Re: [Re: gcc: internal compiler error: program cc1 got fatal signal 11]

2001-07-02 Thread Tha Phlash
Ive also had a problem with signal 11, heres a great page explaining the aspects of signal 11 error from gcc (http://www.bitwizard.nl/sig11/). Signal 11 is usually a hardware problem, as the article points out. I found a sloppy soulution playing with my BIOS settings, turns out

Re: [Re: gcc: internal compiler error: program cc1 got fatal signal 11]

2001-07-02 Thread Tha Phlash
Ive also had a problem with signal 11, heres a great page explaining the aspects of signal 11 error from gcc (http://www.bitwizard.nl/sig11/). Signal 11 is usually a hardware problem, as the article points out. I found a sloppy soulution playing with my BIOS settings, turns out

Re: [Re: gcc: internal compiler error: program cc1 got fatal signal 11]

2001-07-01 Thread H. Peter Anvin
Riley Williams wrote: > Hi Peter. > > >> Wasn't 2.2.12 the kernel that included the `lock halt` bug patch? > > > Perhaps, but is has absolutely nothing to do with the rest of > > this discussion. > > The `lock halt` bug patch was specific to the Cyrix processors (not to > be confused with

Re: [Re: gcc: internal compiler error: program cc1 got fatal signal 11]

2001-07-01 Thread H. Peter Anvin
Riley Williams wrote: > > Wasn't 2.2.12 the kernel that included the `lock halt` bug patch? > Perhaps, but is has absolutely nothing to do with the rest of this discussion. -hpa - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to

Re: [Re: gcc: internal compiler error: program cc1 got fatal signal 11]

2001-07-01 Thread H. Peter Anvin
Followup to: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> By author:szonyi calin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> In newsgroup: linux.dev.kernel > > Almost always ? > It seems like gcc is THE ONLY program which gets > signal 11 > Why the X server doesn't get signal 11 ? > Why others programs

Re: [Re: gcc: internal compiler error: program cc1 got fatal signal 11]

2001-07-01 Thread H. Peter Anvin
Followup to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] By author:szonyi calin [EMAIL PROTECTED] In newsgroup: linux.dev.kernel Almost always ? It seems like gcc is THE ONLY program which gets signal 11 Why the X server doesn't get signal 11 ? Why others programs don't get signal 11 ? gcc happens to be one

Re: [Re: gcc: internal compiler error: program cc1 got fatal signal 11]

2001-07-01 Thread H. Peter Anvin
Riley Williams wrote: Wasn't 2.2.12 the kernel that included the `lock halt` bug patch? Perhaps, but is has absolutely nothing to do with the rest of this discussion. -hpa - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line unsubscribe linux-kernel in the body of a message to

Re: [Re: gcc: internal compiler error: program cc1 got fatal signal 11]

2001-07-01 Thread H. Peter Anvin
Riley Williams wrote: Hi Peter. Wasn't 2.2.12 the kernel that included the `lock halt` bug patch? Perhaps, but is has absolutely nothing to do with the rest of this discussion. The `lock halt` bug patch was specific to the Cyrix processors (not to be confused with the `lock

Re: [Re: gcc: internal compiler error: program cc1 got fatal signal 11]

2001-06-29 Thread Albert D. Cahalan
> Almost always ? > It seems like gcc is THE ONLY program which gets > signal 11 > Why the X server doesn't get signal 11 ? > Why others programs don't get signal 11 ? ... > Some time ago I installed Linux (Redhat 6.0) on my > pc (Cx486 8M RAM) and gcc had a lot of signal

Re: [Re: gcc: internal compiler error: program cc1 got fatal signal 11]

2001-06-29 Thread Jesse Pollard
t; > > a application. It only parse and gernerates > > object files. How can RAM or > > > motherboard makes different > > > > It's most likely flackey memory. > > > > Remember- a single bit that dropps can cause the > > signal 11. It doesn't have >

Re: gcc: internal compiler error: program cc1 got fatal signal 11

2001-06-29 Thread David Relson
At 10:20 AM 6/29/01, you wrote: >Almost always ? >It seems like gcc is THE ONLY program which gets >signal 11 >Why the X server doesn't get signal 11 ? >Why others programs don't get signal 11 ? > >I remember that once Bill Gates was asked about >crashes in windows and

Re: [Re: gcc: internal compiler error: program cc1 got fatal signal 11]

