Re: Amazing rebuttal to MS open-source FUD

2002-05-13 Thread Zoki
On May 13 Andrew Mathews was heard saying: ->"Philip J. Koenig" wrote: ->> ->> I wish US officials had the clarity and perception of this guy. ->> ->> http://www.theregister.co.uk/content/4/25157.html *** They can not. Isn't there a saying which says "Do not byte the hand that feeds you"

AbiWord crashes when opened by user

2002-05-13 Thread Iraj Medifar
Hi all: I just upgraded abiword to abiword-1.0.1-SuSE.jeo.1 on my suse8 machine.There was no problem with the download or intallation of the rpm. However, after the upgrade, I can only open the application as root. It crashes immediately when I open it as user, giving a segmentation error. Would

Re: Amazing rebuttal to MS open-source FUD

2002-05-13 Thread Andrew Mathews
"Philip J. Koenig" wrote: > > The article below includes an amazing, although long, letter from a > Peruvian government official responding to the local Microsoft rep's > contention that the recent Peruvian government inclination to > standardize on open-source software will (to paraphrase) resul

Re: a crackpot idea i had

2002-05-13 Thread Collins
On Tue, 14 May 2002 11:38:34 +1000 Keith Antoine <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Monday 13 May 2002 14:02, Tony Alfrey wrote: > > On Sunday 12 May 2002 08:01 pm,dep wrote: > > > > > > > a modern distribution based on 2.4, with > > > everything simply updated to newer stuff. > > > > > > > > Isn't

Re: a crackpot idea i had

2002-05-13 Thread Keith Antoine
On Monday 13 May 2002 14:02, Tony Alfrey wrote: > On Sunday 12 May 2002 08:01 pm,dep wrote: > > > > a modern distribution based on 2.4, with > > everything simply updated to newer stuff. > > > > Isn't that what 3.1 was supposed to be? It was! but did not turn out that way. -- Keith Antoine (G

Re: a crackpot idea i had

2002-05-13 Thread Keith Antoine
On Monday 13 May 2002 13:01, dep wrote: > hey, gang! > > y'know what the world needs? yet another linux distribution! SNIP > anyway, the distributions have gone kind of haywire, off in all kinds > of goofy directions. so what i'm wondering is how difficult it would > be to put together a modern d

Re: RPM failed deps gone loopy

2002-05-13 Thread Net Llama!
That could very well be the problem. If so, its RedHat's fault, as all i've been doing is "rpm --rebuild " and then attempting to install the resulting RPM. Susan Macchia wrote: > Lonni, > > I've been writing a lot of k-shell scripts lately; to execute and assign the > value of an external "p

Re: a crackpot idea i had

2002-05-13 Thread Tim Wunder
On Monday 13 May 2002 08:27 pm, Kurt Wall wrote: > Scribbling feverishly on May 12, dep managed to emit: > > hey, gang! > > > > y'know what the world needs? yet another linux distribution! > > > so on. and fact is, the distro i want to be running is caldera 2.4 > > upgraded to the current century

Re: RPM failed deps gone loopy

2002-05-13 Thread Susan Macchia
Lonni, I've been writing a lot of k-shell scripts lately; to execute and assign the value of an external "program", you would say, for example: foo=$(cat foobar) Which is why I am replying... the LIST=$(... looks like this - could be some kind of syntax error somewhere or something. Just t

Re: Toast, Take 2

2002-05-13 Thread Collins
On Mon, 13 May 2002 17:40:05 -0600 "Bonez" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Having compiled a downloaded source for 2.4.18, I proceeded to > update my bzImage and System.map files in /boot. > > Since I am using GRUB as my bootloader, I went in and created a new > enter for the new 2.4.18 kernel, to t

Re: a crackpot idea i had

2002-05-13 Thread Federico Voges
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi, I've tried build 44 and 45 (this is a beta) on my notebook (Compaq Presario 1200) and it hangs when I insert the network card (3com X-Jack). Besides that, it looks very promising as a first distro for an Windoze ex-user, but not for the power us

Re: a crackpot idea i had

2002-05-13 Thread Richard R. Sivernell
On Mon, 13 May 2002 13:41:01 -0500 Jim Conner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Good idea Dennis! Here's my thoughts. Sorry for the length. > Do not forget the developer tools, java c++ stl( latest version ) perl python php etc. While a lot will want emacs, vi some of us want IDE's, of which I am s

Re: a crackpot idea i had

2002-05-13 Thread Kurt Wall
Scribbling feverishly on May 12, dep managed to emit: > hey, gang! > > y'know what the world needs? yet another linux distribution! And more reporters! ;-) > anyway, the distributions have gone kind of haywire, off in all kinds > of goofy directions. so what i'm wondering is how difficult it w

Re: Toast, Take 2

2002-05-13 Thread Net Llama!
Bonez wrote: > Having compiled a downloaded source for 2.4.18, I proceeded to update my > bzImage and System.map files in /boot. > > Since I am using GRUB as my bootloader, I went in and created a new enter > for the new 2.4.18 kernel, to try booting with it. > > Now, where I had sound, networki

