you also turn of PMTU and just set the MTU to 200 bytes

Re: fat32 corruption with 2.4.0

2001-01-26 Thread Nicolas GOUTTE
Please CC me! Thank you in advance! I don't know if I can help you but who knows! I am running Windows 95 without problems beside Linux, so my knowledge could be not the right one for your problem! 1. Codepages What is the code page used in Finnland by Windows 98 (surely not the American one:

ECN

2001-01-26 Thread Simon Kirby
On Fri, Jan 26, 2001 at 07:14:42AM -0800, David S. Miller wrote: > Jamie Lokier writes: > > Does ECN provide perceived benefits to the node using it? > > Yes, endpoints and intermediate routers can tell the TCP sender about > congestion instead of TCP having to guess about it based upon

2.4.0 quality [was: 2.4.0 uptime]

2001-01-26 Thread Ville Herva
On Fri, Jan 26, 2001 at 08:37:38AM +0100, you [Hans Eric Sandström] claimed: > BP6/Dual Cel 400 (the 2.0 load is setiathome) > -- > [root@zekeserv /root]# uptime > 8:28am up 20 days, 13:04, 2 users, load average: 2.00, 2.00, 2.00 > [root@zekeserv /root]# uname -a > Linux zekeserv 2.4.0 #2

Re: RE: hotmail not dealing with ECN

2001-01-26 Thread Lars Marowsky-Bree
On 2001-01-26T16:04:03, "Randal, Phil" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: > We may be right, "they" may be wrong, but in the real world > arrogance rarely wins anyone friends. So you also turn of PMTU and just set the MTU to 200 bytes because broken firewalls may drop ICMP ? Sincerely, Lars

plug-in schedulers for linux 2_4_0

2001-01-26 Thread Scott Rhine
In the last month, there have been a few more minor changes to Loadable Schedulers for Linux. Both a new patch to the base kernels and deltas to previous downloads are provided. If you download new utilities be sure to download the new kernel, or libpset calls may not behave properly! Changes

Re: Linux Post codes during runtime, possibly OT

2001-01-26 Thread Brian Gerst
"Richard B. Johnson" wrote: > > On Fri, 26 Jan 2001, Manfred Spraul wrote: > > > > + * > > > + * Changed the slow-down I/O port from 0x80 to 0x19. 0x19 is a > > > + * DMA controller scratch register. [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > >*/ > > > > > What about making that a config option? > > > >

Re: Odd network trace...

2001-01-26 Thread Rogier Wolff
David S. Miller wrote: > > Rogier Wolff writes: > > Am I missing something? > ... > > 17:05:59.961324 server.http > client.1880: . 1:1(0) ack 287912 win 0 > (DF) > > server advertises zero window, no data may be sent. Yep, I WAS missing someting. Thanks.

Re: hotmail not dealing with ECN

2001-01-26 Thread H. Peter Anvin
Jamie Lokier wrote: > > Lars Marowsky-Bree wrote: > > First, you are ignoring a TCP_RST, which means "stop trying". > > That's why we stop when we receive the second TCP RST. > It's just like dropping due to congestion, which is of course perfectly > safe in moderation. > No, you can't issue

Re: mapping physical memory

2001-01-26 Thread Pauline Middelink
On Fri, 26 Jan 2001 around 05:39:38 -0500, Dan Maas wrote: > > I need to be able to obtain and pin approximately 8 MB of > > contiguous physical memory in user space. How would I go > > about doing that under Linux if it is at all possible? > > The only way to allocate that much *physically*

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