2001-06-29 Thread szonyi calin
t; > It's most likely flackey memory. > > Remember- a single bit that dropps can cause the > signal 11. It doesn't have > to happen consistently either. I had the same > problem until I slowed down > memory access (that seemd to cover the borderline > chip). > > The comp

Re: [Re: gcc: internal compiler error: program cc1 got fatal signal 11]

2001-06-29 Thread Jesse Pollard
ed with gcc without any problem. Again compilation is only > a application. It only parse and gernerates object files. How can RAM or > motherboard makes different It's most likely flackey memory. Remember- a single bit that dropps can cause the signal 11. It doesn't have to happen consis

Re: [Re: gcc: internal compiler error: program cc1 got fatal signal 11]

2001-06-29 Thread Erik Mouw
On Thu, Jun 28, 2001 at 11:23:37PM -0600, Blesson Paul wrote: > > "This is almost always the result of flakiness in your hardware - either > RAM (most likely), or motherboard (less likely). " > > I cannot understand this. There are many

Re: [Re: gcc: internal compiler error: program cc1 got fatal signal 11]

2001-06-29 Thread Erik Mouw
On Thu, Jun 28, 2001 at 11:23:37PM -0600, Blesson Paul wrote: This is almost always the result of flakiness in your hardware - either RAM (most likely), or motherboard (less likely). I cannot understand this. There are many other

Re: [Re: gcc: internal compiler error: program cc1 got fatal signal 11]

2001-06-29 Thread Jesse Pollard
compilation is only a application. It only parse and gernerates object files. How can RAM or motherboard makes different It's most likely flackey memory. Remember- a single bit that dropps can cause the signal 11. It doesn't have to happen consistently either. I had the same problem until I slowed

Re: [Re: gcc: internal compiler error: program cc1 got fatal signal 11]

2001-06-29 Thread szonyi calin
that I compiled with gcc without any problem. Again compilation is only a application. It only parse and gernerates object files. How can RAM or motherboard makes different It's most likely flackey memory. Remember- a single bit that dropps can cause the signal 11. It doesn't have

Re: gcc: internal compiler error: program cc1 got fatal signal 11

2001-06-29 Thread David Relson
At 10:20 AM 6/29/01, you wrote: Almost always ? It seems like gcc is THE ONLY program which gets signal 11 Why the X server doesn't get signal 11 ? Why others programs don't get signal 11 ? I remember that once Bill Gates was asked about crashes in windows and he said: It's a hardware problem

Re: [Re: gcc: internal compiler error: program cc1 got fatal signal 11]

2001-06-29 Thread Jesse Pollard
. Remember- a single bit that dropps can cause the signal 11. It doesn't have to happen consistently either. I had the same problem until I slowed down memory access (that seemd to cover the borderline chip). The compiler uses different amounts of memory depending on the source file

Re: [Re: gcc: internal compiler error: program cc1 got fatal signal 11]

2001-06-29 Thread Albert D. Cahalan
Almost always ? It seems like gcc is THE ONLY program which gets signal 11 Why the X server doesn't get signal 11 ? Why others programs don't get signal 11 ? ... Some time ago I installed Linux (Redhat 6.0) on my pc (Cx486 8M RAM) and gcc had a lot of signal 11 (a couple every hour) I

Re: [Re: gcc: internal compiler error: program cc1 got fatal signal 11]

2001-06-28 Thread Blesson Paul
"This is almost always the result of flakiness in your hardware - either RAM (most likely), or motherboard (less likely). " I cannot understand this. There are many other stuffs that I compiled with gcc without any problem. Again

gcc: internal compiler error: program cc1 got fatal signal 11

2001-06-28 Thread Blesson Paul
hi I am trying to compile the kernel2.4.5 source code. Presently I have kernel2.2.14 and Redhat6.2. I have egcs1.2.2. Now when I compile I will get the following error gcc: Internel compiler error: program cc1 got fatal signal 11 make Error 1 Leaving directory

gcc: internal compiler error: program cc1 got fatal signal 11

2001-06-28 Thread Blesson Paul
hi I am trying to compile the kernel2.4.5 source code. Presently I have kernel2.2.14 and Redhat6.2. I have egcs1.2.2. Now when I compile I will get the following error gcc: Internel compiler error: program cc1 got fatal signal 11 make Error 1 Leaving directory

Re: [Re: gcc: internal compiler error: program cc1 got fatal signal 11]

2001-06-28 Thread Blesson Paul
This is almost always the result of flakiness in your hardware - either RAM (most likely), or motherboard (less likely). I cannot understand this. There are many other stuffs that I compiled with gcc without any problem. Again compilation

RE: Is this kernel related (signal 11)?

