Re: kppp on valium

2001-07-11 Thread Net Llama
--- Bruce Marshall <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Wednesday 11 July 2001 12:40, Tony Alfrey wrote: > > On Wednesday 11 July 2001 09:11 am, Net Llama wrote: > > > > > > > Or perhaps add it to /etc/ppp/options ? > > > > Still too stupid to understand this. This line is in > /etc/ppp/options > >

Re: kppp on valium

2001-07-11 Thread Bruce Marshall
On Wednesday 11 July 2001 12:40, Tony Alfrey wrote: > On Wednesday 11 July 2001 09:11 am, Net Llama wrote: > > > > Or perhaps add it to /etc/ppp/options ? > > Still too stupid to understand this. This line is in /etc/ppp/options > > # Increase debugging level (same as -d). The debug output is wr

Re: kppp on valium

2001-07-11 Thread Tony Alfrey
On Wednesday 11 July 2001 09:11 am, Net Llama wrote: > > Or perhaps add it to /etc/ppp/options ? > Still too stupid to understand this. This line is in /etc/ppp/options # Increase debugging level (same as -d). The debug output is written # to syslog LOG_LOCAL2. debug . . . . . .but I haven't

Re: kppp on valium

2001-07-11 Thread Net Llama
--- Bruce Marshall <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Wednesday 11 July 2001 08:56, Tony Alfrey wrote: > > OK, I read it and I'm stupid. Please humor me: the fog up here has > > diffused into my brain. It says: > > > > "The above scripts are written to create minimal blurb. If you need > to > > lo

Re: kppp on valium

2001-07-11 Thread Bruce Marshall
On Wednesday 11 July 2001 08:56, Tony Alfrey wrote: > OK, I read it and I'm stupid. Please humor me: the fog up here has > diffused into my brain. It says: > > "The above scripts are written to create minimal blurb. If you need to > look at /var/log/ppp (mentioned right at the beginning of this

Re: kppp on valium

2001-07-11 Thread Tony Alfrey
OK, I read it and I'm stupid. Please humor me: the fog up here has diffused into my brain. It says: "The above scripts are written to create minimal blurb. If you need to look at /var/log/ppp (mentioned right at the beginning of this SxS) you can enhance the messages adding options to the s

Re: kppp on valium

2001-07-10 Thread Net Llama
http://sxs.sourceforge.net/sxs/pppclient.htm Addenda #1 --- Tony Alfrey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I don't really know what this means: I assume it means making pppd > give > me a list, or log, of messages. I looked on SxS for this but nothing > struck a chord. Can you tell me what heading

Re: kppp on valium

2001-07-10 Thread Tony Alfrey
I don't really know what this means: I assume it means making pppd give me a list, or log, of messages. I looked on SxS for this but nothing struck a chord. Can you tell me what heading I pick in the index? On Saturday 07 July 2001 11:06 pm, Net Llama wrote: > You might want to setup separate

Re: kppp on valium

2001-07-10 Thread Mike Andrew
On Tue, 10 Jul 2001 12:27, you wrote: > I gotta check this. I have an /etc/rc.d/rc.serial (no ~/init.d/~ ) [snip] sorry. typo on my part, i meant /etc/rc.d _ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com ___

Re: kppp on valium

2001-07-10 Thread Glenn Williams
What? And lose our amaeur status? On Monday 09 July 2001 09:22 pm, Andrew Mathews wrote: > Tony Alfrey wrote: > > > > How much better could a users list possibly be?? > > -- > > Tony Alfrey > > Rich and handsome? -- Glenn Williams - [EMAIL PROTECTED] Registered Linux User # 135678 Powered by

Re: Modem Line Speeds, was Re: kppp on valium

2001-07-10 Thread Tony Alfrey
On Tuesday 10 July 2001 04:25 am, Mike Andrew wrote: > On Tuesday 10 July 2001 12:06, Tony Alfrey wrote: > > We are in a surprisingly rural area near a not-so-rural area > > (coastal mountains near sillycone valley) with notoriously bad > > phone lines. > > You talking about Spanish Town or Lindam

