Re: CLUG web server changes

2006-07-19 Thread Zane Gilmore
Nick Rout wrote: On Thu, 20 Jul 2006 14:55:04 +1200 Steve Holdoway wrote: I think someone's pulling his plonker with these stats... an order of magnitude more hits from Mozilla than IE! Who's this referrer 'self'? Steve virtual onanism? OMG! cyber-ecclesiastical jokes! -- Zane Gilmore

RE: CLUG web server changes

2006-07-19 Thread Davidson, Brett (Managed Services)
Like Craig, I can't believe we're in the position to comment on his stats! > -Original Message- > From: Steve Holdoway [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Thursday, 20 July 2006 2:55 p.m. > To: linux-users@it.canterbury.ac.nz > Subject: Re: CLUG web server chang

Re: CLUG web server changes

2006-07-19 Thread Nick Rout
On Thu, 20 Jul 2006 14:55:04 +1200 Steve Holdoway wrote: > I think someone's pulling his plonker with these stats... an order of > magnitude more hits from Mozilla than IE! Who's this referrer 'self'? > > Steve virtual onanism? -- Nick Rout <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

Re: CLUG web server changes

2006-07-19 Thread Steve Holdoway
om: Don Gould [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Monday, 17 July 2006 10:56 p.m. > To: linux-users@it.canterbury.ac.nz > Subject: Re: CLUG web server changes > > > It's often interesting looking over stats... > > http://www.tcn.bowenvale.co.nz/stats/ - updates everyd

RE: CLUG web server changes

2006-07-19 Thread Craig FALCONER
Gould [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, 17 July 2006 10:56 p.m. To: linux-users@it.canterbury.ac.nz Subject: Re: CLUG web server changes It's often interesting looking over stats... http://www.tcn.bowenvale.co.nz/stats/ - updates everyday... Peter Harrison from NZOSS posted an ar

Re: CLUG web server changes

2006-07-19 Thread Nick Rout
On Wed, 19 Jul 2006 09:26:11 +0100 Jim Cheetham <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Wed, Jul 19, 2006 at 11:56:32AM +1200, Ben Devine wrote: > > To bring this back on topic. > > What is happening with the site Jim? > > Nothing is changing at the moment; a number of helpful offers have been > made, bu

Re: CLUG web server changes

2006-07-19 Thread Jim Cheetham
On Wed, Jul 19, 2006 at 11:56:32AM +1200, Ben Devine wrote: > To bring this back on topic. > What is happening with the site Jim? Nothing is changing at the moment; a number of helpful offers have been made, but remember that my deadline was during September; I have at least six weeks to look into

Re: CLUG web server changes [WOT]

2006-07-19 Thread Wesley Parish
On Tue, 18 Jul 2006 22:29, Steve Holdoway wrote: > On Tue, 18 Jul 2006 20:51:47 +1200 > > Christopher Sawtell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > On Tuesday 18 July 2006 13:23, Steve Holdoway wrote: > > > Don't you remember your CP/M? > > > > Earlier than that. PIP was implemented in O/S8 on the PDP-8,

Re: CLUG web server changes

2006-07-18 Thread Ben Devine
To bring this back on topic.What is happening with the site Jim?I can host the site(clug) on a server I have in Christchurch, Manchester Street to be exact.Reply off-list if you wish to discuss details.

Re: CLUG web server changes [WOT]

2006-07-18 Thread Steve Holdoway
On Tue, 18 Jul 2006 20:51:47 +1200 Christopher Sawtell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Tuesday 18 July 2006 13:23, Steve Holdoway wrote: > > Don't you remember your CP/M? > Earlier than that. PIP was implemented in O/S8 on the PDP-8, and > subsequently in RT-11 on the PDP-11. > > In later versio

Re: CLUG web server changes [WOT]

2006-07-18 Thread Christopher Sawtell
On Tuesday 18 July 2006 13:23, Steve Holdoway wrote: > Don't you remember your CP/M? Earlier than that. PIP was implemented in O/S8 on the PDP-8, and subsequently in RT-11 on the PDP-11. In later versions of RT-11 there was a COPY command which was a front-end to PIP http://en.wikipedia.org/wik

