Re: [pfSense] pfsense h/w

2014-10-24 Thread Josh Reynolds
I'm very intrigued as to what happened with UBNThere, as Robert, Stig, and An-Cheng's phone numbers are all in my contact list. I've called them out on concerns over their gpl tarball and (fairly recent) lack of SDK as well, but then again, I've also called out MikroTik... which they've

Re: [pfSense] pfsense h/w

2014-10-24 Thread Adam Thompson
[One public correction, nothing to do with Godwin's law! -Adam] On 14-10-23 08:36 PM, Jim Thompson wrote: Not that UBNT is a paragon of openness, either, “either”? Wow. Strike 2. That wasn't a dig at you or ESF or NG - I was thinking of Brocade when I wrote that. I could also use UBNT's

Re: [pfSense] pfsense h/w

2014-10-24 Thread Ryan Coleman
I presume UBNT is Ubiquiti? I'm probably going to start testing their hardware for other applications (I work in the video surveillance industry as well as high capacity wifi) and I'd be curious to get some pros/cons from those who know... so please email me off list (so as not to offend the

Re: [pfSense] pfsense h/w

2014-10-24 Thread Josh Reynolds
I am the CIO of a WISP who uses their products, and does a lot of alpha/beta testing for them and other vendors... I may be a little biased. The M series gear is pretty good kit for point to point or point to multi point applications. AirFiber is great for ~10 mile or less shots, with

Re: [pfSense] pfsense h/w

2014-10-24 Thread Jim Thompson
This list is not about Ubiquiti. (At least not until we make pfSense available on Ubiquiti platforms.) Please take the discussion elsewhere. jim On Oct 24, 2014, at 12:38 PM, Josh Reynolds j...@spitwspots.com wrote: I am the CIO of a WISP who uses their products, and does a lot of

Re: [pfSense] pfsense h/w

2014-10-24 Thread Josh Reynolds
Shouldn't the EdgeRouter lite support pfsense with the 2.2 release? Your own post: When what I'm trying to do is make pfSense available on an inexpensive platform. It should perform better than an Alix, even without the private-SDK stunts. Jim from:

Re: [pfSense] pfsense h/w

2014-10-24 Thread Jim Thompson
Josh, First, did you not read the part where I said, (At least not until we make pfSense available on Ubiquiti platforms.)” ?? Note that I’ve *always* said that pfSense software on the ERL will occur *after* (emphasis: **AFTER**) the regular 2.2 release. WAIT, BACK UP. DID YOU READ THE AFTER

Re: [pfSense] pfsense h/w

2014-10-24 Thread Josh Reynolds
You said it, man. Nobody fucks with the Jesus. Josh Reynolds, Chief Information Officer SPITwSPOTS, www.spitwspots.com http://www.spitwspots.com On 10/24/2014 02:54 PM, Jim Thompson wrote: Josh, First, did you not read the part where I said, (At least not until we make pfSense available on

Re: [pfSense] pfsense h/w

2014-10-24 Thread Ryan Coleman
I did ask the reply to be off-list… On Oct 24, 2014, at 17:57, Josh Reynolds j...@spitwspots.com wrote: You said it, man. Nobody fucks with the Jesus. Josh Reynolds, Chief Information Officer SPITwSPOTS, www.spitwspots.com http://www.spitwspots.com/On 10/24/2014 02:54 PM, Jim Thompson

Re: [pfSense] pfsense h/w

2014-10-24 Thread Josh Reynolds
It's not your fault, it's my fault. I made an apparently poor assumption that the info might be useful to people on this list in a small-blurb format. Useful or not, it caused extra background noise. I'd perfer to let this /offtopic end, if you will. Josh Reynolds, Chief Information Officer

Re: [pfSense] pfsense h/w

2014-10-23 Thread Chris Bagnall
I'm suffering in my efforts to install 2.1.5 onto my box, so can I change the box? A proven hardware platform, available in the UK with at least 6 physical network ports, I can probably justify buying. Suggestions anyone? We’ve used these:

