[IFWP] Re: You are Turning Away Outside Members Who Attempt To Register

2000-07-31 Thread Greg Skinner
Esther Dyson wrote (in response to Curtis E. Sahakian): > You ask what "excuse" we have. We have a reason: The site is overloaded; we > are getting a much bigger response than we expected. The ICANN staff is > doing what it can to handle the unexpected damand. We have tuned the system > to work

Re: [IFWP] Re: You are Turning Away Outside Members Who Attempt To Register

2000-07-30 Thread Greg Skinner
Kent Crispin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Greg Skinner wrote: >> How can you be sure of this? I can imagine that there are that many >> applicants from the countries you cited that have sufficient understanding >> of the issues ICANN is supposed to be concerned with. > How can you say that wit

Re: [IFWP] Re: You are Turning Away Outside Members Who Attempt To Register

2000-07-30 Thread Kent Crispin
On Sun, Jul 30, 2000 at 11:47:18AM -0700, Greg Skinner wrote: > > How can you be sure of this? I can imagine that there are that many > applicants from the countries you cited that have sufficient understanding > of the issues ICANN is supposed to be concerned with. How can you say that with a

Re: [IFWP] Re: You are Turning Away Outside Members Who Attempt To Register

2000-07-30 Thread Greg Skinner
Kent Crispin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > There is absolutely no way that the 10 applicants are knowledgable > in the matters that ICANN is supposed to be concerned with; the result > is that the election will be campaigned on the basis of pure populist > politics. How can you be sure of thi

[IFWP] Re: You are Turning Away Outside Members Who Attempt To Register

2000-07-29 Thread Michael Sondow
Diane Cabell wrote: > > Online identities can be spoofed... (etc., etc.) Hi, Diane! Still at it, fronting for ICANN and the Berkman Center in this At-large hoax? Good girl! Tell us, is the At-large now a "constituency", as Greg Crew has said? Will there actually be At-large directors, or will y

Re: [IFWP] Re: You are Turning Away Outside Members Who Attempt To Register

2000-07-29 Thread Myron Wheeler
Please get me off this list-please? TNX At 02:08 PM 07/28/2000 -0700, you wrote: >On Fri, Jul 28, 2000 at 12:54:32PM -0700, Bret Fausett wrote: >> >> To the extent that the late registrations are coming predominately from >> >> China (as I have seen reported) or non-English speaking and/or emerg

Re: [IFWP] Re: You are Turning Away Outside Members Who Attempt To Register

2000-07-29 Thread Myron Wheeler
Please get me off this list. TNX! At 12:18 PM 07/28/2000 -0700, you wrote: >On Fri, Jul 28, 2000 at 10:53:42AM -0700, Bret Fausett wrote: >> Esther Dyson wrote: >> > .We are not turning away particular groups >> > of people; our system is simply rejecting attempts randomly. >> > Thi

Re: [IFWP] Re: You are Turning Away Outside Members Who Attempt To Register

2000-07-29 Thread Michael Sondow
Jay Fenello wrote: > > [Even if you are given a vote in the at-Large membership, > ICANN has taken away your right to be a member. This legal That is correct. The fundamental power and authority of mebership is the right to vote on the bylaws of the organization. The ICANN board has denied this

[IFWP] Re: You are Turning Away Outside Members Who Attempt To Register

2000-07-29 Thread Jay Fenello
Hi Curtis, You are asking some good questions about some basics philosophies behind the design and structure of ICANN :-) By all appearances, the people behind ICANN don't want voting, they don't want representation, and they don't want to do anything that would jeopardize their total control

[IFWP] Re: You are Turning Away Outside Members Who Attempt To Register

2000-07-28 Thread Kent Crispin
On Fri, Jul 28, 2000 at 11:12:32PM -0400, Curtis E. Sahakian wrote: [...] > My understanding was that your staff was hoping that no more > than 10,000 people would register. The staff wasn't "hoping" any such thing. The number 5000 was generated after input from the membership advisory committee

Re: [IFWP] Re: You are Turning Away Outside Members Who Attempt To Register

2000-07-28 Thread Kent Crispin
On Fri, Jul 28, 2000 at 12:54:32PM -0700, Bret Fausett wrote: > >> To the extent that the late registrations are coming predominately from > >> China (as I have seen reported) or non-English speaking and/or emerging > >> nations -- where information about ICANN may have been slow to reach > >> pot

Re: [IFWP] Re: You are Turning Away Outside Members Who Attempt To Register

2000-07-28 Thread Kent Crispin
On Fri, Jul 28, 2000 at 10:53:42AM -0700, Bret Fausett wrote: > Esther Dyson wrote: > > .We are not turning away particular groups > > of people; our system is simply rejecting attempts randomly. > > This is more like a traffic jam with too-small roads, not > > any kind of selection p

Re: [IFWP] Re: You are Turning Away Outside Members Who Attempt To Register

2000-07-28 Thread Bret A. Fausett
Esther Dyson wrote: > .We are not turning away particular groups > of people; our system is simply rejecting attempts randomly. > This is more like a traffic jam with too-small roads, not > any kind of selection process or discrimination. BUT: To the extent that the late registratio

Re: [IFWP] Re: You are Turning Away Outside Members Who Attempt To Register

2000-07-28 Thread Esther Dyson
Believe me, we have considered this, and many other options as well! The level of interest has simply taken us by surprise. The problem is that a delay would then be "unfair" to those who tried and didn't know about the extended deadline, and so forth and so on. Meanwhile, that would mean delayi

[IFWP] Re: You are Turning Away Outside Members Who Attempt To Register

2000-07-28 Thread Mikki Barry
Esther - Given the overload with the server and the other technical issues, wouldn't it be prudent to extend the deadline for voter registration to give another chance to those who have been unable to access it?

[IFWP] Re: You are Turning Away Outside Members Who Attempt To Register

2000-07-28 Thread Esther Dyson
Curtis - I am ready to resign when appropriate, but in this case it is not. You ask what "excuse" we have. We have a reason: The site is overloaded; we are getting a much bigger response than we expected. The ICANN staff is doing what it can to handle the unexpected damand. We have tuned the sy