[IFWP] Re: November Cook Report - intro and part 1 ISOC's critical role in enabling ICANN

1999-09-11 Thread Ellen Rony
Dave Farber wrote: If ICANN fails it will be taken as a indicator that the net can not manage itself and we will get "Adult" supervision which believe me we will not like. We must make it work. Mr, Farber. There is room here for a different cause/effect analysis. I posit that if ICANN fails,

Re: [IFWP] Re: November Cook Report - intro and part 1 ISOC's critical role in enabling ICANN

1999-09-11 Thread Jay Fenello
At 07:33 AM 9/11/99 , Ellen Rony wrote: Dave Farber wrote: If ICANN fails it will be taken as a indicator that the net can not manage itself and we will get "Adult" supervision which believe me we will not like. We must make it work. Mr, Farber. There is room here for a different cause/effect

[IFWP] RE: November Cook Report - intro and part 1 ISOC's critical role in enabling ICANN

1999-09-10 Thread Pete Farmer
On Friday, September 10, 1999, Gordon Cook [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] concluded that: ...in fact a collapse of ICANN will best serve those interested in the continued operation of an Internet whose doors are not closed to entrepreneurs and innovators. I don't share Mr. Cook's confidence in

Re: [IFWP] Re: November Cook Report - intro and part 1 ISOC's critical role in enabling ICANN

1999-09-10 Thread Richard J. Sexton
can't believe it is being done for bad or evil purposes.I also repeat something I said on an IP mailing manny moons ago. If ICANN fails it will be taken as a indicator that the net can not manage itself How would we know? It's never been tried. The cabalesque dealings so far, hardly count.

[IFWP] Re: November Cook Report - intro and part 1 ISOC's critical role in enabling ICANN

1999-09-10 Thread Frank Rizzo
At 2:50 PM -0400 9/10/99, David Farber wrote: I have a lot of unhappiness as to how ICANN is evolving but I just can't believe it is being done for bad or evil purposes.I also repeat something I said on an IP mailing manny moons ago. If ICANN fails it will be taken as a indicator that the net can

[IFWP] Re: November Cook Report - intro and part 1 ISOC's critical role in enabling ICANN

1999-09-10 Thread David Farber
I have no argument on this Let us VOTE and push them hard till we get the vote. Seems to me I remember something like a cry "no taxation with out representation" side issue, lobbyists win because they spend time and energy in preparing cases and actionable proposals not because hey shoot up

Re: [IFWP] Re: November Cook Report - intro and part 1 ISOC's critical role in enabling ICANN

1999-09-10 Thread Greg Skinner
[I am not subscribed to all of these lists, so my response will likely bounce. Feel free to copy my response in future responses, if you wish. --gregbo] Frank Rizzo [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Dave, it may not be for "bad or evil" purposes. I agree with you here. But, things are being done for

Re: [IFWP] Re: November Cook Report - intro and part 1 ISOC's critical role in enabling ICANN

1999-09-10 Thread Jeff Williams
Franky and all, Oh no we can't have any of that voting nonsense!!! (Sarcasm intended) Poor old Capt. Roberts would have a stroke! ;) And that would put a damper on his free skiing trips via ICANN. That would be a travisty wouldn't it? Frank Rizzo wrote: At 2:50 PM -0400 9/10/99, David

Re: [IFWP] Re: November Cook Report - intro and part 1 ISOC's critical role in enabling ICANN

1999-09-10 Thread Jeff Williams
Franky and all, Good argument! Unfortunately the ICANN (Initial?) Interim board and the GIP http://www.gip.org know this which is why they have continued to thwart any VOTING from taking place from the Stakeholders. Frank Rizzo wrote: At 12:43 PM -0700 9/10/99, Greg Skinner wrote: Frank

Re: [IFWP] Re: November Cook Report - intro and part 1 ISOC's critical role in enabling ICANN

1999-09-10 Thread Greg Skinner
David Farber [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: side issue, lobbyists win because they spend time and energy in preparing cases and actionable proposals not because hey shoot up everything. (most of the time the money they may cause to get contributed is secondary to this careful spade work) But

Re: [IFWP] Re: November Cook Report - intro and part 1 ISOC's critical role in enabling ICANN

1999-09-10 Thread Jeff Williams
Greg and all, Exactly right regarding Corporations having a better financing to do lobbying collectively or independently. This is why I put together, along with others, INEGroup. We now have the financing to compete with the best of them from a $$ standpoint. Greg Skinner wrote: David

Re: [IFWP] Re: November Cook Report - intro and part 1 ISOC's critical role in enabling ICANN

1999-09-10 Thread Diane Cabell
- intro and part 1 ISOC's critical role in enabling ICANN () Are you sure that a public vote would not have the same results? After all, the people who are lobbying ICANN right now will just directly lobby the government(s) who wind up setting up Internet policy if ICANN falls. I'm all

Re: [IFWP] Re: November Cook Report - intro and part 1 ISOC's critical role in enabling ICANN

1999-09-10 Thread A.M. Rutkowski
At 07:26 PM 9/10/99 , Diane Cabell wrote: The amount of trademark-friendly legislation that has sailed through Congress recently is certainly strong evidence of that. That's entirely separate from "Internet governance." The major intellectual property players in Washington have always played a