RE: CLUG web server changes

2006-07-17 Thread Maurice Butler
Many moons ago it was "peripheral interchange program" the copy command on cpm -Original Message- From: Nick Rout [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, 18 July 2006 11:29 a.m. To: linux-users@it.canterbury.ac.nz Subject: Re: CLUG web server changes On Tue, 18 Jul 200

Re: CLUG web server changes

2006-07-17 Thread Don Gould
Jim Cheetham wrote: However, I think we've already established that no-one here has enough interest or experience of clarke connect to be able to offer meaningful help. Agreed. I'm currently trying to learn enough about debian 3.1 so I can just replace cc. I've got a new server in place b

RE: CLUG web server changes

2006-07-17 Thread Davidson, Brett (Managed Services)
bandwidth management is the only answer here. Thankfully, Linux does this quite nicely. Brett. > -Original Message- > From: Jim Cheetham [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Tuesday, 18 July 2006 2:09 p.m. > To: linux-users@it.canterbury.ac.nz > Subject: Re: CLUG web server ch

Re: CLUG web server changes

2006-07-17 Thread Jim Cheetham
On Tue, Jul 18, 2006 at 01:30:02PM +1200, Don Gould wrote: > I was saying that people need to stop worrying about what google is up > to and just put in a bigger pipe. As the discussion is about hosting > then it's right no. It's not primarily a Linux-related issue, but people running servers a

Re: CLUG web server changes

2006-07-17 Thread Don Gould
ROFL! Following your rant about the fact I left out an e in my word, you then come back and rant about the fact that my Linux server dropped the word SPAM in the subject line because it thought the content was spam... My response to orginal message was on topic... I was saying that people ne

Re: CLUG web server changes [WOT]

2006-07-17 Thread Steve Holdoway
Don't you remember your CP/M? Peripheral Interchange Program Steve On Tue, 18 Jul 2006 11:59:33 +1200 Rex Johnston <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Nick Rout wrote: > > > I have two clues - my TV has PIP capacity, = picture in picture. > > Plastic Irrigation Pipe? > > http://en.wikipedia.org/wi

Re: [SPAM-Bowenvale] Re: CLUG web server changes

2006-07-17 Thread Nick Rout
Don, putting the tag "SPAM" in your subject line does not excuse a meaningless post. Or even two meaningless posts in a row. Can I remind people that this list is primarily about GNU/Linux and software that runs under GNU/Linux . Secondarily it covers general FLOSS issues and other free/open unix

[SPAM-Bowenvale] Re: CLUG web server changes

2006-07-17 Thread Don Gould
+e Nick Rout wrote: On Tue, 18 Jul 2006 11:18:18 +1200 Don Gould wrote: or just update the pip capacity until it's just not an issue anymore, remember it's also impacting on their systems. Cheers Don pardon my ignorance, what is the "pip capacity" -- Don Gould www.thinkdesignprint.co.n

Re: CLUG web server changes [WOT]

2006-07-17 Thread Rex Johnston
Nick Rout wrote: I have two clues - my TV has PIP capacity, = picture in picture. Plastic Irrigation Pipe? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PIP has a few interesting entries, none of which seem to to fit. I have a dog called Pip, and as a result of the little white hairs that appear on every it

Re: CLUG web server changes

2006-07-17 Thread Nick Rout
On Tue, 18 Jul 2006 11:40:04 +1200 Rex Johnston wrote: > Nick Rout wrote: > > On Tue, 18 Jul 2006 11:18:18 +1200 > > Don Gould wrote: > > > >> or just update the pip capacity until it's just not an issue anymore, > >> remember it's also impacting on their systems. > >> > >> Cheers Don > > > >

Re: CLUG web server changes

2006-07-17 Thread Volker Kuhlmann
> or just update the pip capacity until it's just not an issue anymore, > remember it's also impacting on their systems. pip what? And are you suggesting I take on google to see who has more bandwidth, and the pockets to pay for it? Fingers crossed my mental state doesn't evaporate that much bef

Re: CLUG web server changes

2006-07-17 Thread Rex Johnston
Nick Rout wrote: On Tue, 18 Jul 2006 11:18:18 +1200 Don Gould wrote: or just update the pip capacity until it's just not an issue anymore, remember it's also impacting on their systems. Cheers Don pardon my ignorance, what is the "pip capacity" Don't you know anything Nick? It's how big

