Re: Web Creation Tool

2002-02-13 Thread Michael Hipp
Thanks, Aaron & Bill. Just noticed I already have Quanta on my system (didn't know what it was). I'll give it a try. Michael Bill Day pontificated eloquently: > Any text editor is good. But Quanta is really nice. Not quite > comparable to Dreamweaver but nice. There is Bluefish as well. N

Web Creation Tool

2002-02-13 Thread Michael Hipp
What's a good web creation tool for Linux? Something comparable to Dreamweaver in Win. Thanks, -- Michael R. Hipp Microsoft Windows XP: Just say no. ___ Linux-users mailing list - http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users Subscribe/Unsubscribe info

Re: Response of BT to my message...

2002-02-13 Thread Michael Hipp
I'm thinking about getting a patent on moving electrons around in a conductive material. Zoran pontificated eloquently: > Today Condon Thomas A KPWA was heard saying: > > ->> -Original Message- > ->> From: Zoran [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > ->> > ->> BT now have a new and exciting self-h

Re: Ammunition

2002-02-13 Thread Michael Hipp
your running and the browser you're using. Based on that > >> it makes a recommendation on which version to install. M$ used to do > >> that but I believe they stopped doing it after they caught alot of > >> flack. Netscape's probe is benign enough for a legita

Re: Comcast mail

2002-02-13 Thread Michael Hipp
That has been one of the pleasant surprises of my mailbank acct - almost no spam after having the same addr for 5+ years. Compare that to the ISP addr I have at swbell.net (began receiving spam immediately) or (gasp!) yahoo or hotmail (both are spam magnets). Bill Campbell pontificated eloquen

Re: Comcast mail

2002-02-12 Thread Michael Hipp
Joel Hammer pontificated eloquently: > How is this different from a thing like Register.com? Register.com > seems to provide similar sames services, and for the same price ($36.00 > per year). Not real familiar with Register.com, but ultimately it looks about the same. Only diff is that R.com yo

Re: Reading Documents with Various editors

2002-02-12 Thread Michael Hipp
Good summary, Joel. Do you have a copy of OpenOffice handy to try also? Joel Hammer pontificated eloquently: > We got at memo a work today, a 300 word memo in Word that was 45 KB > long. It has a small corporate logo on it. I decided to experiment. > Using Word97, I saved it in four formats, DOC

Ammunition

2002-02-12 Thread Michael Hipp
In case you need ammo to convince folks not to buy MS, this is worth a read: 'Check the fine print' http://www.infoworld.com/articles/op/xml/02/02/11/020211opfoster.xml -- Michael R. Hipp Microsoft Windows XP: Just say no. ___ Linux-users mailing list

Re: Comcast mail

2002-02-12 Thread Michael Hipp
Bill, FWIW, I have for years now been using the services of www.mailbank.com. For $10US per year I get an email addr that is pop accessible, isn't dependent on my ISP (which has changed 5 times in the interim), provides me with an SMTP server, and has lots of addresses covering lots of names,

7 copies of nscd?

2002-02-10 Thread Michael Hipp
Is it normal to have 7 copies of nscd (name service cache daemon) running at all times? ps -aux USER PID %CPU %MEM VSZ RSS TTY STAT START TIME COMMAND [snip] nscd 791 0.0 0.3 11952 956 ?S18:57 0:00 nscd nscd 792 0.0 0.3 11952 956 ?S18:5

Re: Configuring KDE Redhat 7.1 without reinstalling

2002-02-08 Thread Michael Hipp
At risk of stating the obvious, this is why I always keep several copies of working XF86Config files stored in all kinds of places. Being able to get X up in even a limited fashion can make any day brighter. Michael Hipp, CGW (Certified GUI Weenie - kinda like an MSCE only with fewer

Re: Disk Activity

2002-02-08 Thread Michael Hipp
t > crontab or system crontab. I think a number of distros use it, to get > rid of unused modules, but, it causes more pain than it is worth in > some situations. > > Are there any other logs you could peek into? httpd, secure, and so on. > > Joel > > On Fri, Feb 08, 200

Re: Disk Activity (Bingo!)

