Re: [WSG] I Hate Internet Explorer Pt 2

2006-09-13 Thread Lachlan Hunt
Germ wrote: Ok now its my turn to grib about Internet Explorer ... PS: Is there an online petition to ban IE?? This list is not for IE bashing. We're all aware of the fact that IE has some serious limitations and many of us have to deal with them everyday. However, venting your frustration

RE: [WSG] I Hate Internet Explorer Pt 2

2006-09-13 Thread Kepler Gelotte
ONE: I have a min width but it doesnt work in explorer so the right flash file drops down when its minimised. Since IE 6.0 doesn't support min-width, you need to use (a CSS invalid) expression: min-width: 800px; width: width:expression((document.documentElement.offsetWidth

Re: [WSG] I Hate Internet Explorer Pt 2

2006-09-13 Thread pdr Lists
On 13-Sep-2006, at 15:37 , Germ wrote: PS: Is there an online petition to ban IE?? Kind of ... I place a link to this site on every page I build ... just to try and get some awareness happening in the general community ... http://browsehappy.com/ Hopefully things will be much

Re: [WSG] I Hate Internet Explorer Pt 2

2006-09-13 Thread Hrvoje Markovic
Is there somewhere a list of what/how IE interperates html/css differently from, let's say Firefox? And how to make a page work in both? _ FREE pop-up blocking with the new MSN Toolbar - get it now!

Re: [WSG] I Hate Internet Explorer Pt 2

2006-09-13 Thread Germ
Germ wrote: Ok now its my turn to grib about Internet Explorer ... PS: Is there an online petition to ban IE??This list is not for IE bashing.We're all aware of the fact that IEhas some serious limitations and many of us have to deal with themeveryday.However, venting your frustration publicly

Re: [WSG] Internet Explorer I Hate You! (Having some problems)

2006-09-13 Thread Jixor - Stephen I
Kepler Gelotte wrote: Firstly I have a large area of content that is simply disappearing, its not floated or positioned either. This is on the menus page ( http://dev.riverhousecatering.com/?mgx=page/menu ) Secondly on the menu pages randomly some of the content is shifted down about

RE: [WSG] I Hate Internet Explorer Pt 2

2006-09-13 Thread Chris Williams
Sure. http://css-discuss.incutio.com/ -Original Message- From: Hrvoje Markovic Subject: Re: [WSG] I Hate Internet Explorer Pt 2 Is there somewhere a list of what/how IE interperates html/css differently from, let's say Firefox? And how to make a page work in both?

Re: [WSG] Internet Explorer I Hate You! (Having some problems)

2006-09-13 Thread Terrence Wood
Great subject =) kind regards Terrence Wood. *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: [WSG] I Hate Internet Explorer Pt 2

2006-09-13 Thread Germ
So dumb question...does that go in the style sheet? I ask because I added it and it didnt work. also the code below goes on one line right? Since IE 6.0 doesn't support min-width, you need to use (a CSS invalid)_expression_:min-width: 800px;width:

Re: [WSG] I Hate Internet Explorer Pt 2

2006-09-13 Thread Lachlan Hunt
Hrvoje Markovic wrote: Is there somewhere a list of what/how IE interperates html/css differently from, let's say Firefox? And how to make a page work in both? http://positioniseverything.net/explorer.html -- Lachlan Hunt http://lachy.id.au/

RE: [WSG] I Hate Internet Explorer Pt 2

2006-09-13 Thread Kepler Gelotte
So dumb question... does that go in the style sheet? I ask because I added it and it didnt work. also the code below goes on one line right?   Sorry I had a typo. It should be: #container { min-width: 800px; width:expression((document.documentElement.offsetWidth 820)? 800px:

Re: [WSG] I Hate Internet Explorer Pt 2

2006-09-13 Thread Germ
hey thanks alot for thatI looked at the http://css-discuss.incutio.com/?page=MinWidth page but the code you gave me is definatly better and easier to add into the style sheet Thanks alot to peoples help and comments and the links to the other pages about the quirks of IE etcOn 9/13/06, Kepler