2001-01-24 Thread Rainer Mager
Hi all, Well, I upgraded my system to glibc 2.2.1 with few problems. Unfortunately, there are no improvements in my stability problems. X still dies. So, I ask again, how can I debug this? How can I determine if this is a kernel problem or not? Thanks, --Rainer - To

RE: Is this kernel related (signal 11)?

2001-01-24 Thread Rainer Mager
Hi all, Well, I upgraded my system to glibc 2.2.1 with few problems. Unfortunately, there are no improvements in my stability problems. X still dies. So, I ask again, how can I debug this? How can I determine if this is a kernel problem or not? Thanks, --Rainer - To

RE: Is this kernel related (signal 11)?

2001-01-23 Thread Rainer Mager
As per Russell King's suggestion, I ran memtest86 on my system for about 12 hours last night. I found no memory errors. Note that the tests did not complete because I had to stop them this morning. I'll contiue them tonight. They got through test 9 of 11. As per David Ford's suggestion, I am

RE: Is this kernel related (signal 11)?

2001-01-23 Thread Rainer Mager
Thanks for all the info, comments below: First, I ran X in gdb and got the following via 'bt' after X died. This is my first experience with gdb so if I should do anything in particular, please tell me. #0 0x401addeb in __sigsuspend (set=0xb930) at

RE: Is this kernel related (signal 11)?

2001-01-23 Thread Rainer Mager
Thanks for all the info, comments below: First, I ran X in gdb and got the following via 'bt' after X died. This is my first experience with gdb so if I should do anything in particular, please tell me. #0 0x401addeb in __sigsuspend (set=0xb930) at

RE: Is this kernel related (signal 11)?

2001-01-23 Thread Rainer Mager
As per Russell King's suggestion, I ran memtest86 on my system for about 12 hours last night. I found no memory errors. Note that the tests did not complete because I had to stop them this morning. I'll contiue them tonight. They got through test 9 of 11. As per David Ford's suggestion, I am

Re: oops, signal 11

2001-01-22 Thread Ralf Baechle
On Sat, Jan 20, 2001 at 01:46:50PM +0100, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > I know that signal 11 with gcc is a sign of bad hardware; however it > strikes me that I don't get random oopses - a whole bunch of them is appended. The compiler tends to hammer harder on the memory than the

Re: Is this kernel related (signal 11)?

2001-01-22 Thread David Ford
Rainer Mager wrote: > > Would this be an SMP IA32 box with glibc 2.2? I have two such boxen > > showing exactly the same behaviour, although I can't reproduce it at will. > > Close, it is actually an SMP IA32 box with glibc 2.1.3. But you've now > convinced me to not upgrade glibc yet ;-)

Re: Is this kernel related (signal 11)?

2001-01-22 Thread Paul Jakma
On Mon, 22 Jan 2001, Russell King wrote: > Evidence: I recently had a bad 128MB SDRAM which *always* failed at byte > address 0x220068, and X is likely to be the biggest process by far on a box, so statistically will be the process that hits this bad byte the most. no? regards, -- Paul Jakma

Re: Is this kernel related (signal 11)?

2001-01-22 Thread Russell King
Rogier Wolff writes: > Harware problems are normally not reproducable. Can you attach a > debugger to your X server, and catch it when things go bad? (And > give the Xfree86 people a backtrace) Bad RAM can be extremely reproducable though, and can certainly produce SEGVs. Evidence: I recently

Re: Is this kernel related (signal 11)?

2001-01-22 Thread Barry K. Nathan
Rainer Mager wrote: > particular problem still exists. In brief, X windows dies with signal 11. I [snip] Does it always happen when you are moving the mouse over a button or windowbar or some other on-screen object like that? Usually, when I have that happen, it's because I'm overclock

Re: Is this kernel related (signal 11)?

2001-01-22 Thread Barry K. Nathan
Rainer Mager wrote: particular problem still exists. In brief, X windows dies with signal 11. I [snip] Does it always happen when you are moving the mouse over a button or windowbar or some other on-screen object like that? Usually, when I have that happen, it's because I'm overclocking

Re: Is this kernel related (signal 11)?

2001-01-22 Thread Russell King
Rogier Wolff writes: Harware problems are normally not reproducable. Can you attach a debugger to your X server, and catch it when things go bad? (And give the Xfree86 people a backtrace) Bad RAM can be extremely reproducable though, and can certainly produce SEGVs. Evidence: I recently had

Re: Is this kernel related (signal 11)?