Re: [pfSense] pfsense h/w

2014-10-23 Thread Nick Upson
Hi Chris I'm trying to use a http://www.mini-itx.com/store/~FX5624 which I think is the same box as your first link, if you can install onto here easily and frequently then it must be me doing something wrong, aaagh Nick Upson, Telensa Ltd, Senior Operations Network Engineer direct +44 (0) 1799

Re: [pfSense] pfsense h/w

2014-10-23 Thread Chris Bagnall
I'm trying to use a http://www.mini-itx.com/store/~FX5624 which I think is the same box as your first link, if you can install onto here easily and frequently then it must be me doing something wrong, aaagh Certainly looks like the same unit. Are you trying to install onto a CF card (those

Re: [pfSense] pfsense h/w

2014-10-23 Thread Nick Upson
I'm trying to do a full install onto HDD, but I never get that far, I have been unable to get the box to boot pfsense from stick or cd so that I can install onto the HDD I did try a CF card, that started to boot but immediatley hung I thought there was a very large restriction in packages using

Re: [pfSense] pfsense h/w

2014-10-23 Thread Chris Bagnall
I thought there was a very large restriction in packages using CF compared to HDD, is that not the case (I'm coming from 1.2.3 so this might have changed) That may well be true - I must confess I’m of the school of thought that a firewall/router should do firewalling and routing, and not a

Re: [pfSense] pfsense h/w

2014-10-23 Thread Zia Nayamuth
Lots of suggestions on the hardware, but I see nobody mention anything based around the new and much more powerful Avoton platform. The platform is officially supported, and the pfSense store has hardware based on it (looks to be the Supermicro 5018A-FTN4, The Supermicro 5018A-FTN4 server

Re: [pfSense] pfsense h/w

2014-10-23 Thread Nick Upson
my aim in using the CF card was to see if there was any functionality I need missing I run a mixed environment but I don't have a unix machine with a CF drive Nick Upson, Telensa Ltd, Senior Operations Network Engineer direct +44 (0) 1799 533252, support hotline +44 (0) 1799 399200 On 23

Re: [pfSense] pfsense h/w

2014-10-23 Thread Jim Thompson
On Oct 23, 2014, at 5:18 AM, Zia Nayamuth zedestruc...@gmail.com wrote: Lots of suggestions on the hardware, but I see nobody mention anything based around the new and much more powerful Avoton platform. The platform is officially supported, and the pfSense store has hardware based on it

Re: [pfSense] pfsense h/w

2014-10-23 Thread Adam Thompson
One nit: yes, I can sell something called pfSense, as that's the freely-downloadable software under a (IIRC) BSD license. I can't sell something called NetGate. I can't produce a derivative work and call it pfSense. (This is a gray area, admittedly.) But, at least here, I'm quite sure I can

Re: [pfSense] pfsense h/w

2014-10-23 Thread Jim Thompson
Adam, (Three people rushed to my office, saying, “Here we go again!”) There is a metaphor I like to use to explain the situation, it is roughly this: Can you buy a bottle of Coca-Cola, and then sell or give it to someone else? Yes you can. Without getting too deep into the

Re: [pfSense] pfsense h/w

2014-10-23 Thread Chris L
On Oct 23, 2014, at 9:06 AM, Jim Thompson j...@netgate.com wrote: We don't release the tuning info, and, incredibly, a couple people a month write in demanding it. Does this mean there’s a special, hardware-specific version of pfSense (or a package or ?) or is the tuning in the hardware

Re: [pfSense] pfsense h/w

2014-10-23 Thread Adam Thompson
On 14-10-23 03:06 PM, Chris L wrote: We don't release the tuning info, and, incredibly, a couple people a month write in demanding it. Does this mean there’s a special, hardware-specific version of pfSense (or a package or ?) or is the tuning in the hardware itself? AFAIK it's the same

Re: [pfSense] pfsense h/w

2014-10-23 Thread Chris L
On Oct 23, 2014, at 1:13 PM, Adam Thompson athom...@athompso.net wrote: On 14-10-23 03:06 PM, Chris L wrote: We don't release the tuning info, and, incredibly, a couple people a month write in demanding it. Does this mean there’s a special, hardware-specific version of pfSense (or a