Re: kppp on valium

2001-07-10 Thread Tony Alfrey
On Monday 09 July 2001 10:19 pm, Ronnie Gauthier wrote: > Yes, reversed polarity can cause weird stuff sometimes. Even worse > when added with noise caused by hasty remodeling/running lines with > poorly done connections or taps. > I will check. I'll go dust off the DVM and go out to the box on

Re: Modem Line Speeds, was Re: kppp on valium

2001-07-10 Thread Mike Andrew
On Tuesday 10 July 2001 12:06, Tony Alfrey wrote: > We are in a surprisingly rural area near a not-so-rural area (coastal > mountains near sillycone valley) with notoriously bad phone lines. You talking about Spanish Town or Lindamar/Pacifica? -- http://linux.nf -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] _

Re: kppp on valium

2001-07-09 Thread Ronnie Gauthier
Yes, reversed polarity can cause weird stuff sometimes. Even worse when added with noise caused by hasty remodeling/running lines with poorly done connections or taps. Ronnie > On Monday 09 July 2001 08:52 pm, Ronnie Gauthier wrote: > > Not to change the subject a bit but have you checked the po

Re: Modem Line Speeds, was Re: kppp on valium

2001-07-09 Thread Net Llama
--- Tony Alfrey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Monday 09 July 2001 08:37 pm, Net Llama wrote: > > --- Tony Alfrey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > On Sunday 08 July 2001 09:37 am, Ronnie Gauthier wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Modems can also be forced to not fallback, this is best used > > > > to f

Re: kppp on valium

2001-07-09 Thread Tony Alfrey
On Monday 09 July 2001 08:52 pm, Ronnie Gauthier wrote: > Not to change the subject a bit but have you checked the polarity on > your phone line? > > Ronnie You mean like, voltage with respect to ground? -- Tony Alfrey [EMAIL PROTECTED] "I'd rather be sailing" _

Re: Modem Line Speeds, was Re: kppp on valium

2001-07-09 Thread Tony Alfrey
On Monday 09 July 2001 08:37 pm, Net Llama wrote: > --- Tony Alfrey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > On Sunday 08 July 2001 09:37 am, Ronnie Gauthier wrote: > > > > > > > Modems can also be forced to not fallback, this is best used > > > to force a redial to get a cleaner line, normally only a conc

Re: kppp on valium

2001-07-09 Thread Tony Alfrey
On Monday 09 July 2001 08:22 pm, Andrew Mathews wrote: > Tony Alfrey wrote: > > works! How much better could a users list possibly be?? > > -- > > Tony Alfrey > > Rich and handsome? I have absolutely no comeback for that ;-) -- Tony Alfrey [EMAIL PROTECTED] "I'd rather be sailing"

Re: kppp on valium

2001-07-09 Thread Ronnie Gauthier
Not to change the subject a bit but have you checked the polarity on your phone line? Ronnie > On Sunday 08 July 2001 09:17 am, Bruce Marshall wrote: > > > So even though your modem/line may be running at 28.8, you can > > achieve much more throughput due to data compression by setting your > >

Re: Modem Line Speeds, was Re: kppp on valium

2001-07-09 Thread Net Llama
--- Tony Alfrey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Sunday 08 July 2001 09:37 am, Ronnie Gauthier wrote: > > > Modems can also be forced to not fallback, this is best used > > to force a redial to get a cleaner line, normally only a concern for > > those in rural areas where lines are usually poor.

Re: kppp on valium

2001-07-09 Thread Andrew Mathews
Tony Alfrey wrote: > Well, this looks like it! I had the right port and IRQ but the wrong > UART selected in the manual configuration section of > /etc/init.d/serial. Things now seem to be ripping right along (as > 'ripping' as my modem ever seems to get). > Thanks to EVERYONE that gave suggest

Re: kppp on valium

2001-07-09 Thread Tony Alfrey
> On Sunday 08 July 2001 11:33 pm, Mike Andrew wrote: > > On Monday 09 July 2001 08:06, Richard Thompson wrote: > > > ... have you used "setserial" to check whether or not your > > > various distros have correctly initialized the serial port - with > > > particular attention to the UART? > > > >

Re: Modem Line Speeds, was Re: kppp on valium

2001-07-09 Thread Tony Alfrey
On Sunday 08 July 2001 09:37 am, Ronnie Gauthier wrote: > Modems can also be forced to not fallback, this is best used > to force a redial to get a cleaner line, normally only a concern for > those in rural areas where lines are usually poor. Some modems are > better than others at handling line