2001-01-22 Thread Paul Jakma
On Mon, 22 Jan 2001, Russell King wrote: Evidence: I recently had a bad 128MB SDRAM which *always* failed at byte address 0x220068, and X is likely to be the biggest process by far on a box, so statistically will be the process that hits this bad byte the most. no? regards, -- Paul Jakma

Re: oops, signal 11

2001-01-22 Thread Ralf Baechle
On Sat, Jan 20, 2001 at 01:46:50PM +0100, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I know that signal 11 with gcc is a sign of bad hardware; however it strikes me that I don't get random oopses - a whole bunch of them is appended. The compiler tends to hammer harder on the memory than the kernel

RE: Is this kernel related (signal 11)?

2001-01-21 Thread Rainer Mager
> Would this be an SMP IA32 box with glibc 2.2? I have two such boxen > showing exactly the same behaviour, although I can't reproduce it at will. Close, it is actually an SMP IA32 box with glibc 2.1.3. But you've now convinced me to not upgrade glibc yet ;-) --Rainer - To unsubscribe from

Re: Is this kernel related (signal 11)?

2001-01-21 Thread Rogier Wolff
Rainer Mager wrote: > that it is likely a hardware or kernel problem. So, my question is, > how can I pin point the problem? Is this likely to be a kernel > issue? No, not hardware. No not kernel. Harware problems are normally not reproducable. Can you attach a debugger to your X server, and

Re: Is this kernel related (signal 11)?

2001-01-21 Thread David Woodhouse
On Mon, 22 Jan 2001, Rainer Mager wrote: > I brought up this issue last month and had some response but as > of yet my particular problem still exists. In brief, X windows dies > with signal 11. I have done quite a bit of testing and this does not > seem to be a hardware is

Is this kernel related (signal 11)?

2001-01-21 Thread Rainer Mager
Hi all, I brought up this issue last month and had some response but as of yet my particular problem still exists. In brief, X windows dies with signal 11. I have done quite a bit of testing and this does not seem to be a hardware issue. Also, I have never managed to get a signal 11

Is this kernel related (signal 11)?

2001-01-21 Thread Rainer Mager
Hi all, I brought up this issue last month and had some response but as of yet my particular problem still exists. In brief, X windows dies with signal 11. I have done quite a bit of testing and this does not seem to be a hardware issue. Also, I have never managed to get a signal 11

Re: Is this kernel related (signal 11)?

2001-01-21 Thread David Woodhouse
On Mon, 22 Jan 2001, Rainer Mager wrote: I brought up this issue last month and had some response but as of yet my particular problem still exists. In brief, X windows dies with signal 11. I have done quite a bit of testing and this does not seem to be a hardware issue. Also, I have

Re: Is this kernel related (signal 11)?

2001-01-21 Thread Rogier Wolff
Rainer Mager wrote: that it is likely a hardware or kernel problem. So, my question is, how can I pin point the problem? Is this likely to be a kernel issue? No, not hardware. No not kernel. Harware problems are normally not reproducable. Can you attach a debugger to your X server, and

RE: Is this kernel related (signal 11)?

2001-01-21 Thread Rainer Mager
Would this be an SMP IA32 box with glibc 2.2? I have two such boxen showing exactly the same behaviour, although I can't reproduce it at will. Close, it is actually an SMP IA32 box with glibc 2.1.3. But you've now convinced me to not upgrade glibc yet ;-) --Rainer - To unsubscribe from this

oops, signal 11

2001-01-20 Thread mkloppstech
I know that signal 11 with gcc is a sign of bad hardware; however it strikes me that I don't get random oopses - a whole bunch of them is appended. I used 2.4.0 with alsa, kmp3player running and an endless loop compiling the kernel. Mirko Kloppstech ksymoops 2.3.7 on i686 2.4.0. Options

oops, signal 11

2001-01-20 Thread mkloppstech
I know that signal 11 with gcc is a sign of bad hardware; however it strikes me that I don't get random oopses - a whole bunch of them is appended. I used 2.4.0 with alsa, kmp3player running and an endless loop compiling the kernel. Mirko Kloppstech ksymoops 2.3.7 on i686 2.4.0. Options

Signal 11 - revisited

2000-12-17 Thread Rainer Mager
I was wondering if anyone had any new info/suggestions for the Signal 11 problem. I think I last reported that I had tried 2.4.0test12 w AGPGart and DRM turned off. This seemed a bit more stable but I did have X crash with Signall 11 after about 1.5 days. I'd really appreciate any advice on how