Re: Toast, Take 2

2002-05-13 Thread Bill Campbell
On Mon, May 13, 2002 at 05:40:05PM -0600, Bonez wrote: >Having compiled a downloaded source for 2.4.18, I proceeded to update my >bzImage and System.map files in /boot. >Since I am using GRUB as my bootloader, I went in and created a new enter >for the new 2.4.18 kernel, to try booting with it. >

Toast, Take 2

2002-05-13 Thread Bonez
Having compiled a downloaded source for 2.4.18, I proceeded to update my bzImage and System.map files in /boot. Since I am using GRUB as my bootloader, I went in and created a new enter for the new 2.4.18 kernel, to try booting with it. Now, where I had sound, networking to the internet, email,

Re: a crackpot idea i had

2002-05-13 Thread Richard R. Sivernell
On Mon, 13 May 2002 16:03:05 -0500 "David A. Bandel" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Mon, 13 May 2002 07:16:55 -0700 (PDT) > begin Keith Morse <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> spewed forth: > > > On Mon, 13 May 2002, David A. Bandel wrote: > > > > > Well, I have my distro, "Chiriqui Linux", based somewhat

Re: a crackpot idea i had

2002-05-13 Thread Collins
On Mon, 13 May 2002 10:22:32 -0500 "R. Quenett"<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > from Collins: > > " Done deal. I'll be silent. > > I hope you'll continue to speak up. > > While I agree generally with the criticisms aimed at some of your > comments (which criticisms seem to have provoked your abov

Re: a crackpot idea i had

2002-05-13 Thread David A. Bandel
On Mon, 13 May 2002 07:16:55 -0700 (PDT) begin Keith Morse <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> spewed forth: > On Mon, 13 May 2002, David A. Bandel wrote: > > > Well, I have my distro, "Chiriqui Linux", based somewhat loosely on > > LFS(Linux From Scratch). I keep it small so I can boot and run off a > > CD(e

RPM failed deps gone loopy

2002-05-13 Thread Net Llama!
I'm in the process of rebuilding the RH-7.3 SRPMs, and then installing them. I'm starting to see some very very weird stuff, for failed dependencies: CXXFLAGS is needed by libsigc++-devel-1.0.3-5 LIST=$(shell is needed by libsigc++-devel-1.0.3-5 No, neither is a typo , that's exactly how

RE: Funny stuff!

2002-05-13 Thread Condon Thomas A KPWA
> >Re the Gatwick and Heathrow shots, just be glad there are > none showing > >the BSOD in an AirBus cockpit. > > Damn! That's scarey! And I thought the French were not using the > Windows virus. > > While Boeing's pretty committed to Micro$oft (perhaps the move to > Chicago will help them s

Re: a crackpot idea i had

2002-05-13 Thread Jim Conner
Good idea Dennis! Here's my thoughts. Sorry for the length. Well, I started with OL2.3(for a month or so) and went to eD2.4, I'm now running a modified version of W3.1. There were quite a few things I liked about eD2.4 and some I didn't, especially after it got very dated. I've noticed tha

Re: [ltp] PCMCIA Compact Flash Cards ??

2002-05-13 Thread Robert Hajime Lanning
Also, the PCMCIA IDE is a seperate IDE controler (on the PCMCIA card). So, IDE0 is hda and hdb, IDE1 (usualy swap bays) is hdc and hdd, and the PCMCIA card will be IDE2 as hde and hdf. Bert is right, you need to watch your logs for where the device shows up. As written by Bert Haskins: [sni

Re: [ltp] PCMCIA Compact Flash Cards ??

2002-05-13 Thread Bert Haskins
"J.J.Green" wrote: > Hi > > > I am wondering, well hoping actually that someone can lead me to where I > > can find out how to make a PCMCIA compact flash card work with a Linux > > laptop (Red Hat 7.2) I've had great luck with this on several different Thinkpads. I can't take credit for it, g

Re: a crackpot idea i had

2002-05-13 Thread R. Quenett
from Collins: " Done deal. I'll be silent. I hope you'll continue to speak up. While I agree generally with the criticisms aimed at some of your comments (which criticisms seem to have provoked your above remark), the gentleman who made those criticisms has a delete key, as do I. In free di

Re: Not a clue about backup

2002-05-13 Thread Net Llama!
Someone really needs to introduce the folks at Netraverse to the amazing concept of 'patch'. Then they wouldn't need to tell people to start copying 60MB of source code to their ~ when a simple "patch -R" would fix any bad voodoo that occured as a result of their screwed up patch sets. On Mon, 1

Re: a crackpot idea i had

2002-05-13 Thread Keith Morse
On Mon, 13 May 2002, David A. Bandel wrote: > Well, I have my distro, "Chiriqui Linux", based somewhat loosely on LFS > (Linux From Scratch). I keep it small so I can boot and run off a CD > (even run without a hard disk), but it has X 4.2.0 and a whole bunch of > other things I use a lot. I us

Re: a crackpot idea i had

2002-05-13 Thread Leon A. Goldstein
Collins Richey wrote inter alia: > > [ snips ] > > On Sun, 12 May 2002 23:01:57 -0400 dep wrote: > > hey, gang! > > > > y'know what the world needs? yet another linux distribution! > > > > > i put forth the opinion that caldera edesktop was for its time the > > best linux distribution from anyone

Re: Funny stuff!