2002-02-08 Thread Michael Hipp
Using KDE Control Center -> System -> Services, I started stopping services one-at-a-time. The culprit is the USB Hot Plug Daemon. Is this the same as 'hotpluguid'? It seems to still be loaded in memory but no longer coming to the top of top. ps -aux | grep uid: michael 1118 0.0 2.9 16412

Re: Disk Activity

2002-02-08 Thread Michael Hipp
Good thought. Looks like I'm getting these at 5 min intervals, but nothing approaching every sec. Feb 8 21:20:01 linux crond[1846]: (root) CMD (/sbin/rmmod -a) Feb 8 21:25:01 linux crond[1848]: (root) CMD (/sbin/rmmod -a) Feb 8 21:30:01 linux crond[1863]: (root) CMD (/sbin/rmmod -a) Feb 8 2

Re: Disk Activity

2002-02-08 Thread Michael Hipp
The drives have been in this config since I built the machine (< 1 month ago). The activity stops if I log out to the KDE login panel. Or if I get out of X altogether. dep pontificated eloquently: > begin Michael Hipp's quote: > | Unplugging the 2nd hard drive would take some work as that's w

Re: USB Printers and COL 3.1.1 (Workstation)

2002-02-08 Thread Michael Hipp
This might be a good addition to the SxS. Federico Voges pontificated eloquently: > Hi, > > Just one bit of advice for those trying to use an USB printer with COL > 3.1.1 > > add "printer" to /etc/modules/default > or modprobe printer > > Otherwise, it won't be recognized. At least, that happened

Re: Disk Activity

2002-02-08 Thread Michael Hipp
I unmounted the ReiserFS and vfat partitions. Disk activity continues. Setting 'top' to 0.1 second updates seems to show kdeinit, X, init, keventd, and maybe hotpluguid as the most active. But it's really hard to tell. Interesting that hotpluguid seems to jump from way down on list to very top

Re: Disk Activity

2002-02-08 Thread Michael Hipp
New mobo (P4 1.7 GHz, 256M, 845 Intel chipset w/DDR memory, 2 IDE hds on chan #0). Ext2 filesystem, tho I have an Elx partition mounted that is ReiserFS and also a vfat Win partition. Not sure what you're asking specifically about swap but 'free' says: total used free

Disk Activity

2002-02-08 Thread Michael Hipp
Something is continually strobing my hard disk about 1/second all the time I'm logged into KDE. Seems excessive. Is this "normal"? How could I track down which process is doing it? Thanks. -- Michael R. Hipp "The more corrupt the State the more numerous the laws." -Roman historian Cornelius Ta

Re: Printing question

2002-02-07 Thread Michael Hipp
Same for me. CUPS works great. Michael Keith Antoine pontificated eloquently: > On Thursday 07 February 2002 08:39 pm, Collins warbled: > > Is the following action > > > > a) typical of unix printing in general > > b) typical of cups > > c) typical of ghostscript interpreting ps for a laserjet >

Re: new ibm ad

2002-02-07 Thread Michael Hipp
These things remind why I always admired IBM (even when I despised them) - they're one of the few companies that will build stuff like this just to see if they can. RIP: private sector R&D. Michael dep pontificated eloquently: [snip] > hey -- you see *this*? > > http://www.computerworld.com/st

Re: Where to get libstdc++-libc6.1-2.so.3

2002-02-06 Thread Michael Hipp
On Wednesday 06 February 2002 07:51 pm, Net Llama wrote: > --- Michael Hipp <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Am I to download the src for that file beforehand? > > Yup. > *ALL* you should need if you want to go the SRPM route, is the gcc SRPM. > That's where i got m

Re: Thanks Douglas Hunley

2002-02-06 Thread Michael Hipp
Not sure I followed this. 1280 pixels across 301 mm = ~108 dpi. But does this cause X to change something about how it displays things? I was under the assumption that it was a 75dpi vs 100dpi thing related entirely to which font set to choose (or how to display the font perhaps). Michael On

Re: Font in File Manager

2002-02-06 Thread Michael Hipp
On Wednesday 06 February 2002 03:20 pm, Peter Ruskin wrote: > When the file opens in konqueror, select "Settings | Configure Editor" > from konqui's main menu. That should give you the same options as if you > were using kwrite ( Advanced Editor ). Thanks. Completely missed that. Michael __