Re: CLUG web server changes

2006-07-17 Thread Nick Rout
On Tue, 18 Jul 2006 11:18:18 +1200 Don Gould wrote: > or just update the pip capacity until it's just not an issue anymore, > remember it's also impacting on their systems. > > Cheers Don pardon my ignorance, what is the "pip capacity" -- Nick Rout <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

Re: CLUG web server changes

2006-07-17 Thread Don Gould
or just update the pip capacity until it's just not an issue anymore, remember it's also impacting on their systems. Cheers Don Volker Kuhlmann wrote: It's often interesting looking over stats... Not really, unless you have an actual need to do so. Either you need to monitor bandwidth (in whi

Re: CLUG web server changes

2006-07-17 Thread Volker Kuhlmann
> > It's often interesting looking over stats... > > Not really, unless you have an actual need to do so. Either you need to > monitor bandwidth (in which case you should be measuring from the > network, not from the app), or you are actively changing the design of > your sites to match the people

Re: CLUG web server changes

2006-07-17 Thread Jim Cheetham
On Mon, Jul 17, 2006 at 10:56:02PM +1200, Don Gould wrote: > It's often interesting looking over stats... Not really, unless you have an actual need to do so. Either you need to monitor bandwidth (in which case you should be measuring from the network, not from the app), or you are actively changi

Re: CLUG web server changes

2006-07-17 Thread Don Gould
It's often interesting looking over stats... http://www.tcn.bowenvale.co.nz/stats/ - updates everyday... Peter Harrison from NZOSS posted an article earlier about FF saying it was getting 14% now... If you look at my site you'll see that I get much higher than that, thou it's likly because i

Re: CLUG web server changes

2006-07-17 Thread Jim Cheetham
I've recently run the wiki web logs through awstats; please see:- http://clug.net.nz/stats/awstats.clug.2006.html http://clug.net.nz/stats/awstats.clug.2005.html http://clug.net.nz/stats/awstats.clug.2004.html Basically, current traffic usage is 60MB/month for people, and about 500Mb/month for ro

Re: CLUG web server changes

2006-07-15 Thread Ben Devine
--From: "Nick Rout" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>To: <linux-users@it.canterbury.ac.nz >Sent: Saturday, July 15, 2006 4:43 PMSubject: Re: CLUG web server changes> On Sat, 15 Jul 2006 16:12:09 +1200> Johnno <[EMAIL PROTECTED] > wrote:>> > What are you after ie.. what y

Re: CLUG web server changes

2006-07-15 Thread Johnno
Thats fine by me... just give me the word and I will one setup... I can also look after the DNS or you can do it your self... - Original Message - From: "Nick Rout" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Saturday, July 15, 2006 4:43 PM Subject: Re: CLUG web server changes

Re: CLUG web server changes

2006-07-14 Thread Jim Cheetham
On Sat, Jul 15, 2006 at 06:03:08PM +1200, Steve Holdoway wrote: > I worked out a method whereby you could proxy https to a different port > depending on virtual host name, which should allow multiple certificates. > Never tested it, tho' Test it, please! The basic problem with HTTPS is that the S

Re: CLUG web server changes

2006-07-14 Thread Hadley Rich
On Saturday 15 July 2006 18:01, Jim Cheetham wrote: > CLUG only needs a small webserver with PHP, suitable for the PHPwiki > software. No email. > > Basically it exists free of charge at the moment because I have a server > doing heaps of other things, and hosting the wiki was easy :-) > > It's ent

Re: CLUG web server changes

2006-07-14 Thread Don Gould
Jim Cheetham wrote: On Sat, Jul 15, 2006 at 04:17:03PM +1200, Don Gould wrote: Check out www.tcn.bowenvale.co.nz Pings are in the order of 220 ms It was hop-count that I was concerned about more than ping time. Your server is 17 hops away (my UK server is 19 at the moment), but admittedly ~9

