Re: What's after OpenLinux?

2003-03-16 Thread Roger Oberholtzer
On Sat, 15 Mar 2003 19:48:15 -0700 Collins Richey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Welcome to the dark side! grin Darkness before the dawn. -- ++···+ · Roger Oberholtzer · E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]· · OPQ Systems AB

Re: What's after OpenLinux?

2003-03-15 Thread Jerry McBride
On Fri, 07 Mar 2003 17:49:52 -0500 Jerry McBride [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Well, it looks like I'll be spending some effort to swap out some OpenLinux boxes pretty soon. Principles you know... Can someone tell me, which of the various distributions are closest to OpenLinux in as far as

Re: What's after OpenLinux?

2003-03-15 Thread Collins Richey
On Sat, 15 Mar 2003 21:04:00 -0500 Jerry McBride [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Fri, 07 Mar 2003 17:49:52 -0500 Jerry McBride [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Well, it looks like I'll be spending some effort to swap out some OpenLinux boxes pretty soon. Principles you know... Can someone tell

Re: What's after OpenLinux?

2003-03-10 Thread Roger Oberholtzer
On Sun, 9 Mar 2003 17:08:09 -0700 Collins Richey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Sun, 9 Mar 2003 10:29:25 +0100 Roger Oberholtzer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Sat, 8 Mar 2003 15:20:59 -0700 Collins Richey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm surprised that no one has done it yet. It would not

Re: What's after OpenLinux?

2003-03-09 Thread Roger Oberholtzer
On Sat, 8 Mar 2003 15:20:59 -0700 Collins Richey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm surprised that no one has done it yet. It would not be a matter of rocket science to distribute a gentoo based distribution from one or more (different architecture) base home system. Creating binary update

Re: What's after OpenLinux?

2003-03-09 Thread Roger Oberholtzer
On Sat, 8 Mar 2003 20:33:28 -0800 Bill Campbell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Sat, Mar 08, 2003 at 05:11:23PM -0800, Ted Ozolins wrote: Oh I think there are a lot of refugees from the rpm farm on this list:) I left rpm behind a while back, been using mainly Slackware and of course that

Re: What's after OpenLinux?

2003-03-09 Thread Ken Moffat
Roger Oberholtzer wrote: The problem is that RPM limits itself to the package in question. emerge takes the next step and defines the relationship between packages. And, instead of just stopping and saying something is missing so bugger off and sort that out and don't return until you do, as rpm

Re: What's after OpenLinux?

2003-03-09 Thread Roger Oberholtzer
On Sun, 09 Mar 2003 07:29:39 -0800 Ken Moffat [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Roger Oberholtzer wrote: The problem is that RPM limits itself to the package in question. emerge takes the next step and defines the relationship between packages. And, instead of just stopping and saying

Re: What's after OpenLinux?

2003-03-09 Thread Bill Campbell
On Sun, Mar 09, 2003 at 10:37:52AM +0100, Roger Oberholtzer wrote: .. The problem is that RPM limits itself to the package in question. emerge takes the next step and defines the relationship between packages. And, instead of just stopping and saying something is missing so bugger off and sort

Re: What's after OpenLinux?

2003-03-09 Thread Collins Richey
On Sun, 9 Mar 2003 10:29:25 +0100 Roger Oberholtzer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Sat, 8 Mar 2003 15:20:59 -0700 Collins Richey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm surprised that no one has done it yet. It would not be a matter of rocket science to distribute a gentoo based distribution from one

Re: What's after OpenLinux?

2003-03-08 Thread Collins Richey
On Fri, 7 Mar 2003 22:57:43 -0800 Bill Campbell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Fri, Mar 07, 2003 at 05:49:52PM -0500, Jerry McBride wrote: Well, it looks like I'll be spending some effort to swap out some OpenLinux boxes pretty soon. Principles you know... Can someone tell me, which of the

Re: What's after OpenLinux?

2003-03-08 Thread dep
begin Collins Richey's quote: | They've finally caught up with gentoo grin they're a pain in the ass, but they're not *that* bad. -- dep http://www.linuxandmain.com -- outside the box, barely within the envelope, and no animated paperclip anywhere.