Signal 11 - revisited

2000-12-17 Thread Rainer Mager
I was wondering if anyone had any new info/suggestions for the Signal 11 problem. I think I last reported that I had tried 2.4.0test12 w AGPGart and DRM turned off. This seemed a bit more stable but I did have X crash with Signall 11 after about 1.5 days. I'd really appreciate any advice on how

Re: Signal 11

2000-12-15 Thread Dan Egli
On Thu, 14 Dec 2000, Linus Torvalds wrote: > Yes. > > And I realize that somebody inside RedHat really wanted to use a snapshot > in order to get some C++ code to compile right. > > But it at the same time threw C stability out the window, by using a > not-very-widely-tested snapshot for a

Re: Signal 11

2000-12-15 Thread Theodore Y. Ts'o
Date:Fri, 15 Dec 2000 01:09:29 + (GMT) From: Alan Cox <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > oWe tell vendors to build RPMv3 , glibc 2.1.x > Curious HOW do you tell vendors?? When they ask. More usefully Dan Quinlann and most vendors put together a recommended set of

Re: Signal 11

2000-12-15 Thread Theodore Y. Ts'o
Date:Fri, 15 Dec 2000 01:09:29 + (GMT) From: Alan Cox [EMAIL PROTECTED] oWe tell vendors to build RPMv3 , glibc 2.1.x Curious HOW do you tell vendors?? When they ask. More usefully Dan Quinlann and most vendors put together a recommended set of things to

Re: Signal 11

2000-12-14 Thread Alan Cox
> > o We tell vendors to build RPMv3 , glibc 2.1.x > Curious HOW do you tell vendors?? When they ask. More usefully Dan Quinlann and most vendors put together a recommended set of things to build with and use. It warns about library pitfalls, kernel changes and what packaging is supported. It

Re: Signal 11

2000-12-14 Thread Michael Peddemors
Sticking my nose where it doesn't belong... On Thu, 14 Dec 2000, Alan Cox wrote: > > Yes, but 2.96 is also binary incompatible with all non-redhat distro's. > > And since redhat is _the_ distro that commercial entities use to > > release software for, this was very arguably a bad move. > o

Re: Signal 11

2000-12-14 Thread Miquel van Smoorenburg
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Alan Cox <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> Yes, but 2.96 is also binary incompatible with all non-redhat distro's. >> And since redhat is _the_ distro that commercial entities use to >> release software for, this was very arguably a bad move. > >Except you

Re: Signal 11

2000-12-14 Thread Alan Cox
> Yes, but 2.96 is also binary incompatible with all non-redhat distro's. > And since redhat is _the_ distro that commercial entities use to > release software for, this was very arguably a bad move. Except you conveniently ignore a few facts o Someone else moved to 2.95 not RH . In fact

Re: Signal 11

2000-12-14 Thread lamont
] wrote: > On Thu, 7 Dec 2000, Jeff V. Merkey wrote: > > > It's related to some change in 2.4 vs. 2.2. There are other programs > > affected other than X, SSH also get's spurious signal 11's now and again > > with 2.4 and glibc <= 2.1 and it does not occur on 2.2. > &

Re: Signal 11

2000-12-14 Thread Miquel van Smoorenburg
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Bernhard Rosenkraenzer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >The same thing is true of *any* gcc release. >For example, C++-ABI wise, 2.95.x is incompatible BOTH with egcs 1.1.x >_and_ the upcoming 3.0 release. Yes, but 2.96 is also binary incompatible with all non-redhat

Re: Signal 11

2000-12-14 Thread Linus Torvalds
On Thu, 14 Dec 2000, Jakub Jelinek wrote: > On Thu, Dec 14, 2000 at 11:11:28AM -0800, Linus Torvalds wrote: > > user applications and (b) gcc-2.96 is so broken that it requires special > > libraries for C++ vtable chunks handling that is different, so the > > _working_ gcc can only be used

Re: Signal 11

2000-12-14 Thread Jakub Jelinek
On Thu, Dec 14, 2000 at 11:11:28AM -0800, Linus Torvalds wrote: > user applications and (b) gcc-2.96 is so broken that it requires special > libraries for C++ vtable chunks handling that is different, so the > _working_ gcc can only be used with programs that do not need such > library support.