Re: Where to get libstdc++-libc6.1-2.so.3

2002-02-06 Thread Michael Hipp
On Wednesday 06 February 2002 03:09 pm, Net Llama wrote: > rpm --rebuild > > If all goes well, you end up with a binary RPM in > /usr/src/OpenLinux/RPM/ [snip] > > After I did that would I have libstdc++-libc6.1-2.so.3? > > You'll have an RPM named libstdc++-libc-foo-whatever-i386.rpm As long as

Re: Thanks Douglas Hunley

2002-02-06 Thread Michael Hipp
On Wednesday 06 February 2002 01:33 pm, Douglas J Hunley wrote: > xdpyinfo|grep resol resolution:90x96 dots per inch > then tell me how you run X? through xdm? or startx? or other? At this moment I boot straight into KDE when it enters runlevel 5. So I presume I'm using kdm. I have attem

Re: Where to get libstdc++-libc6.1-2.so.3

2002-02-06 Thread Michael Hipp
On Wednesday 06 February 2002 03:22 pm, Ian wrote: > Lonni's right...if nobody's ever told you, and it's not obviously > documented in a manner/place for you to easily find it (as a non-guru > type), then it's not a stupid question. Thanks. Am I missing emails. I didn't see such a note from Lonn

Re: Fwd: SuSE noshow at LWCE NY 2002

2002-02-06 Thread Michael Hipp
On Wednesday 06 February 2002 02:07 pm, Zoran wrote: > *** No, but this depends entirely of what your goal in life is. If it is > a filled up bank account than yes you are right. > > There are people, however, for whom crispy bills are not the main driving > force. Furthermore you seem to forget L

Font in File Manager

2002-02-06 Thread Michael Hipp
Does anyone know how to select the font used when File Manager (Konqueror) displays a "Plain Text" file using the embedded viewer? Mine has begun using some font that is almost unreadably ugly and there seems to be no setting for it in Control Center or Konq. Thanks, Michael __

Re: NO MAIL

2002-02-06 Thread Michael Hipp
On Wednesday 06 February 2002 12:16 pm, Glenn Williams wrote: > This next incident is entirely unrelated to the mail famine. I > downloaded ISO images of ELX, burned the 2 install CDs, and installed ELX > on this machine (to co-exist with Windows XP Pro). "Don't mess with the > MBR," says I, but

Re: Thanks Douglas Hunley

2002-02-06 Thread Michael Hipp
On Wednesday 06 February 2002 11:30 am, Douglas J Hunley wrote: > I'm glad that it worked for you! Did you catch the latest additions I put > up about Mesa and Freetype? I'm working on that now. BTW, on that SxS, a couple of items stopped me cold at first: 3. Verify the following libs

Re: Poor Man's Remote Admin

2002-02-06 Thread Michael Hipp
self-contained and will talk smtp to fling an email at your ISP. All parameters spec'd on the command line. Works. Michael On Monday 04 February 2002 05:51 pm, Michael Hipp wrote: > I'm setting up a simple lan server for a client. It's behind a NAT router > so I can't

Re: Where to get libstdc++-libc6.1-2.so.3

2002-02-06 Thread Michael Hipp
c RPM when you rebuild the gcc SRPM, which is prolly the > more prudent method of doing this anyway, otherwise you run the risk of > having incompatible libraries. > > --- Michael Hipp <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > But how do you then know which of the 188 items it lists will g

Re: Where to get libstdc++-libc6.1-2.so.3

2002-02-06 Thread Michael Hipp
But how do you then know which of the 188 items it lists will give you libc6.1-2.so.3? Thanks, Michael On Wednesday 06 February 2002 08:49 am, Net Llama wrote: > Try searching for 'libstdc' instead. I did this just yesterday. ___ Linux-users mailing

Re: Where to get libstdc++-libc6.1-2.so.3

2002-02-05 Thread Michael Hipp
On Wednesday 06 February 2002 01:22 pm, Keith Antoine wrote: > On Tuesday 05 February 2002 10:23 pm, Michael Hipp warbled: > > Where would I come up with a libstdc++-libc6.1-2.so.3 and what would I > > do with it once I had it? > > > > I have a package to install that