Re: [WSG] I Hate Internet Explorer Pt 2

2006-09-13 Thread Matthew Pennell
On 9/13/06, Kepler Gelotte [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Since IE 6.0 doesn't support min-width, you need to use (a CSS invalid) expression: You can also fake min-width without using invalid CSS: http://www.cssplay.co.uk/boxes/minwidth.html http://www.cssplay.co.uk/boxes/width.html

[WSG] Developers wanted - London UK

2006-09-13 Thread Anthony Green
The Radio and Music department at the BBC in London (UK) is looking for web standards developers For more information go to: https://jobs.bbc.co.uk/jobportal/search/vacancy.aspx?id=9964 Anthony Green http://www.bbc.co.uk/ This e-mail (and any attachments) is confidential and may contain

[WSG] parsing microformats

2006-09-13 Thread Ross Bruniges
Hey guys, Am wondering if any guys can help me with a little problem I am trying to solve in regard to parsing a bunch of vevents I have marked up and am trying to get into peoples outlook2003 calenders here at work. I have managed to get all events to export into an .ics file via the

Re: [WSG] parsing microformats

2006-09-13 Thread russ - maxdesign
Am wondering if any guys can help me with a little problem I am trying to solve in regard to parsing a bunch of vevents I have marked up and am trying to get into peoples outlook2003 calenders here at work. Ross, if you don't have any luck here, you can always try the microformats-discuss

Re: [WSG] parsing microformats

2006-09-13 Thread Ross Bruniges
Excellent stuff - I knew there was something I was missing and that makes perfect sense. I'll give it a try ASAP! Thanks very much for the help Drew. And thanks very much for the heads-up on the extra list Russ, much appreciated. - Original Message From: Drew McLellan [EMAIL

[WSG] How to align images at the *bottom* with CSS?

2006-09-13 Thread Antonio
Hi everybody, I have a block with an smaller image inside. I'd liked to align the image at the *bottom* of the block... How can I do it with CSS? Thanks for your help! Antonio *** List Guidelines:

Re: [WSG] How to align images at the *bottom* with CSS?

2006-09-13 Thread Matthew Pennell
On 9/13/06, Antonio [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have a block with an smaller image inside. I'd liked to align the image at the *bottom* of the block... How can I do it with CSS? #block { position: relative; } #block img { position: absolute; bottom: 0; }

Re: [WSG] How to align images at the *bottom* with CSS?

2006-09-13 Thread Tom Livingston
On 9/13/06 12:16 PM, Antonio [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have a block with an smaller image inside. I'd liked to align the image at the *bottom* of the block... How can I do it with CSS? If it is not important content - important info as opposed to just decorative - make it a background

Re: [WSG] I Hate Internet Explorer Pt 2

2006-09-13 Thread Tom Livingston
On 9/13/06 2:25 AM, Kepler Gelotte [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Since IE 6.0 doesn't support min-width, you need to use (a CSS invalid) expression: min-width: 800px; width: width:expression((document.documentElement.offsetWidth 820)? 800px: auto ); Couldn't you just use 'height' ? I

Re: [WSG] I Hate Internet Explorer Pt 2

2006-09-13 Thread Tony Crockford
Tom Livingston wrote: On 9/13/06 2:25 AM, Kepler Gelotte [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Since IE 6.0 doesn't support min-width, you need to use (a CSS invalid) expression: min-width: 800px; width: width:expression((document.documentElement.offsetWidth 820)? 800px: auto ); Couldn't you just use

Re: [WSG] I Hate Internet Explorer Pt 2

2006-09-13 Thread Tom Livingston
On 9/13/06 1:17 PM, Tony Crockford [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: well you could, but setting height isn't going to help with width is it? ;) ...morecoffeecan'tfindmug. DOH! -- Tom Livingston | Senior Multimedia Artist | Media Logic | ph: 518.456.3015x231 | fx:

RE: [WSG] How to align images at the *bottom* with CSS?