Re: What's after OpenLinux?

2003-03-08 Thread Collins Richey
On Sat, 8 Mar 2003 10:02:50 -0500 dep [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: begin Collins Richey's quote: | They've finally caught up with gentoo grin they're a pain in the ass, but they're not *that* bad. Filing away in my almost humor folder. -- Collins

Re: What's after OpenLinux?

2003-03-08 Thread Bill Campbell
On Sat, Mar 08, 2003 at 10:02:50AM -0500, dep wrote: begin Collins Richey's quote: | They've finally caught up with gentoo grin they're a pain in the ass, but they're not *that* bad. I haven't tried gentoo, LFS, or any of the other do-it-yourself forms of Linux, primarily because I would

Re: What's after OpenLinux?

2003-03-08 Thread Roger Oberholtzer
On Sat, 8 Mar 2003 07:54:24 -0700 Collins Richey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Fri, 7 Mar 2003 22:57:43 -0800 Bill Campbell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Fri, Mar 07, 2003 at 05:49:52PM -0500, Jerry McBride wrote: Well, it looks like I'll be spending some effort to swap out some

Re: What's after OpenLinux?

2003-03-08 Thread Roger Oberholtzer
On Sat, 8 Mar 2003 10:09:12 -0800 Bill Campbell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Sat, Mar 08, 2003 at 10:02:50AM -0500, dep wrote: begin Collins Richey's quote: | They've finally caught up with gentoo grin they're a pain in the ass, but they're not *that* bad. I haven't tried gentoo, LFS,

Re: What's after OpenLinux?

2003-03-08 Thread Collins Richey
On Sat, 8 Mar 2003 10:09:12 -0800 Bill Campbell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Sat, Mar 08, 2003 at 10:02:50AM -0500, dep wrote: begin Collins Richey's quote: | They've finally caught up with gentoo grin they're a pain in the ass, but they're not *that* bad. I haven't tried gentoo, LFS,

Re: What's after OpenLinux?

2003-03-08 Thread Brett I. Holcomb
Roger Oberholtzer wrote: On Sat, 8 Mar 2003 10:09:12 -0800 Bill Campbell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Sat, Mar 08, 2003 at 10:02:50AM -0500, dep wrote: begin Collins Richey's quote: But that is exactly what gentoo is! It is very stable. Packages are deemed stable or experimental by the

Re: What's after OpenLinux?

2003-03-08 Thread Collins Richey
[ snips ] On Sat, 8 Mar 2003 21:13:25 +0100 Roger Oberholtzer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Sat, 8 Mar 2003 07:54:24 -0700 Collins Richey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Fri, 7 Mar 2003 22:57:43 -0800 Bill Campbell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Fri, Mar 07, 2003 at 05:49:52PM -0500, Jerry

Re: What's after OpenLinux?

2003-03-08 Thread Collins Richey
On Sat, 08 Mar 2003 16:14:22 -0500 Brett I. Holcomb [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Roger Oberholtzer wrote: On Sat, 8 Mar 2003 10:09:12 -0800 Bill Campbell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Sat, Mar 08, 2003 at 10:02:50AM -0500, dep wrote: begin Collins Richey's quote: But that is exactly

Re: What's after OpenLinux?

2003-03-08 Thread Kurt Wall
Feigning erudition, Collins Richey wrote: % On Sat, 08 Mar 2003 16:14:22 -0500 % Brett I. Holcomb [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: % % Yes! I am so glad never to see RPM - I just emerge sync, emerge -up world % and I see what I need to do. I've been using Gentoo for a couple of months % % God, I

Re: What's after OpenLinux?

2003-03-08 Thread Brett I. Holcomb
At least we'll be running Gentoo G. And I'm not sure it can't be setup for distribution as you pointed out. Collins Richey wrote: On Sat, 08 Mar 2003 16:14:22 -0500 Brett I. Holcomb [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Roger Oberholtzer wrote: On Sat, 8 Mar 2003 10:09:12 -0800 Bill Campbell

Re: What's after OpenLinux?

