Re: [lisp] WG work items list [WAS: Re: Proposed WG Charter on GitHub]

2023-10-16 Thread Dino Farinacci
June 24 for both LCAF related and mobility sets? Fine with me. Dino > On Oct 16, 2023, at 4:46 PM, Padma Pillay-Esnault > wrote: > > Hi Dino > > The groupings look good! > > Some dates look too aggressive Nov 2023: draft-ietf-lisp-geo, > draft-ietf-lisp-name-encoding, RFC 8060 and 9306 (S

Re: [lisp] WG work items list [WAS: Re: Proposed WG Charter on GitHub]

2023-10-16 Thread Padma Pillay-Esnault
Hi Dino The groupings look good! Some dates look too aggressive Nov 2023: draft-ietf-lisp-geo, draft-ietf-lisp-name-encoding, RFC 8060 and 9306 (Standards Track). We are already there ... As the dates proposed are target dates, i suggest we keep the date of June 2024 but if we can go faster it i

Re: [lisp] WG work items list [WAS: Re: Proposed WG Charter on GitHub]

2023-10-16 Thread Dino Farinacci
> What do you think of putting some major milestones for mobility and security > sections rather than per document? I think security is further out compared to mobility. Just because other groups will have to peer-review the security documents. But good suggestion and will incldue below the set

Re: [lisp] WG work items list [WAS: Re: Proposed WG Charter on GitHub]

2023-10-16 Thread Padma Pillay-Esnault
Hi Dino Thank you for the comments. What do you think of putting some major milestones for mobility and security sections rather than per document? Padma On Mon, Oct 16, 2023 at 12:31 PM Dino Farinacci wrote: > Looking at what you put earlier versus later is not based on the reality > of th

Re: [lisp] The LISP WG has placed draft-farinacci-lisp-decent in state "Call For Adoption By WG Issued"

2023-10-16 Thread Dino Farinacci
> HTTP! And to make things more confusing, it was up to a router to pull from > specific sources, like RIRs. Right, so it was a "pull-all-state" protocol. Not a push, like BGP would do it. Dino ___ lisp mailing list lisp@ietf.org https://www.ietf.org

[lisp] I-D Action: draft-farinacci-lisp-decent-13.txt

2023-10-16 Thread internet-drafts
Internet-Draft draft-farinacci-lisp-decent-13.txt is now available. It is a work item of the Locator/ID Separation Protocol (LISP) WG of the IETF. Title: A Decent LISP Mapping System (LISP-Decent) Authors: Dino Farinacci Colin Cantrell Name:draft-farinacci-lisp-decent-13

Re: [lisp] The LISP WG has placed draft-farinacci-lisp-decent in state "Call For Adoption By WG Issued"

2023-10-16 Thread Eliot Lear
On 16.10.2023 21:36, Dino Farinacci wrote: NERD, used management protocols and not a control plane if I recall. HTTP!  And to make things more confusing, it was up to a router to pull from specific sources, like RIRs. Eliot ___ lisp mailing list

Re: [lisp] The LISP WG has placed draft-farinacci-lisp-decent in state "Call For Adoption By WG Issued"

2023-10-16 Thread Joel Halpern
Thank you.  That fully resolves my concern. Yours, Joel On 10/16/2023 4:26 PM, Dino Farinacci wrote: Yes, that would do it. Please ack if these diffs satisfy your comments. Thanks, Dino ___ lisp mailing list lisp@ietf.org https://www.ietf.org/

Re: [lisp] The LISP WG has placed draft-farinacci-lisp-decent in state "Call For Adoption By WG Issued"

2023-10-16 Thread Dino Farinacci
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Re: [lisp] The LISP WG has placed draft-farinacci-lisp-decent in state "Call For Adoption By WG Issued"