Re: kppp on valium

2001-07-09 Thread Tony Alfrey
On Sunday 08 July 2001 01:36 pm, Richard Thompson wrote: > Probably the reason this hasn't been suggested thus far is that it > has nothing to do with nothing, but (and someone please correct me > quickly if I'm wrong ... > > ... have you used "setserial" to check whether or not your various > di

Re: kppp on valium

2001-07-09 Thread Bruce Marshall
On Monday 09 July 2001 20:31, Tony Alfrey wrote: > On Sunday 08 July 2001 09:17 am, Bruce Marshall wrote: > > > > Oh, well if it's a no-brainer issue, that will be a good match at this > end. So I will reset it to warp speed. > BTW, I've been nuking everything that looks extraneous according to

Re: kppp on valium

2001-07-09 Thread Tony Alfrey
On Sunday 08 July 2001 11:33 pm, Mike Andrew wrote: > On Monday 09 July 2001 08:06, Richard Thompson wrote: > > ... have you used "setserial" to check whether or not your various > > distros have correctly initialized the serial port - with > > particular attention to the UART? > > oooh, you are v

Re: kppp on valium

2001-07-09 Thread Tony Alfrey
On Sunday 08 July 2001 09:17 am, Bruce Marshall wrote: > So even though your modem/line may be running at 28.8, you can > achieve much more throughput due to data compression by setting your > serial port rate much higher. > > And the big thing?It can't hurt regardless of compression or line

Re: kppp on valium

2001-07-09 Thread Mike Andrew
On Monday 09 July 2001 22:33, Richard Thompson wrote: [snip] > P.S. If you want to recapture your youth > I do have a PCB 4 Digiboard (complete with octopus) and a couple of > RocketPort cards lying about . Will tade for beer. I'll see your Digiport and raise you by a stallion 24 port cluster.

Re: kppp on valium

2001-07-09 Thread Richard Thompson
On Sunday 08 July 2001 22:33, you wrote: > On Monday 09 July 2001 08:06, Richard Thompson wrote: > > ... have you used "setserial" to check whether or not your various > > distros have correctly initialized the serial port - with particular > > attention to the UART? > > oooh, you are very right.

Re: kppp on valium

2001-07-09 Thread Mike Andrew
On Monday 09 July 2001 08:06, Richard Thompson wrote: > ... have you used "setserial" to check whether or not your various distros > have correctly initialized the serial port - with particular attention to > the UART? oooh, you are very right. On a col distro, /etc/init.d/rc.serial is disable

Re: kppp on valium

2001-07-08 Thread Mike Andrew
On Monday 09 July 2001 03:47, Bruce Marshall wrote: > And the big thing?It can't hurt regardless of compression or line > quality. > > It's a no-brainer issue. voila. -- http://linux.nf -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ Do You Yahoo!? Get your

Re: Modem Line Speeds, was Re: kppp on valium

2001-07-08 Thread Mike Andrew
On Monday 09 July 2001 02:37, Tony Alfrey wrote: > Is the modem smart enough to know when the phone line is capable > (bandwidth-wise) of supporting a high data rate? It's a two part answer. The modems negotiate between themselves, to 'discover' what speed each can handle and which protocol the

Re: kppp on valium

2001-07-08 Thread Richard Thompson
Probably the reason this hasn't been suggested thus far is that it has nothing to do with nothing, but (and someone please correct me quickly if I'm wrong ... ... have you used "setserial" to check whether or not your various distros have correctly initialized the serial port - with particula

Re: Modem Line Speeds, was Re: kppp on valium

2001-07-08 Thread Ronnie Gauthier
When modems connect some of the squealing you hear is the modems negotiating what speed they will connect at. Factors are the speed of the modem on the other end, and the line conditions, among others. The modems can step down, ~fallback~, to a lower speed, dirty lines will result in a lower conne

Re: Modem Line Speeds, was Re: kppp on valium

2001-07-08 Thread Bruce Marshall
On Sunday 08 July 2001 11:07, Tony Alfrey wrote: > On Sunday 08 July 2001 02:11 am, Mike Andrew wrote: > > On Sunday 08 July 2001 14:45, Tony Alfrey wrote: > > > Both distros now set at 38K. I'll try 57K, but they already act > > > differently. > > > > You MUST set your "line speed" to "one more"

