[IFWP] ICANN's claims of disinterest of the public are clearly false

1999-09-27 Thread William X. Walsh
ICANN's MAC and staff have tried to portray the Internet Community as disinterested and lacking motivation to be informed and be a part of the process. An experience of mine over the last several weeks has shown me that this claim has no real factual basis, and is instead nothing more than an

[IFWP] NYT Internet forum info.

1999-09-27 Thread Jeff Williams
All, For those that might be interested the NYT also provides a forum on the "ICANN Happenings". You can post comments on their web form there. Here is that link: http://forums.nytimes.com/webin/WebX?13@@.eff205d I don't know how many folks read this forum, but if you have some comments,

[IFWP] Re: [IDNO-DISCUSS] Mikki's posting on the URDP draft

1999-09-27 Thread Jeff Williams
Joop and all IDNO'ers, I don't want to take away from Mikkis effort, but it is just possible at the very least that Joop here has a very strong argument. Is there really a need for a UDRP. I wonder this myself? BUt we [INEGroup] have our prepared in response anyway. But now that I think on

[IFWP] Re: IP: ICANN and IBM

1999-09-27 Thread Ellen Rony
On September 25, 1999, a message from John Patrick of IBM was posted on several of the the DNS-related mailing lists that I inhabit. It is certainly important for those of us monitoring ICANN's activities to hear the reasons behind IBM's involvement and bridge grant to ICANN. Nonetheless, as

Re: [IFWP] date of new york times quote on esthers inter est indoing real work? and to hell with process??

1999-09-27 Thread Mikki Barry
Does anyone have the date and contest for this outstanding comment? In a recent New York Times article, Esther Dyson was quoted as saying "With all due respect, we are less interested in complaints about process" and more interested in "doing real work and moving forward." Santiago meeting.

Re: [IFWP] from IP ICANN and IBM

1999-09-27 Thread Sr. Francisco Fanego
"The rats came out of their hiding place. New York was into its fifth day without electricity.Even the sewer people came out to enjoy the sun. There were few "actual" people on the street, everyone that had a home to go to was at home, with guns and candles and bibles open to the Psalms, but

Re: [IFWP] date of new york times quote on esthers inter est in doing real work? and to hell with process??

1999-09-27 Thread A.M. Rutkowski
At 11:42 PM 9/25/99 , you wrote: In a recent New York Times article, Esther Dyson was quoted as saying "With all due respect, we are less interested in complaints about process" and more interested in "doing real work and moving forward." The quote was publicly raised with Esther on the panel

[IFWP] INEGroups position on ICANN bylaws changes.

1999-09-27 Thread Jeff Williams
All, I as spokesman for INEGroup have posted our position on the ICANN proposed bylaw changes which the deadline is today. You may view them at: http://www.icann.org/comments-mail/comment-bylaws/msg9.html Information for posting your potential position on the proposed ICANN bylaw changes

[IFWP] [Fwd: INEGroup's position on proposed ICANN bylaws changes.]

1999-09-27 Thread Jeff Williams
For all, From: Jeff Williams, Spokesman INEGroup To: Whom it may concern ICANN (Initial?) Interim Board) Subject: Proposed ICANN Bylaw changes see: http://www.icann.org/general/bylaws-changes-16sept99.htm In keeping with the principals and requirements of the White

[IFWP] [Fwd: INEGroup's position on proposed ICANN bylaws changes - correction Reformatted]

1999-09-27 Thread Jeff Williams
For all, From: Jeff Williams, Spokesman INEGroup To: Whom it may concern ICANN (Initial?) Interim Board) Subject: Proposed ICANN Bylaw changes see: http://www.icann.org/general/bylaws-changes-16sept99.htm In keeping with the principals and requirements of the White

[IFWP] BOUNCE list@ifwp.org: Non-member submission from [Judith Oppenheimer joppenheimer@icbtollfree.com]

1999-09-27 Thread Richard J. Sexton
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[IFWP] BOUNCE list@ifwp.org: Non-member submission from [Judith Oppenheimer joppenheimer@icbtollfree.com]

1999-09-27 Thread Richard J. Sexton
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[IFWP] BOUNCE list@ifwp.org: Non-member submission from [Dinesh Nair dinesh@alphaque.com]

1999-09-27 Thread Richard J. Sexton
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[IFWP] Repost: [names] New gTLDs