Re: Signal 11

2000-12-14 Thread Alan Cox
> If you ask any gcc folks, the main reason they think this was a really > stupid thing to do was exactly that the 2.96 thing is incompatible BOTH > with the 2.95.x release _and_ the upcoming 3.0 release. And with egcs 1.1.2. So egcs is a different format to all others 2.95 is a

Re: Signal 11

2000-12-14 Thread Linus Torvalds
On Thu, 14 Dec 2000, Bernhard Rosenkraenzer wrote: > > > > gcc-2.95.2 is at least a real release, from a branch that is actively > > maintained > > Not very actively. > Please take the time to compare the activity in gcc_2_95_branch with the > patches in the current "2.96" version in rawhide.

Re: Signal 11

2000-12-14 Thread Bernhard Rosenkraenzer
On Thu, 14 Dec 2000, Linus Torvalds wrote: > If you ask any gcc folks, the main reason they think this was a really > stupid thing to do was exactly that the 2.96 thing is incompatible BOTH > with the 2.95.x release _and_ the upcoming 3.0 release. The same thing is true of *any* gcc release.

Re: Signal 11

2000-12-14 Thread Linus Torvalds
On Thu, 14 Dec 2000, Alan Cox wrote: > > > user applications and (b) gcc-2.96 is so broken that it requires special > > libraries for C++ vtable chunks handling that is different, so the > > Wrong - the C++ vtable format change is part of the intended progression of the > compiler and needed

Re: Signal 11

2000-12-14 Thread Jakub Jelinek
On Thu, Dec 14, 2000 at 04:42:03AM -0800, Clayton Weaver wrote: > There has a been a thread on the teTeX mailing list the last few days > about a (RedHat, but probably more general than just their rpms) > gcc-2.9.6 w/glibc-2.2.x bug. At -O2, it can miscompile > > unsigned varname; /* "unsigned

Re: Signal 11

2000-12-14 Thread Alan Cox
> I don't know why RH decided to do their idiotic gcc-2.96 release (it > certainly wasn't approved by any technical gcc people - the gcc people Every single patch in that release barring I believe 2 was accepted into the main tree. So they liked the code. The naming did upset people and was

Re: Signal 11

2000-12-14 Thread Linus Torvalds
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Clayton Weaver <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >There has a been a thread on the teTeX mailing list the last few days >about a (RedHat, but probably more general than just their rpms) >gcc-2.9.6 w/glibc-2.2.x bug. At -O2, it can miscompile Quite frankly, anybody

Re: Signal 11

2000-12-14 Thread Clayton Weaver
This is unrelated to the signal 11 problem, but something to consider for "random crashes and segfaults", ie are you using this compiler and glibc version combination. There has a been a thread on the teTeX mailing list the last few days about a (RedHat, but probably more general

Re: Signal 11

2000-12-14 Thread Clayton Weaver
This is unrelated to the signal 11 problem, but something to consider for "random crashes and segfaults", ie are you using this compiler and glibc version combination. There has a been a thread on the teTeX mailing list the last few days about a (RedHat, but probably more general

Re: Signal 11

2000-12-14 Thread Linus Torvalds
In article [EMAIL PROTECTED], Clayton Weaver [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: There has a been a thread on the teTeX mailing list the last few days about a (RedHat, but probably more general than just their rpms) gcc-2.9.6 w/glibc-2.2.x bug. At -O2, it can miscompile Quite frankly, anybody who uses

Re: Signal 11

2000-12-14 Thread Alan Cox
I don't know why RH decided to do their idiotic gcc-2.96 release (it certainly wasn't approved by any technical gcc people - the gcc people Every single patch in that release barring I believe 2 was accepted into the main tree. So they liked the code. The naming did upset people and was

Re: Signal 11

2000-12-14 Thread Linus Torvalds
On Thu, 14 Dec 2000, Alan Cox wrote: user applications and (b) gcc-2.96 is so broken that it requires special libraries for C++ vtable chunks handling that is different, so the Wrong - the C++ vtable format change is part of the intended progression of the compiler and needed to meet

Re: Signal 11

2000-12-14 Thread Jakub Jelinek
On Thu, Dec 14, 2000 at 04:42:03AM -0800, Clayton Weaver wrote: There has a been a thread on the teTeX mailing list the last few days about a (RedHat, but probably more general than just their rpms) gcc-2.9.6 w/glibc-2.2.x bug. At -O2, it can miscompile unsigned varname; /* "unsigned int