Re: CLUG web server changes

2006-07-14 Thread Steve Holdoway
On Sat, 15 Jul 2006 06:44:43 +0100 Jim Cheetham <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Sat, Jul 15, 2006 at 04:01:34PM +1200, Steve Holdoway wrote: > > If it's low volume, I can host it here. However, it is a 128k ADSL line > > atm. It'll cost $20/month to up that to 512, and am willing to split the >

Re: CLUG web server changes

2006-07-14 Thread Jim Cheetham
On Sat, Jul 15, 2006 at 03:58:49PM +1200, Hadley Rich wrote: > On Saturday 15 July 2006 15:46, Jim Cheetham wrote: > What's the requirements? Just some basic web hosting with PHP/MySql. Do we > need to handle mail or anything else? CLUG only needs a small webserver with PHP, suitable for the PHPw

Re: CLUG web server changes

2006-07-14 Thread Jim Cheetham
On Sat, Jul 15, 2006 at 04:17:03PM +1200, Don Gould wrote: > Check out www.tcn.bowenvale.co.nz > Pings are in the order of 220 ms It was hop-count that I was concerned about more than ping time. Your server is 17 hops away (my UK server is 19 at the moment), but admittedly ~90ms closer. Thanks for

Re: CLUG web server changes

2006-07-14 Thread Jim Cheetham
On Sat, Jul 15, 2006 at 04:01:34PM +1200, Steve Holdoway wrote: > If it's low volume, I can host it here. However, it is a 128k ADSL line atm. > It'll cost $20/month to up that to 512, and am willing to split the cost with > CLUG if interested? ADSL solutions are generally single-IP, and therefo

Re: CLUG web server changes

2006-07-14 Thread Jim Cheetham
On Sat, Jul 15, 2006 at 04:12:09PM +1200, Johnno wrote: > What are you after ie.. what you want the web sever to do... For CLUG, just to host a wiki (as Nick says, PHPwiki). For my myriad other non-CLUG non-commercial stuff, it's easier to say just power and an IP address or two, to connect my ex

Re: CLUG web server changes

2006-07-14 Thread Nick Rout
sonal view of course. How easy id it to convert a site from phpwiki to mediawiki?) The mailing list is run by a server at the University of Canterbury. > - Original Message - > From: "Jim Cheetham" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: "Canterbury Linux Users"

Re: CLUG web server changes

2006-07-14 Thread Don Gould
Check out www.tcn.bowenvale.co.nz It's hosted out of sg. Pings are in the order of 220 ms I'm sure there wouldn't be problems with putting the wiki there if required. Cheers Don Jim Cheetham wrote: Some changes are having to come to the hosting of the CLUG wiki, although not of my choosing.

Re: CLUG web server changes

2006-07-14 Thread Johnno
sage - From: "Jim Cheetham" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Canterbury Linux Users" Sent: Saturday, July 15, 2006 3:46 PM Subject: CLUG web server changes > Some changes are having to come to the hosting of the CLUG wiki, > although not of my choosing. The compa

Re: CLUG web server changes

2006-07-14 Thread Steve Holdoway
On Sat, 15 Jul 2006 16:01:34 +1200 Steve Holdoway <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hi Jim, > > If it's low volume, I can host it here. However, it is a 128k ADSL line atm. > It'll cost $20/month to up that to 512, and am willing to split the cost with > CLUG if interested? > > All open source stuf

Re: CLUG web server changes

2006-07-14 Thread Steve Holdoway
Hi Jim, If it's low volume, I can host it here. However, it is a 128k ADSL line atm. It'll cost $20/month to up that to 512, and am willing to split the cost with CLUG if interested? All open source stuff, too (: Steve On Sat, 15 Jul 2006 04:46:14 +0100 Jim Cheetham <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

Re: CLUG web server changes

2006-07-14 Thread Hadley Rich
On Saturday 15 July 2006 15:46, Jim Cheetham wrote: > Some changes are having to come to the hosting of the CLUG wiki, > although not of my choosing. The company currently hosting the server > is rationalising it's operations ... basically we're being kicked out! > > This won't happen for a month

CLUG web server changes

2006-07-14 Thread Jim Cheetham
Some changes are having to come to the hosting of the CLUG wiki, although not of my choosing. The company currently hosting the server is rationalising it's operations ... basically we're being kicked out! This won't happen for a month or so, but I don't have any current plans for a replacement s