Where to get libstdc++-libc6.1-2.so.3

2002-02-05 Thread Michael Hipp
Where would I come up with a libstdc++-libc6.1-2.so.3 and what would I do with it once I had it? I have a package to install that can't live without it. I'm running COLW 3.1.1. Thanks, Michael ___ Linux-users mailing list - http://linux.nf/mailman/li

Thanks Douglas Hunley

2002-02-05 Thread Michael Hipp
I finally got around to doing *all* the stuff in SxS -> XFREE -> XFree410. What a difference! My Linux box no longer has to bow its head in shame next to the W2k machine for readabilty. And my 41-year-old eyeballs will forever be indebted. Thank you. Michael __

Re: Suggested module for PCI LAN Card..?

2002-02-05 Thread Michael Hipp
On Tuesday 05 February 2002 11:54 am, Bill Campbell wrote: > We stopped using the LinkSys NICs because they didn't work all that well > with the Tulip drivers unless you used ones with their patches. It's > been a couple of years since we last tried this so they may be better > now. I have been

Re: Poor Man's Remote Admin

2002-02-04 Thread Michael Hipp
On Monday 04 February 2002 06:25 pm, David A. Bandel wrote: > Look around for something called "dailyscript". I still have it (and > have customized it heavily, so it probably won't work for you). I just > mash it around a bit for each distro/release. Wouldn't be without it. Thanks. I'll check

Re: Suggested module for PCI LAN Card..?

2002-02-04 Thread Michael Hipp
According to LinkSys support page they work fine with the ne2000 driver. Link: http://www.linksys.com/support/support.asp?spid=26 Michael On Monday 04 February 2002 06:09 pm, Bill Day wrote: > I am about to blow my uptime to throw another NIC into my box, 8^(, but > the only ones I havve curre

Poor Man's Remote Admin

2002-02-04 Thread Michael Hipp
I'm setting up a simple lan server for a client. It's behind a NAT router so I can't actually do any remote admin. But I can at least keep track of "how goes it" on the server with a simple script file that runs 1-2 times per day and emails me the output of, say: df ps -aux free tail -

Re: Fwd: SuSE noshow at LWCE NY 2002

2002-02-04 Thread Michael Hipp
On Monday 04 February 2002 06:47 am, Mike Andrew wrote: > [snip] The arcane blitheringly stupid cli syntax of > Linux can get consigned to the dustbin where it deserved to be 20 years > ago. The cli is an embarassment to those who use it. I no longer need to > grep an awk before I bash it. It hasn

Re: Fwd: SuSE noshow at LWCE NY 2002

2002-02-04 Thread Michael Hipp
You make good points, Matthew. But seems to me that something Webmin-ish should be able to run over most any link. Webmin, imho, is the best candidate for a be-all administrator's gui tool. (Its many current shortcomings notwithstanding). But on the desktop I wish the likes of Mandrake, et al

Re: QuickBooks Alternative

2002-02-02 Thread Michael Hipp
On Saturday 02 February 2002 04:46 pm, David A. Bandel wrote: > If your budget is limited ($0), sql-ledger works well. There are one or > two more as well. If you have deep pockets, then I suggest AppGen. Thanks. AppGen looks promising. I don't mind paying reasonable $ for it as QB certainly i

Re: QuickBooks Alternative

2002-02-02 Thread Michael Hipp
On Saturday 02 February 2002 02:03 pm, Peter Ruskin wrote: > On Saturday 02 Feb 2002 19:27, Michael Hipp wrote: > > Does anyone know of a good Linux alternative to Intuit QuickBooks? Or > > does anyone know of a way to run QB on Linux (Wine supposedly doesn't > > work)?

QuickBooks Alternative

2002-02-02 Thread Michael Hipp
Does anyone know of a good Linux alternative to Intuit QuickBooks? Or does anyone know of a way to run QB on Linux (Wine supposedly doesn't work)? QB is the biggest hurdle I seem to face in getting Linux into small businesses (right after the office suite). Thanks, Michael

Re: Standby with ACPI/APM?