2023-10-16 Thread Joel Halpern
Yes, that would do it. Yours, Joel On 10/16/2023 3:41 PM, Dino Farinacci wrote: I can change the spec to be more specific as you suggest. Would that work for you? Dino On Oct 16, 2023, at 12:38 PM, Joel Halpern wrote: To point to one example of the problem, this draft defines "push based

Re: [lisp] The LISP WG has placed draft-farinacci-lisp-decent in state "Call For Adoption By WG Issued"

2023-10-16 Thread Dino Farinacci
I can change the spec to be more specific as you suggest. Would that work for you? Dino > On Oct 16, 2023, at 12:38 PM, Joel Halpern wrote: > > To point to one example of the problem, this draft defines "push based" as > using multicast. Decent uses multicast. But not all push based systems

Re: [lisp] The LISP WG has placed draft-farinacci-lisp-decent in state "Call For Adoption By WG Issued"

2023-10-16 Thread Joel Halpern
To point to one example of the problem, this draft defines "push based" as using multicast.  Decent uses multicast.  But not all push based systems use multicast.  The definitions of push-based and pull-based should be general.  Decent-pulll and decent-push (or some other terms) can be defined

Re: [lisp] The LISP WG has placed draft-farinacci-lisp-decent in state "Call For Adoption By WG Issued"

2023-10-16 Thread Dino Farinacci
> Relative to the LISP mapping system, the terms pull-based and push-based long > predate this draft. There was an original push-based mapping system proposed > (in which all mappings were pushed to all ITRs). While we decided not to > advance that, Right, the LISP-Decent pushed-based uses mu

Re: [lisp] WG work items list [WAS: Re: Proposed WG Charter on GitHub]

2023-10-16 Thread Dino Farinacci
Looking at what you put earlier versus later is not based on the reality of the readiness of the documents. Here are some comments: (1) Nov 2023 should be Submit Name-Encoding to IESG. (2) Geo-Coordinates has been stable for a long time where NAT-traversal is so far from ready. The June date for

Re: [lisp] The LISP WG has placed draft-farinacci-lisp-decent in state "Call For Adoption By WG Issued"

2023-10-16 Thread Joel Halpern
I have a relatively minor teminological problem with this draft. (I have no opinion as to whether technologically it is a good idea for the LISP WG to adopt it.) Relative to the LISP mapping system, the terms pull-based and push-based long predate this draft.  There was an original push-based

Re: [lisp] WG work items list [WAS: Re: Proposed WG Charter on GitHub]

2023-10-16 Thread Luigi Iannone
Good points Padma, What about the following ordering? 1. November 2023: Submit a LISP Yang model document to the IESG for consideration 2. March 2024: Submit LISP Traffic Engineering document to the IESG for consideration 3. March 2024: Submit LISP Reliable Transport document to the IESG for

[lisp] The LISP WG has placed draft-jain-lisp-site-external-connectivity in state "Call For Adoption By WG Issued"

2023-10-16 Thread IETF Secretariat
The LISP WG has placed draft-jain-lisp-site-external-connectivity in state Call For Adoption By WG Issued (entered by Luigi Iannone) The document is available at https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-jain-lisp-site-external-connectivity/ ___ lisp ma

[lisp] The LISP WG has placed draft-farinacci-lisp-decent in state "Call For Adoption By WG Issued"

2023-10-16 Thread IETF Secretariat
The LISP WG has placed draft-farinacci-lisp-decent in state Call For Adoption By WG Issued (entered by Luigi Iannone) The document is available at https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-farinacci-lisp-decent/ ___ lisp mailing list lisp@ietf.org https

Re: [lisp] WG work items list [WAS: Re: Proposed WG Charter on GitHub]

2023-10-16 Thread Luigi Iannone
Hi Padma, > On Oct 13, 2023, at 19:21, Padma Pillay-Esnault wrote: > >> >> Main work items are identified as follows: >> >> Standard Track Documents: The core specifications of LISP have been >> published as “Standard Track” ([RFC9300], [RFC9301]). The WG will continue >> the work of moving