Re: [IFWP] Re: November Cook Report - intro and part 1 ISOC's critical role in enabling ICANN

1999-09-11 Thread Jay Fenello
At 07:33 AM 9/11/99 , Ellen Rony wrote: >Dave Farber wrote: >> >> If ICANN fails it >>will be taken as a indicator that the net can not manage itself and >>we will get "Adult" supervision which believe me we will not like. We >>must make it work. >> > >Mr, Farber. There is room here for a differen

[IFWP] Re: November Cook Report - intro and part 1 ISOC's critical role in enabling ICANN

1999-09-11 Thread Ellen Rony
Dave Farber wrote: > > If ICANN fails it >will be taken as a indicator that the net can not manage itself and >we will get "Adult" supervision which believe me we will not like. We >must make it work. > Mr, Farber. There is room here for a different cause/effect analysis. I posit that if ICANN f

Re: [IFWP] Re: November Cook Report - intro and part 1 ISOC's critical role in enabling ICANN

1999-09-10 Thread A.M. Rutkowski
At 07:26 PM 9/10/99 , Diane Cabell wrote: >The amount of trademark-friendly legislation that has sailed through >Congress recently is certainly strong evidence of that. That's entirely separate from "Internet governance." The major intellectual property players in Washington have always played a

Re: [IFWP] Re: November Cook Report - intro and part 1 ISOC's critical role in enabling ICANN

1999-09-10 Thread Diane Cabell
0, 1999 3:43 PM Subject: Re: [IFWP] Re: November Cook Report - intro and part 1 ISOC's critical role in enabling ICANN () > Are you sure that a public vote would not have the same results? > After all, the people who are lobbying ICANN right now will just > directly lobby the governm

Re: [IFWP] Re: November Cook Report - intro and part 1 ISOC's critical role in enabling ICANN

1999-09-10 Thread Jeff Williams
Greg and all, Exactly right regarding Corporations having a better financing to do lobbying collectively or independently. This is why I put together, along with others, INEGroup. We now have the financing to compete with the best of them from a $$ standpoint. Greg Skinner wrote: > David Fa

Re: [IFWP] Re: November Cook Report - intro and part 1 ISOC's critical role in enabling ICANN

1999-09-10 Thread Greg Skinner
David Farber <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > side issue, lobbyists win because they spend time and energy in > preparing cases and actionable proposals not because hey shoot up > everything. (most of the time the money they may cause to get > contributed is secondary to this careful spade work)

Re: [IFWP] Re: November Cook Report - intro and part 1 ISOC's critical role in enabling ICANN

1999-09-10 Thread Jeff Williams
Franky and all, Good argument! Unfortunately the ICANN (Initial?) Interim board and the GIP http://www.gip.org know this which is why they have continued to thwart any VOTING from taking place from the Stakeholders. Frank Rizzo wrote: > At 12:43 PM -0700 9/10/99, Greg Skinner wrote: > >Frank

Re: [IFWP] Re: November Cook Report - intro and part 1 ISOC's critical role in enabling ICANN

1999-09-10 Thread Jeff Williams
Franky and all, Oh no we can't have any of that voting nonsense!!! (Sarcasm intended) Poor old Capt. Roberts would have a stroke! >;) And that would put a damper on his free skiing trips via ICANN. That would be a travisty wouldn't it? Frank Rizzo wrote: > At 2:50 PM -0400 9/10/99, David

Re: [IFWP] Re: November Cook Report - intro and part 1 ISOC's critical role in enabling ICANN

1999-09-10 Thread Greg Skinner
[I am not subscribed to all of these lists, so my response will likely bounce. Feel free to copy my response in future responses, if you wish. --gregbo] Frank Rizzo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >Dave, it may not be for "bad or evil" purposes. I agree with you >here. But, things are being done fo

[IFWP] Re: November Cook Report - intro and part 1 ISOC's critical role in enabling ICANN

1999-09-10 Thread David Farber
I have no argument on this Let us VOTE and push them hard till we get the vote. Seems to me I remember something like a cry "no taxation with out representation" side issue, lobbyists win because they spend time and energy in preparing cases and actionable proposals not because hey shoot up e

[IFWP] Re: November Cook Report - intro and part 1 ISOC's critical role in enabling ICANN

1999-09-10 Thread Frank Rizzo
At 2:50 PM -0400 9/10/99, David Farber wrote: >I have a lot of unhappiness as to how ICANN is evolving but I just >can't believe it is being done for bad or evil purposes.I also repeat >something I said on an IP mailing manny moons ago. If ICANN fails it >will be taken as a indicator that the net

Re: [IFWP] Re: November Cook Report - intro and part 1 ISOC's critical role in enabling ICANN

1999-09-10 Thread Richard J. Sexton
>can't believe it is being done for bad or evil purposes.I also repeat >something I said on an IP mailing manny moons ago. If ICANN fails it >will be taken as a indicator that the net can not manage itself How would we know? It's never been tried. The cabalesque dealings so far, hardly count.

[IFWP] RE: November Cook Report - intro and part 1 ISOC's critical role in enabling ICANN

1999-09-10 Thread Pete Farmer
On Friday, September 10, 1999, Gordon Cook [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] concluded that: >...in fact a collapse of ICANN will best serve those >interested in the continued operation of an Internet >whose doors are not closed to entrepreneurs and innovators. I don't share Mr. Cook's confidence in