2002-05-13 Thread Bill Campbell
On Mon, May 13, 2002 at 09:19:17AM +0200, Roger Oberholtzer wrote: ... >Re the Gatwick and Heathrow shots, just be glad there are none showing >the BSOD in an AirBus cockpit. Damn! That's scarey! And I thought the French were not using the Windows virus. While Boeing's pretty committed to Micr

Re: a crackpot idea i had

2002-05-13 Thread Collins
On Mon, 13 May 2002 08:08:13 -0400 Bruce Marshall <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Monday 13 May 2002 0:34 am, Collins wrote: > > Dep, > > > > Not that I want to pee on your cornflakes, but you must be smoking > > pretty good weed to come up with that idea! > > > > What you want is gentoo - onetime

Re: a crackpot idea i had

2002-05-13 Thread Collins
On Mon, 13 May 2002 07:01:48 -0500 "David A. Bandel" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Sun, 12 May 2002 23:01:57 -0400 > begin dep <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> spewed forth: > > > hey, gang! > > > > y'know what the world needs? yet another linux distribution! > > > > now, i admit that you might attribute

Re: a crackpot idea i had

2002-05-13 Thread Bruce Marshall
On Monday 13 May 2002 0:34 am, Collins wrote: > Dep, > > Not that I want to pee on your cornflakes, but you must be smoking > pretty good weed to come up with that idea! > > What you want is gentoo - onetime pain (compiles, compiles), lifetime > gain. gentoo is (mostly) LSB compatible, very curre

Re: a crackpot idea i had

2002-05-13 Thread Collins
[ snips ] On Mon, 13 May 2002 07:19:36 -0400 dep <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > begin Collins's quote: > > | What you want is gentoo - onetime pain (compiles, compiles), > | lifetime gain. gentoo is (mostly) LSB compatible, very current > | (or even bleeding edge, if you choose), and it only t

Re: a crackpot idea i had

2002-05-13 Thread David A. Bandel
On Sun, 12 May 2002 23:01:57 -0400 begin dep <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> spewed forth: > hey, gang! > > y'know what the world needs? yet another linux distribution! > > now, i admit that you might attribute this notion to the fact that i'm > on some pretty fearsomely effective painkillers at the mome

Amazing rebuttal to MS open-source FUD

2002-05-13 Thread Philip J. Koenig
The article below includes an amazing, although long, letter from a Peruvian government official responding to the local Microsoft rep's contention that the recent Peruvian government inclination to standardize on open-source software will (to paraphrase) result in the demise of the software

Re: a crackpot idea i had

2002-05-13 Thread dep
begin Collins's quote: | Not that I want to pee on your cornflakes, but you must be smoking | pretty good weed to come up with that idea! um, those aren't *my* cornflakes. so somebody is going to be surprised. | What you want is gentoo - onetime pain (compiles, compiles), | lifetime gain. g

Re: [ltp] PCMCIA Compact Flash Cards ??

2002-05-13 Thread J.J.Green
Hi > I am wondering, well hoping actually that someone can lead me to where I > can find out how to make a PCMCIA compact flash card work with a Linux > laptop (Red Hat 7.2) It should behave like a scsi disk -- just add a line like /dev/sda1 /media/cf auto rw,user,noauto 0 0 to your fstab.

Re: a crackpot idea i had

2002-05-13 Thread dep
begin Tony Alfrey's quote: | On Sunday 12 May 2002 08:01 pm,dep wrote: | | | > a modern distribution based on 2.4, with | > everything simply updated to newer stuff. | | | | Isn't that what 3.1 was supposed to be? yes. i believe the crucial word here is "supposed." for instance, my 2.4 came

Re: can you update your submission?

2002-05-13 Thread m.w.chang
speaking of apache, anyone attempted using apache toolbox to build apache 2? is it really easier? Douglas J Hunley wrote: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- >>Dave Bandel - Apache 1.3.12 with Frontpage example >>http://linux-sxs.org/apachefp.html >>Bill Parker - APACHE 1.3.20 >>http://linux-s

Re: Funny stuff!

2002-05-13 Thread Roger Oberholtzer
On Sun, 12 May 2002 22:47:27 -0700 Bill Campbell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Sun, May 12, 2002 at 10:37:44PM -0600, Collins wrote: > >On Sun, 12 May 2002 22:25:33 -0600 Tyler Regas <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >wrote: > >> modules > > > >ROTFLMAO - this is Windows to the core! > > Check out http://