Re: Signal 11

2000-12-14 Thread Bernhard Rosenkraenzer
On Thu, 14 Dec 2000, Linus Torvalds wrote: If you ask any gcc folks, the main reason they think this was a really stupid thing to do was exactly that the 2.96 thing is incompatible BOTH with the 2.95.x release _and_ the upcoming 3.0 release. The same thing is true of *any* gcc release. For

Re: Signal 11

2000-12-14 Thread Alan Cox
If you ask any gcc folks, the main reason they think this was a really stupid thing to do was exactly that the 2.96 thing is incompatible BOTH with the 2.95.x release _and_ the upcoming 3.0 release. And with egcs 1.1.2. So egcs is a different format to all others 2.95 is a

Re: Signal 11

2000-12-14 Thread Jakub Jelinek
On Thu, Dec 14, 2000 at 11:11:28AM -0800, Linus Torvalds wrote: user applications and (b) gcc-2.96 is so broken that it requires special libraries for C++ vtable chunks handling that is different, so the _working_ gcc can only be used with programs that do not need such library support.

Re: Signal 11

2000-12-14 Thread Linus Torvalds
On Thu, 14 Dec 2000, Jakub Jelinek wrote: On Thu, Dec 14, 2000 at 11:11:28AM -0800, Linus Torvalds wrote: user applications and (b) gcc-2.96 is so broken that it requires special libraries for C++ vtable chunks handling that is different, so the _working_ gcc can only be used with

Re: Signal 11

2000-12-14 Thread Miquel van Smoorenburg
In article [EMAIL PROTECTED], Bernhard Rosenkraenzer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The same thing is true of *any* gcc release. For example, C++-ABI wise, 2.95.x is incompatible BOTH with egcs 1.1.x _and_ the upcoming 3.0 release. Yes, but 2.96 is also binary incompatible with all non-redhat

Re: Signal 11

2000-12-14 Thread lamont
] wrote: On Thu, 7 Dec 2000, Jeff V. Merkey wrote: It's related to some change in 2.4 vs. 2.2. There are other programs affected other than X, SSH also get's spurious signal 11's now and again with 2.4 and glibc = 2.1 and it does not occur on 2.2. AOL I've begun to get a bit paranoid

Re: Signal 11

2000-12-14 Thread Alan Cox
Yes, but 2.96 is also binary incompatible with all non-redhat distro's. And since redhat is _the_ distro that commercial entities use to release software for, this was very arguably a bad move. Except you conveniently ignore a few facts o Someone else moved to 2.95 not RH . In fact

Re: Signal 11

2000-12-14 Thread Miquel van Smoorenburg
In article [EMAIL PROTECTED], Alan Cox [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Yes, but 2.96 is also binary incompatible with all non-redhat distro's. And since redhat is _the_ distro that commercial entities use to release software for, this was very arguably a bad move. Except you conveniently ignore a

Re: Signal 11

2000-12-14 Thread Michael Peddemors
Sticking my nose where it doesn't belong... On Thu, 14 Dec 2000, Alan Cox wrote: Yes, but 2.96 is also binary incompatible with all non-redhat distro's. And since redhat is _the_ distro that commercial entities use to release software for, this was very arguably a bad move. o We tell

Re: Signal 11

2000-12-14 Thread Alan Cox
o We tell vendors to build RPMv3 , glibc 2.1.x Curious HOW do you tell vendors?? When they ask. More usefully Dan Quinlann and most vendors put together a recommended set of things to build with and use. It warns about library pitfalls, kernel changes and what packaging is supported. It is

Re: Signal 11 - the continuing saga

2000-12-13 Thread Mike Galbraith
On Wed, 13 Dec 2000, Linus Torvalds wrote: > On Wed, 13 Dec 2000, Linus Torvalds wrote: > > > > Hint: "ptep_mkdirty()". rather obvious oopsie.. once spotted. > In case you wonder why the bug was so insidious, what this caused was two > separate problems, both of them able to cause SIGSGV's.

Re: Signal 11 - the continuing saga

2000-12-13 Thread Mike Galbraith
On Wed, 13 Dec 2000, Linus Torvalds wrote: > On Wed, 13 Dec 2000, Mike Galbraith wrote: > > > > Not in my test tree. Same fault, and same trace leading up to it. no > > Ok. > > It definitely looks like a swapoff() problem. > > Have you ever seen the behaviour without running swapoff? No.