2002-01-29 Thread Michael Hipp
On Tuesday 29 January 2002 12:59, Aaron Grewell wrote: > I believe so, but I just got my first laptop this week, so I haven't had > time to play much yet. You may also want to try the Software Suspend > kernel patch. I just saw this today, so I haven't had time to try it > yet, but it's included

Re: Linux Compete for Microsoft partners

2002-01-29 Thread Michael Hipp
On Tuesday 29 January 2002 15:07, Rick Sivernell wrote: > I really appreciate the sympathy you have soon. My son is 30 and > lives in Atlanta. As far as support I have weened him, I do not know 98 > XP, nor do I. tell him about Linux till he shuts up. Works everytime. Here's an idea: Find out w

Standby with ACPI/APM?

2002-01-29 Thread Michael Hipp
Can my system be put into "standby" mode via ACPI or APM? What would I need and how would it be done? A search of google.com/linux didn't turn up anything definitive. (By "standby" I'm referring to powering down except for maintaining system state in DRAM and wake the system back up with a tap

agpgart.o fails

2002-01-28 Thread Michael Hipp
Caldera 3.1 is reporting failure of "agpgart.o" on bootup. Dexktop/LX (aka Redmond Linux) seems to load it ok. Both have this identical line in /etc/modules/conf: # I810 graphics: alias char-major-10-175 agpgart I'm running GeForce2 MX200 agp video. Caldera is xfree 4.0.2c (beta unsupported)

Re: Sharing /home Among Distros?

2002-01-27 Thread Michael Hipp
On Sunday 27 January 2002 08:57, you wrote: > Quoting Michael Hipp <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > Just curious, but I've been seeing double posts from you when you ask a > qustion, sent minutes apart. Are you doing this intentionally or is > something awry with either the list o

Sharing /home Among Distros?

2002-01-26 Thread Michael Hipp
What are the problems to overcome in sharing /home among different distros? I have /home as a separate partition on Caldera 3.1 and I'd like to share it with Desktop/LX (aka Redmond Linux). And maybe Mandrake and Elx eventually. They all use KDE so that makes some things easier. One problem: o

Sharing /home Among Distros?

2002-01-26 Thread Michael Hipp
What are the problems to overcome in sharing /home among different distros? I have /home as a separate partition on Caldera 3.1 and I'd like to share it with Desktop/LX (aka Redmond Linux). And maybe Mandrake and Elx eventually. They all use KDE so that makes some things easier. One problem: o

Article: Converting A Company To OSS

2002-01-26 Thread Michael Hipp
A somewhat long but excellent read on one company's conversion to OSS. The author makes some very good points about the strengths and weaknesses of the software choices available under Linux. http://desktoplinux.com/articles/AT9664091996.html ___ Linu

Another Reason NOT To Use Windows

2002-01-26 Thread Michael Hipp
http://www.hp-eloquence.com/sdb/html/998559406.html In Windows 2000 Pro SP2, MS slipped in the old 10-concurrent-connection limitation that had been removed in NT4 due to public outcry. They snuck it back in. Jerks! So if you know someone who wants a small office LAN server better get them to us

IBM Unveils First Linux-Only Mainframes

2002-01-25 Thread Michael Hipp
From: http://news.iwon.com/home/technology/tech_article/0,2109,195719|technology|0 1-25-2002::00:18|reuters,00.html IBM Unveils First Linux-Only Mainframes January 25, 2002 12:07 am EST ARMONK, N.Y. (Reuters) - International Business Machines Corp. (IBM.N) on Friday said it is launching its firs

2nd hdd on 2nd ide channel?