Re: kppp on valium

2001-07-08 Thread Bruce Marshall
On Sunday 08 July 2001 10:59, Tony Alfrey wrote: > On Saturday 07 July 2001 09:04 pm, Bruce Marshall wrote: > > On Saturday 07 July 2001 23:15, Tony Alfrey wrote: > > > Both distros now set at 38K. I'll try 57K, but they already act > > > differently. > > > > > > On Saturday 07 July 2001 09:23 am

Re: kppp on valium

2001-07-08 Thread Tony Alfrey
I will try this. I'll also try killing the /etc/ppp/options in SuSE since the one in COL LTP is doing nothing. I can easily fix it if it screws up. On Sunday 08 July 2001 03:38 am, Mike Andrew wrote: > On Sunday 08 July 2001 09:06, Tony Alfrey wrote: > > OK, so far we've got the following: >

Re: Modem Line Speeds, was Re: kppp on valium

2001-07-08 Thread Tony Alfrey
On Sunday 08 July 2001 02:11 am, Mike Andrew wrote: > On Sunday 08 July 2001 14:45, Tony Alfrey wrote: > > Both distros now set at 38K. I'll try 57K, but they already act > > differently. > > You MUST set your "line speed" to "one more" than your "connection > speed". Period. How much 'more' is i

Re: kppp on valium

2001-07-08 Thread Tony Alfrey
On Saturday 07 July 2001 09:04 pm, Bruce Marshall wrote: > On Saturday 07 July 2001 23:15, Tony Alfrey wrote: > > Both distros now set at 38K. I'll try 57K, but they already act > > differently. > > > > On Saturday 07 July 2001 09:23 am, Lee wrote: > > > On the kppp setup under devices set the mo

Re: kppp on valium

2001-07-08 Thread Mike Andrew
On Sunday 08 July 2001 09:06, Tony Alfrey wrote: > OK, so far we've got the following: [snip] Everything that's happening in the COL side is done by the command line (or psuedo, via kppp) SuSe relies on ~/ip-up to (probably) setup default routes, set ifconfig, whatever. *IN GENERAL* ip-up i

Modem Line Speeds, was Re: kppp on valium

2001-07-08 Thread Mike Andrew
On Sunday 08 July 2001 14:45, Tony Alfrey wrote: > Both distros now set at 38K. I'll try 57K, but they already act > differently. You MUST set your "line speed" to "one more" than your "connection speed". Period. How much 'more' is immaterial. If you fail to do so, you will never, and can *nev

Re: kppp on valium

2001-07-07 Thread Net Llama
You might want to setup separate logging for pppd to see exactly what its doing. The SxS covers how to do this. --- Tony Alfrey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > OK, so far we've got the following: > > 1./sbin/ifconfig shows that MTU in both distros is 1500 when > on-line > > 2.In SuSE 7.2;

Re: kppp on valium

2001-07-07 Thread Bruce Marshall
On Saturday 07 July 2001 23:15, Tony Alfrey wrote: > Both distros now set at 38K. I'll try 57K, but they already act > differently. > > On Saturday 07 July 2001 09:23 am, Lee wrote: > > On the kppp setup under devices set the moem speed for 57k > > Don't you really want to set them for 115200?

Re: kppp on valium

2001-07-07 Thread Tony Alfrey
Both distros now set at 38K. I'll try 57K, but they already act differently. On Saturday 07 July 2001 09:23 am, Lee wrote: > On the kppp setup under devices set the moem speed for 57k > -- Tony Alfrey [EMAIL PROTECTED] "I'd rather be sailing" ___ ht

Re: kppp on valium

2001-07-07 Thread Glenn Williams
Hi, Tony: Thanks for pointing this out. I'm beginning to discover that SuSE likes to put lots of stuff in config files. All good stuff to know. Regards, Glenn On Saturday 07 July 2001 15:43, you wrote: > On Saturday 07 July 2001 08:18 am, Glenn Williams wrote: [snip] > > it drops my Int

