Demographics vs democracy.
Should be: Reconciliation of liberal conscience with realpolitik:
Was Re: You are Turning Away Outside Members Who Attempt To Register
Demographics vs democracy, Diane? The rabid hordes are at the gates!
Diane Cabell wrote:
> >>I'm curious. Why is ICANN insisting on *
Kent,
I'd be interested for comments on the following partial note, from all
those who are Jeff Williams, those passing through a Jeff Williams phase
and those still pretending not to be Jeff Williams. I apologise for
thinking aloud (again), sententiously and badly, but it is not only
something t
urplus or not, if ICANN is not seen to be
proactively and creatively assuming its role, then it will wither, as
its excessively US-centric makeup already displays as a retreat from its
international obligations.
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Mark Measday
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In rereading some of the comments on the icann.org list, I was struck by
the absence of some 50% of the messages. It may be that these were all
from Jeff, it may be that they were unretrieved by the server for some
technical reason, it may be that they have been censored for good or bad
reasons. A
Jeff
Delighted, dear boy. Your new-found concern for res publicae is
meritorious, though some may find it tedious. Should we not do this
privately, to avoid inconveniencing the good people of this list?
Best,
Mark Measday
Jeff Williams wrote:
> Mark and all,
>
> Mark, thank yo
OK, by whom, over what, what shall be the regulations, and what processes? If
they are not those of an international treaty organisation under international
law, or the private 'self-regulation' of ICANN under largely US domestic
oversight, what should they be?
Karl Auerbach wrote:
> > Th
Message not distributed on dnso list, so probably worth reading
Mark Measday wrote:
> Mr. Sondow, Mr. Teernstra and Mr. Gaetano are to be congratulated on their
> positivism.
>
> One would hope that, with the general agreement to adopt Mr. Alvestrand's
> rules of order
The team from Berkman should be congratulated for the highly professional
effort they put in.
Ben Edelman wrote:
>
> The webcast of this morning's Open Meeting of the ICANN Board of Directors
> is complete, and Berkman staff is now preparing for the Names Council
> meeting starting at 2:00 Ea
Tony:
If NSI can use its business model to build the same value for others as
it has done for itself, why the necessary opposition to GAC? They'd do
better to cooperate when the admission policy is sorted out. However,
your point that the laisser-faire governments who by their absence
outnumb
Craig Simon's page gives probably the widest non-partisan listings.
"William X. Walsh" wrote:
> I am working on the links page for the dnspolicy webpage (as well as a
> new layout/design Joop :).
>
> If anyone has suggestions, please email them to me.
>
> If anyone wants to help with keeping the
?? Hypothesis: It's not a question of the networks, it's a question of the legal
frameworks that have jurisdiction in the final analysis over the networks.
Unfortunately, it remains to be proven that the corpus of international and
sovereign law is anything other than public, (in the sense of resp
Tony,
Where can one find the distinction you and others make between public
and
private networks in the regulatory literature, i.e. that p. ex. UIT and
EC have
different frameworks for different entities based on state or private
ownership? If they do, per se?
>From what date was the distinction
Jeff Williams wrote:
> Mark and all,
>
> Youth, Truth and bravery vs age, corruption and treachery!???
> ROFLMAO! That is really good rhetoric there Mark! Nice bit
> of slurring, if I do say so myself. You are right up there with
> "Dcrock"!
>
> Mark
Exactly. But there is nothing other than those vicarious personal
conceptualizations, even if most of them are provably wrong given enough
time and resources. Given the available level of those factors, what
pragmatic solutions would one find? Greg Skinner's acceptance of differences
as a fact of
Jim,
Odd, given your arguments, that, with the good advice Mr B received at the EC,
we do not see him at the helm of some more adventurous venture.
Why would a man so much more in possession of the facts than most choose merely
to learn Spanish at such a high salary when he could have burst from
Jim,
It is a commonplace, I think, that if you can disprove the phone system analogy
below with sufficient force, or a sufficiently powerful replacement analogy, you
win. However, noone has done so. The US PTO, the large telcos, the lawyers and bits
of government involved, have to hang a hook on
Interesting to see further analysis of this. Who prevails and why, etc.
"Richard J. Sexton" wrote:
.
Any serious student of nameing systems used on the
Internet has seen the "control freaks" vs. "the anarchists"
argument happen over and over again - thi
k to being 'customers,' the happier we'll be. I guarantee it.)
Who enforces or guarantees this contract?
Mark Measday
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> to help "manage" the Internet through regulatory edicts that
> governmental bodies themselves couldn't promulgate.
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> --tony
Wasn't that the point? Technologies may change, but people sta
Michael,
Your editorializing seems at variance with the text. Surely the text
should be read as follows, namely that, at face value, the admission
that the Australian government and others are willing to concede
sovereignty to an international private organization, rather than the
treaty organiza
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Mr Madison, I presume?
But why should the business or organizational model be rational, or
rationally reductive to the modern-day equivalent of the preservation of
Virginian property rights?
Few of the existing international organizations function in that manner, if
they did they would be easily
Surely it is the economic liberalism fostered by internet trade in
commerce, ideas and content that means that either the question has
to be answered by global regulation or by some 'unseen hand'. There
was a test conference on racism on the internet sponsored by UNHCHR
in mid-1997 at which th
I asked someone to go off to look at the ICANN website to get the update
on draftguidelines. They came back confused saying they could only
purchase domain names there. There were right.
icann.org may be defending all that is true beautiful and fair, but
icann.de and icann.co.uk appear to be ...t
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