2003-03-08 Thread Bruce Marshall
On Saturday 08 March 2003 17:29 pm, Collins Richey wrote: Yes! I am so glad never to see RPM - I just emerge sync, emerge -up world and I see what I need to do. I've been using Gentoo for a couple of months God, I wish I'd said that! Wait a minute, I did say that. You better watch it,

Re: What's after OpenLinux?

2003-03-08 Thread Brett I. Holcomb
Plonk away! I'm happy with Gentoo - finally a distro I don't have to spend more time updating and searching for dependencies than using it G. Bruce Marshall wrote: On Saturday 08 March 2003 17:29 pm, Collins Richey wrote: Yes! I am so glad never to see RPM - I just emerge sync, emerge -up

Re: What's after OpenLinux?

2003-03-08 Thread Ted Ozolins
Collins Richey wrote: Yes! I am so glad never to see RPM - I just emerge sync, emerge -up world and I see what I need to do. I've been using Gentoo for a couple of months God, I wish I'd said that! Wait a minute, I did say that. You better watch it, Brett. They'll put you in the same

Re: What's after OpenLinux?

2003-03-08 Thread Bill Campbell
On Sat, Mar 08, 2003 at 05:11:23PM -0800, Ted Ozolins wrote: Oh I think there are a lot of refugees from the rpm farm on this list:) I left rpm behind a while back, been using mainly Slackware and of course that build_it_yourself_unmentionable_G oops I almost said it distro. What I enjoy with

Re: What's after OpenLinux?

2003-03-08 Thread Net Llama!
On 03/08/03 20:33, Bill Campbell wrote: I read about the OpenPKG system in SysAdmin magazine late last year. It's an RPM based system developed by Cable and Wireless in Europe to help them maintain a large number of heterogeneous Unix and Linux systems for their ISP operations. Isn't CW the same

Re: What's after OpenLinux?

2003-03-08 Thread Bill Campbell
On Sat, Mar 08, 2003 at 10:15:33PM -0800, Net Llama! wrote: On 03/08/03 20:33, Bill Campbell wrote: I read about the OpenPKG system in SysAdmin magazine late last year. It's an RPM based system developed by Cable and Wireless in Europe to help them maintain a large number of heterogeneous Unix

What's after OpenLinux?

2003-03-07 Thread Jerry McBride
Well, it looks like I'll be spending some effort to swap out some OpenLinux boxes pretty soon. Principles you know... Can someone tell me, which of the various distributions are closest to OpenLinux in as far as directory locations and system V startup scripts? --

Re: What's after OpenLinux?

2003-03-07 Thread Federico Voges
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Fri, 07 Mar 2003 17:49:52 -0500, Jerry McBride wrote: Well, it looks like I'll be spending some effort to swap out some OpenLinux boxes pretty soon. Principles you know... Can someone tell me, which of the various distributions are closest to

Re: What's after OpenLinux?

2003-03-07 Thread Chong Yu Meng
Jerry McBride wrote: Well, it looks like I'll be spending some effort to swap out some OpenLinux boxes pretty soon. Principles you know... Can someone tell me, which of the various distributions are closest to OpenLinux in as far as directory locations and system V startup scripts? I found

Re: What's after OpenLinux?

2003-03-07 Thread Kurt Wall
Feigning erudition, Jerry McBride wrote: % % Well, it looks like I'll be spending some effort to swap out some OpenLinux % boxes pretty soon. Principles you know... % % Can someone tell me, which of the various distributions are closest to OpenLinux % in as far as directory locations and system

Re: What's after OpenLinux?

2003-03-07 Thread Shawn Tayler
On Fri, 07 Mar 2003 17:49:52 -0500 Jerry McBride [EMAIL PROTECTED] professed: Can someone tell me, which of the various distributions are closest to OpenLinux in as far as directory locations and system V startup scripts? Jerry, I went to Slackware from Open Linux and haven't looked back.

Re: What's after OpenLinux?

2003-03-07 Thread Bill Campbell
On Fri, Mar 07, 2003 at 05:49:52PM -0500, Jerry McBride wrote: Well, it looks like I'll be spending some effort to swap out some OpenLinux boxes pretty soon. Principles you know... Can someone tell me, which of the various distributions are closest to OpenLinux in as far as directory locations