Re: [pfSense] pfsense h/w

2014-10-23 Thread Adam Thompson
On 14-10-23 04:29 PM, Chris L wrote: I’m not asking what the changes are - I’m asking if these boxes require a special version of pfSense for maximum performance. I can't answer that with 100% certainty, but I believe the packaging is tweaked slightly. Whether you call that a special version

Re: [pfSense] pfsense h/w

2014-10-23 Thread Jim Thompson
On Oct 23, 2014, at 4:42 PM, Adam Thompson athom...@athompso.net wrote: On 14-10-23 04:29 PM, Chris L wrote: I’m not asking what the changes are - I’m asking if these boxes require a special version of pfSense for maximum performance. I can't answer that with 100% certainty, but I believe

Re: [pfSense] pfsense h/w

2014-10-23 Thread Adam Thompson
[Hmm... half of this doesn't need to be on-list. Sorry if I'm polluting. -Adam] On 14-10-23 05:57 PM, Jim Thompson wrote: I get that Jim rubs a lot of people the wrong way (myself included), Darn, you’d think that sharing a last name would count for something... Sorry, no. ;-) Kind of in

Re: [pfSense] pfsense h/w

2014-10-23 Thread Jim Thompson
On Oct 23, 2014, at 7:48 PM, Adam Thompson athom...@athompso.net wrote: [Hmm... half of this doesn't need to be on-list. Sorry if I'm polluting. -Adam] On 14-10-23 05:57 PM, Jim Thompson wrote: I get that Jim rubs a lot of people the wrong way (myself included), Darn, you’d think

[pfSense] pfsense h/w

2014-10-22 Thread Nick Upson
I'm suffering in my efforts to install 2.1.5 onto my box, so can I change the box? A proven hardware platform, available in the UK with at least 6 physical network ports, I can probably justify buying. Suggestions anyone? Nick Upson, Telensa Ltd, Senior Operations Network Engineer direct +44

Re: [pfSense] pfsense h/w

2014-10-22 Thread Nick Upson
thanks for the suggestion but The web page at *http://onset.eu/ http://onset.eu/* might be temporarily down or it may have moved permanently to a new web address. Error code: ERR_NAME_RESOLUTION_FAILED Nick Upson, Telensa Ltd, Senior Operations Network Engineer direct +44 (0) 1799 533252,

Re: [pfSense] pfsense h/w

2014-10-22 Thread compdoc
A proven hardware platform, available in the UK with at least 6 physical network ports, I can probably justify buying Not much info. Got an url for that? ___ List mailing list List@lists.pfsense.org

Re: [pfSense] pfsense h/w

2014-10-22 Thread Nick Upson
I'm asking for suggestions that fit those criteria, except for the pfsense-proven my present box fits it Nick Upson, Telensa Ltd, Senior Operations Network Engineer direct +44 (0) 1799 533252, support hotline +44 (0) 1799 399200 On 22 October 2014 16:50, compdoc comp...@hotrodpc.com wrote: A

Re: [pfSense] pfsense h/w

2014-10-22 Thread Jim Thompson
Seems up now. I’ve let Gregory know that there may have been an issue. http://www.osnet.eu/en/products/FWA http://www.osnet.eu/en/products/FWA On Oct 22, 2014, at 10:07 AM, Nick Upson n...@telensa.com wrote: thanks for the suggestion but The web page at http://onset.eu/

Re: [pfSense] pfsense h/w

2014-10-22 Thread Chris Buechler
On Wed, Oct 22, 2014 at 11:29 AM, Jim Thompson j...@smallworks.com wrote: Seems up now. I’ve let Gregory know that there may have been an issue. http://www.osnet.eu/en/products/FWA Pretty sure Jim got auto-corrected originally, it's osnet.eu as linked there, not onset from the original.

Re: [pfSense] pfsense h/w

2014-10-22 Thread Jim Thompson
On Oct 22, 2014, at 12:10 PM, Chris Buechler c...@pfsense.com wrote: On Wed, Oct 22, 2014 at 11:29 AM, Jim Thompson j...@smallworks.com wrote: Seems up now. I’ve let Gregory know that there may have been an issue. http://www.osnet.eu/en/products/FWA Pretty sure Jim got