2002-01-22 Thread Michael Hipp
I'm building a new box for Linux. Partition layout something like this: hda (20G IBM) 1: / (root) Caldera 3.1(5G) 2: / (root) Mandrake 8.1 (5G) 3: / (root) Redmond Linux (5G) 4: / (root) Elx(5G) hdb (empty) hdc (generic IDE CD-ROM) hdd (15G Western Digital)

Re: Thinkpad upgrade

2002-01-21 Thread Michael Hipp
There are a couple of commercial packages that move stuff from 1 HD to another: http://www.v-com.com/product/dw_ind.html runs on Win but supports Ext2 filesystems and many others. Other helpful links: This company has an impeccable reputation for reliable products: http://www.powerquest.com/d

Re: Linux Mag

2002-01-21 Thread Michael Hipp
- Original Message - From: "Dallam Wych" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > I couldn't agree more with these statements. I have only been using > linux for about nice months now, and have found it to be a steep > learning curve but well worth it. I have a much better sense of how > my computer works

Re: an interesting experience

2002-01-21 Thread Michael Hipp
- Original Message - From: "Net Llama" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Windoze will let you completely fubar the video settings to something > above what the monitor will handle. Good luck getting that fixed > without reinstalling the OS, when you have no video, no telnet, no ssh. All you gotta d

Re: an interesting experience

2002-01-21 Thread Michael Hipp
- Original Message - From: "dep" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > -- can ease of use be achieved > without compromising security? -- i do not know, and neither does > microsoft, because it's never been a concern of theirs. nor do they > intend for it to be, because their idea is to own your compute

Re: Re: an interesting experience

2002-01-21 Thread Michael Hipp
- Original Message - From: "Zoran" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Monday, January 21, 2002 1:09 AM Subject: Re: an interesting experience > On Jan 20 Michael Hipp was heard saying: > > ->My point is that we need to make this stuf

Re: an interesting experience

2002-01-21 Thread Michael Hipp
- Original Message - From: "Douglas J Hunley" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Sunday, January 20, 2002 10:20 PM Subject: Re: an interesting experience > Michael Hipp babbled on about: > > I just spent a very long frustrating week w

Re: an interesting experience

2002-01-20 Thread Michael Hipp
- Original Message - From: "David A. Bandel" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Sunday, January 20, 2002 8:49 PM Subject: Re: an interesting experience > I was told (don't know first-hand) that Windoze didn't (does it now?) > allow you to just pop stuff in and out at leis

Re: an interesting experience

2002-01-20 Thread Michael Hipp
ot; <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Sunday, January 20, 2002 6:32 PM Subject: Re: an interesting experience > On Jan 19 Michael Hipp was heard saying: > > ->From: "Jerry McBride" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > ->> > Recently, my father

Should Aunt Tillie build her own kernels?

2002-01-19 Thread Michael Hipp
From: http://lwn.net/2002/0117/index.php3 Should Aunt Tillie build her own kernels? Eric Raymond has been working for some time on a new kernel configuration system which, someday, is slated for incorporation into the 2.5 series. This project has seen its share of controversy over the last year,

Re: an interesting experience

2002-01-19 Thread Michael Hipp
From: "Jerry McBride" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > Recently, my father (who is an OS/2 die-hard) purchaced a SCSI CDRW > > (Yamaha) which he could not get to work. After two weeks of trying, he > > asked me to see if I could get it to work in my Linux box. > > Having moved from OS/2 to linux just a cou

Re: Large cracks in the Windoze, a fud warning.

2002-01-19 Thread Michael Hipp
Let's just make sure we don't take anyone who dares offer constructive criticism of Linux or reports to have found a security problem and immediately fry them as a "mole", "troll", "plant" or whatever. Tarring and feathering needs to be reserved for the real thing; not some innocent who still beli

Re: Netscape webmin fails

2002-01-17 Thread Michael Hipp
From: "Rick Sivernell" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Ok, I have reinstalled the webmin rpm from the cdrom. When started > from terminal or Icon from toolbar, netscape starts and the normal logon > boxes come up. The problem is it blows up & goes away. Reminds me > of a GPF from M$. > > There must be a sec

Re: Netscape webmin fails

2002-01-17 Thread Michael Hipp
From: "Bruce Marshall" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Does webmin come with ws3.1?? I've never had a distro that included it > although it might have come with eD2.4. Webmin came with eD2.4 and also comes with COL3.1. Works. Works well. Michael ___ Linux

Re: internal modem

2002-01-07 Thread Michael Hipp
What about this one: http://www.provantage.com/scripts/go.dll/e13112_14/FP_65886.HTM Michael - Original Message - From: "Ian" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Monday, January 07, 2002 10:09 AM Subject: Re: internal modem > I either need to track down a good PCI interna