1999-09-27 Thread Jay Fenello
FYI: Date: Sun, 26 Sep 1999 15:03:08 -0400 To: Becky Burr [EMAIL PROTECTED], "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], Esther Dyson [EMAIL PROTECTED], Mike Roberts [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED]

RE: [IFWP] Repost: [names] New gTLDs

1999-09-27 Thread R . Gaetano
I may have missed something, but it seems to me that Green Paper and White Paper are two distinct things. The former was a draft, and is now buried in oblivion, while the second is the current (as today, 1999-09-27) statement of policy of the USG. As such, I don't understand in the following

RE: [IFWP] Repost: [names] New gTLDs

1999-09-27 Thread Jay Fenello
At 12:51 PM 9/27/99 , [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I may have missed something, but it seems to me that Green Paper and White Paper are two distinct things. The former was a draft, and is now buried in oblivion, while the second is the current (as today, 1999-09-27) statement of policy of the USG. As

RE: [IFWP] Repost: [names] New gTLDs

1999-09-27 Thread Richard J. Sexton
At 06:51 PM 9/27/99 +0200, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I may have missed something, but it seems to me that Green Paper and White Paper are two distinct things. The former was a draft, and is now buried in oblivion, while the second is the current (as today, 1999-09-27) statement of policy of the

[IFWP] BOUNCE list@ifwp.org: Non-member submission from [Jean-Michel Becar Jean-Michel.Becar@etsi.fr]

1999-09-27 Thread Richard J. Sexton
That's because your mail bounced for a week; I had to unsubscribe you. There's a sign up form at http://lists.ifwp.org Return-Path: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Delivered-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: BOUNCE [EMAIL PROTECTED]:Non-member submission from

RE: [IFWP] Repost: [names] New gTLDs

1999-09-27 Thread A.M. Rutkowski
At 01:03 PM 9/27/99 , Jay Fenello wrote: The White Paper is *not* quoted, only referenced. If you can find where the White Paper decides the business model question, then by all means, please post it. It's worth noting that the "White Paper" has no force or effect in US law or policy - which

RE: [IFWP] Repost: [names] New gTLDs

1999-09-27 Thread A.M. Rutkowski
At 12:51 PM 9/27/99 , [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The former was a draft, and is now buried in oblivion, while the second is the current (as today, 1999-09-27) statement of policy of the USG. Roberto: "UNITED STATES DEPARTMENT OF COMMERCE Management of Internet Names and Addresses

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1999-09-27 Thread Richard J. Sexton (At work)
Path: ns3.vrx.net!news2.best.com!newsfeed.berkeley.edu!newsfeed.stanford.edu!logbridge.uoregon.edu!newsfeed.direct.ca!tor-nx1.netcom.ca!tor-nn1.netcom.ca.POSTED!nospam From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Tom Carbon) Newsgroups: comp.protocols.tcp-ip.domains Subject: Re: Valuation models for names?

[IFWP] FW: My resignation from the IDNO Steering Committee

1999-09-27 Thread William X. Walsh
Forwarded for informational purposes. -FW: My resignation from the IDNO Steering Committee- Date: Mon, 27 Sep 1999 15:03:08 -0700 (PDT) From: "William X. Walsh" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: My resignation from the IDNO Steering Committee Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] As I

Re: [IFWP] FW: My resignation from the IDNO Steering Committee

1999-09-27 Thread Richard J. Sexton
Thats the longest thing you've ever written, Will. What happened? -- [EMAIL PROTECTED][EMAIL PROTECTED] "Sometimes you have to have patience with things that annoy you." -Xena, "Xena: Warrior Princess"

Re: [IFWP] ICANN's claims of disinterest of the public are clearlyfalse

1999-09-27 Thread J. Baptista
How you manage to make ICANN's claims of a disinterested public into a William X. Walsh website promo campaign is trully glorious to behold. On Sun, 26 Sep 1999, William X. Walsh wrote: ICANN's MAC and staff have tried to portray the Internet Community as disinterested and lacking

Re: [IFWP] FW: My resignation from the IDNO Steering Committee

1999-09-27 Thread J. Baptista
On Mon, 27 Sep 1999, William X. Walsh wrote: Forwarded for informational purposes. -FW: My resignation from the IDNO Steering Committee- I've deleted the rest, because only notice of your resignation is important, the rest is the usual gibbersih and nonsense you ususally trade

Re: [IFWP] FW: My resignation from the IDNO Steering Committee

1999-09-27 Thread J. Baptista
He was exposed. On Mon, 27 Sep 1999, Richard J. Sexton wrote: Thats the longest thing you've ever written, Will. What happened? -- [EMAIL PROTECTED][EMAIL PROTECTED] "Sometimes you have to have patience with things that annoy you."