RE: Signal 11 - the continuing saga

2000-12-13 Thread Rainer Mager
a signal 11 again and will never, ever crash ;-) Finally, as soon as there is a patch, can other people who have seen this problem test it. My problem is so random that I'd need at least a few days to gain some confidence this is fixed. Thanks all. --Rainer > -Original Message- > From:

Re: Signal 11 - the continuing saga

2000-12-13 Thread Gérard Roudier
On Wed, 13 Dec 2000, Linus Torvalds wrote: > > > Ehh, I think I found it. > > Hint: "ptep_mkdirty()". > > Oops. > > I'll bet you $5 USD (and these days, that's about a gadzillion Euros) that Poor European Gérard as slim as 1.84 meter - 78 Kg these days. What about old days poor European

Re: Signal 11 - the continuing saga

2000-12-13 Thread Jeff V. Merkey
On Wed, Dec 13, 2000 at 11:35:57AM -0800, Linus Torvalds wrote: > > > Ehh, I think I found it. > > Hint: "ptep_mkdirty()". > > Oops. > > I'll bet you $5 USD (and these days, that's about a gadzillion Euros) that > this explains it. > > Linus Good. Sounds like you guys have a

Re: Signal 11 - the continuing saga

2000-12-13 Thread Linus Torvalds
On Wed, 13 Dec 2000, Linus Torvalds wrote: > > Hint: "ptep_mkdirty()". In case you wonder why the bug was so insidious, what this caused was two separate problems, both of them able to cause SIGSGV's. One: we didn't mark the page table entry dirty like we were supposed to. Two: by making

Re: Signal 11 - the continuing saga

2000-12-13 Thread Linus Torvalds
On Wed, 13 Dec 2000, Mike Galbraith wrote: > > Not in my test tree. Same fault, and same trace leading up to it. no Ok. It definitely looks like a swapoff() problem. Have you ever seen the behaviour without running swapoff? Also, can you re-create it without running swapon() (if it's

Re: Signal 11 - the continuing saga

2000-12-13 Thread Mike Galbraith
On Wed, 13 Dec 2000, Linus Torvalds wrote: > On Wed, 13 Dec 2000, Linus Torvalds wrote: > > > > Lookin gat "swapoff()", it could easily be something like > > > > - swapoff walks theough the processes, marking the pages dirty > >(correctly) > > - swapoff goes on to the next swap entry,

Re: Signal 11 - the continuing saga

2000-12-13 Thread Linus Torvalds
On Wed, 13 Dec 2000, Linus Torvalds wrote: > > Lookin gat "swapoff()", it could easily be something like > > - swapoff walks theough the processes, marking the pages dirty >(correctly) > - swapoff goes on to the next swap entry, and because it needs memory for >this, the VM layer

Re: Signal 11 - the continuing saga

2000-12-13 Thread Jeff V. Merkey
wing app. If I run my > >> script from an xterm (or gnome-terminal or whatever) then it starts up fine. > >> If, however, I try to launch it from my gnome taskbar's menu then it dies > >> with signal 11 (the Java log is available upon request). This seems to be > >&g

RE: Signal 11 - the continuing saga

2000-12-13 Thread Mike Galbraith
On Wed, 13 Dec 2000, Rainer Mager wrote: > Mike et al, > > I have no idea what IKD is and I don't know what to do with any results I > might find BUT I'd be happy to do this if it will help. Please pass on the > info with the instructions. Who should I report the results to? IKD is a

R: Signal 11 - the continuing saga

2000-12-13 Thread CMA
>> From: CMA [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] >> Did you already try to selectively disable L1 and L2 caches (if >> your box has both) and see what happens? > >Anyone know how to do this? If you own a p6 class machine (sorry but I didn't find your hw specs in previous messages) you should be able to

RE: Signal 11 - the continuing saga

2000-12-13 Thread Rainer Mager
Mike et al, I have no idea what IKD is and I don't know what to do with any results I might find BUT I'd be happy to do this if it will help. Please pass on the info with the instructions. Who should I report the results to? --Rainer > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Mike

RE: Signal 11 - the continuing saga

2000-12-13 Thread Rainer Mager
Give that man a cigarit was an env var (not LOCALE but LANG). I'd actually checked this but I didn't think that made a difference in my case. Thanks Linus, now can you fix the larger signal 11 problem? --Rainer > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Linus Torvalds > I'd

RE: Signal 11 - the continuing saga

2000-12-13 Thread Rainer Mager
Mike et al, I have no idea what IKD is and I don't know what to do with any results I might find BUT I'd be happy to do this if it will help. Please pass on the info with the instructions. Who should I report the results to? --Rainer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Mike

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