Re: kppp on valium

2001-07-07 Thread Tony Alfrey
On Saturday 07 July 2001 11:09 am, Dallam Wych wrote: > If you do a man pppd and search idle ( /idleCR does that where CR > means the enter key), you will see the parameter idle n which stops > your side of the ppp connection after n seconds of inactivity (saves > you money if you forget to dr

Re: kppp on valium

2001-07-07 Thread Dallam Wych
If you do a man pppd and search idle ( /idleCR does that where CR means the enter key), you will see the parameter idle n which stops your side of the ppp connection after n seconds of inactivity (saves you money if you forget to drop the line here in the UK...). The line idle 180 (3 minu

Re: kppp on valium

2001-07-07 Thread Glenn Williams
On Saturday 07 July 2001 11:20, you wrote: > On Sat, 07 Jul 2001, Glenn Williams cleverly noted: > > > > I'm running SuSE 7.2 and using 'kinternet' as well, and it's as > > fast as I could want (although it drops my Internet dialup > > connection when idle, for no apparent reason - maybe I'll fin

Re: kppp on valium

2001-07-07 Thread Michael Scottaline
On Sat, 07 Jul 2001, Glenn Williams cleverly noted: > > I'm running SuSE 7.2 and using 'kinternet' as well, and it's as fast as > I could want (although it drops my Internet dialup connection when > idle, for no apparent reason - maybe I'll find a configuration option > for setting the idle t

Re: kppp on valium

2001-07-07 Thread Lee
On the kppp setup under devices set the moem speed for 57k Tony Alfrey wrote: > Hi gang! > > OK, I've got a case of kppp on sedatives and I don't know where to look. > My box has a Hayes 56K ISA modem (that never runs above 28K because of > slow phone lines, but that is not the issue) with

Re: kppp on valium

2001-07-07 Thread Lee
My mistake set it for 115k. Sorry about that. Tony Alfrey wrote: > Hi gang! > > OK, I've got a case of kppp on sedatives and I don't know where to look. > My box has a Hayes 56K ISA modem (that never runs above 28K because of > slow phone lines, but that is not the issue) with manual jumpers. >

Re: kppp on valium

2001-07-07 Thread Glenn Williams
Hi, Tony: This may be way out in left field, but does a look at 'dmesg' reveal anything relating to a comm port IRQ or address conflict? I'm running SuSE 7.2 and using 'kinternet' as well, and it's as fast as I could want (although it drops my Internet dialup connection when idle, for no appa

Re: kppp on valium

2001-07-07 Thread Tony Alfrey
Thanks to all (Mike, Mike, Dallam and The Llllama so far) for your ideas! I just woke up so it'll take me a bit to work on this. -- Tony Alfrey [EMAIL PROTECTED] "I'd rather be sailing" ___ http://linux.nf -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives, Subscribe,

Re: kppp on valium

2001-07-07 Thread Michael Scottaline
On Sat, 07 Jul 2001, Tony Alfrey cleverly noted: > Hi gang! > > OK, I've got a case of kppp on sedatives and I don't know where to look. > My box has a Hayes 56K ISA modem (that never runs above 28K because of > slow phone lines, but that is not the issue) with manual jumpers. > On one partition

Re: kppp on valium

2001-07-07 Thread Dallam
Hi, Once you run /sbin/ifconfig and find the MTU setting, perhaps you might try adjusting it as it is probably set to 1500 by default. This setting sometimes does not suit some isp's. I run SuSE 7.1 and found kppp/ kinternet etc to be a bit funny so I just use wvdial now. Dallam -- / / _ --

Re: kppp on valium

2001-07-06 Thread Mike Andrew
On Saturday 07 July 2001 16:47, Net Llama wrote: > Start by comparingthe MTU. run /sbin/ifconfig when dialed up. No matter which way you cut it, (kppp, ksafer, xisp, ppp scripts) ALL of them ultimately refer to /etc/ppp/options for further "things to do". The _actual_ additional scripts (and c

kppp on valium

2001-07-06 Thread Tony Alfrey
Hi gang! OK, I've got a case of kppp on sedatives and I don't know where to look. My box has a Hayes 56K ISA modem (that never runs above 28K because of slow phone lines, but that is not the issue) with manual jumpers. On one partition, I run Caldera LTP with kppp 2.0.0 and my connection is fin