[IFWP] Internet Tax Panel Faces Thorny Issues (CyberTimes) Communications-relatedHeadlines for 9/15/99 (fwd)

1999-09-27 Thread J. Baptista
E-COMMERCE Internet Tax Panel Faces Thorny Issues (CyberTimes) House Republican leaders sent a letter to the 19-member Advisory Commission on Electronic Commerce, a commission appointed by Congress last year to report back on Internet taxation, reminding them that the reason the body was formed

[IFWP] Re: Domain for sale

1999-09-27 Thread J. Baptista
On Mon, 27 Sep 1999, Ken Stubbs wrote: its sad to see the recent events with baptista, hollingsworth, rizzo etc Ken. You have nothing to say with respect to hollingsworth or rizzo, because in your own words, you don't know if their real or imaginary. Now - with respect to myself, you know

[IFWP] Re: response

1999-09-27 Thread J. Baptista
Ken. Let's get real, what this is about is if Ken ever makes the millions he needs to live a great life, and will Ken's friends make those millions with Ken. Ken's afraid all his plans and those of his friends are going to go down the drain. Ken worried he's going to lose power, a power he

[IFWP] Re: Domain for sale

1999-09-27 Thread J. Baptista
If Esthers good, and I know she's top drawer - I'm certain she won't even blink. Domainac's chance in being sued by Esther is remote. On Mon, 27 Sep 1999, Rusty H. Hodge wrote: I suspect that Domainac is trying to get himself sued by Esther, so he can get some of the ICANN issues he's

[IFWP] Re: BOUNCE list@ifwp.org: Non-member submission from [Ken Stubbs kstubbs@dninet.net]

1999-09-27 Thread Richard J. Sexton
That's "libel", Ken, not "liable". And thats "they're = they are", not "their", Joe. Carry on the good work. You both make me proud. At 09:50 PM 9/27/99 -0400, you wrote: From [EMAIL PROTECTED] Mon Sep 27 21:50:56 1999 Return-Path: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Delivered-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Received:

Re: [IFWP] Internet Tax Panel Faces Thorny Issues (CyberTimes) Communications-related Headlines for 9/15/99 (fwd)

1999-09-27 Thread Jeff Williams
Joe and all, Great that you pointed this out. Nice find. I could not agree more with old Dick here either! He is right! Others might want to see the letter in entirety at: http://www.freedom.gov/library/technology/itfaletter.asp also one might want to see some of the issues on privacy as

Re: [IFWP] Re: Domain for sale

1999-09-27 Thread Jeff Williams
Joe and all, I think it is more likely that Esther knows that if she did sue, she would lose and lose badly. I just wish that the site that Russ put up was a little more lively! ;) J. Baptista wrote: If Esthers good, and I know she's top drawer - I'm certain she won't even blink.

Re: [IFWP] Internet Tax Panel Faces Thorny Issues (CyberTimes) Communications-relatedHeadlines for 9/15/99 (fwd)

1999-09-27 Thread A. Gehring
Wow, there is a taxation vacuum. I should have thought of founding the ICANN. Who else will be able to collect these taxes in behalf of all those jurisdictions? ag - Original Message - From: J. Baptista [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday,

RE: [IFWP] Repost: [names] New gTLDs

1999-09-27 Thread R . Gaetano
Jay Fenello wrote: The White Paper is *not* quoted, only referenced. I stand corrected. You are right. Roberto

Re: [IFWP] ADR

1999-09-27 Thread Brian C. Hollingsworth
Mr. Sexton and Everyone, I fail to see where an ADRP benefits anyone, with the possible exception of certain elements of the legal profession. Richard J. Sexton wrote: http://stream.internet.com/ From this take the Cybersquatting link. The most interesting thing was that both sides

RE (2): [IFWP] Repost: [names] New gTLDs

1999-09-27 Thread R . Gaetano
Tony Rutkowski wrote: At 12:51 PM 9/27/99 , [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The former was a draft, and is now buried in oblivion, while the second is the current (as today, 1999-09-27) statement of policy of the USG. Roberto: "UNITED STATES DEPARTMENT OF COMMERCE Management of