2006-09-13 Thread Ted Drake
Try vertical-align:bottom As in p img {vertical-align:bottom} Ted -Original Message- Hi everybody, I have a block with an smaller image inside. I'd liked to align the image at the *bottom* of the block... How can I do it with CSS? Thanks for your help! Antonio

[WSG] Safari filter

2006-09-13 Thread Kenny Graham
A site I'm working on has both a screen and a handheld stylesheet. Safari is loading them both, which is causing some major problems. The site is served as xhtml, and the stylesheets are loaded by PIs. Is there any way to filter out the handheld stylesheet from Safari?

Re: [WSG] Safari filter

2006-09-13 Thread Al Sparber
A site I'm working on has both a screen and a handheld stylesheet. Safari is loading them both, which is causing some major problems. The site is served as xhtml, and the stylesheets are loaded by PIs. Is there any way to filter out the handheld stylesheet from Safari? Safari is a decent

Re: Re: [WSG] Safari filter

2006-09-13 Thread Kenny Graham
I believe that if you order your style sheets, thusly, it might work around the bug: 1. handheld 2. screen It changes quite a bit, but still is messed up. The handheld sheet styles elements that are unstyled in the screen sheet. I could probably fix it by doing the handheld sheet first as

Re: Re: [WSG] Safari filter

2006-09-13 Thread Al Sparber
I believe that if you order your style sheets, thusly, it might work around the bug: 1. handheld 2. screen It changes quite a bit, but still is messed up. Gotta love those guys :-) If you can, post a link to the page, I'd like to test it in Safari on Panther to see if that version has

Re: [WSG] Safari filter

2006-09-13 Thread Al Sparber
FWIW, my experience is that you won't get very far using media types for applying screen versus handheld styles anyway. Internet Explorer Mobile, for one, will load both screen and handheld media types, and a communication from a member of the Windows Mobile team told me that this was by

[WSG] vert shift in IE *some* of the time...

2006-09-13 Thread Bekka Borg
I'm working on a new site that has a content shift down some/most of the time when you load/reload a page. But not all the time. And not the entire page. The left column seems stable. This happens in IE 6.0, beta IE 7, and Opera 9.1 on the PC, but *not* in Firefox 1.5.0.6 on the PC. And

Re: [WSG] How to align images at the *bottom* with CSS?

2006-09-13 Thread Antonio
Thank you very much Matthew, Tom and Ted for your answer. The Matthew's solution is OK for me. ;-) Antonio Le 13 sept. 06 à 19:05, Matthew Pennell a écrit : On 9/13/06, Antonio [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have a block with an smaller image inside. I'd liked to align the image at the *bottom*

Re: Re: [WSG] Safari filter

2006-09-13 Thread Kenny Graham
FWIW, my experience is that you won't get very far using media types for applying screen versus handheld styles anyway. Internet Explorer Mobile, for one, My Samsung A900's ugly default browser uses handheld stylesheets pretty much flawlessly, seems to just love the xhtml mime type... it just

Re: Re: [WSG] Safari filter

2006-09-13 Thread Al Sparber
If you can, post a link to the page, I'd like to test it in Safari on Panther to see if that version has issues too. http://www.kennygraham.net/wsg_cssd/safaribug/ Fails on Panther Safari (1.3.2) too. Passes on Camino, Firefox, and Opera.

Re: Re: [WSG] Safari filter

2006-09-13 Thread Al Sparber
On a conventional xhtml page, this passes in Safari: style type=text/css media=handheld h1 {color: #FF;} /style style type=text/css media=handheld @import url(kenny.css); /style link href=kenny.css rel=stylesheet type=text/css media=handheld / The external sheets contain one rule: h1

RE: [WSG] vert shift in IE *some* of the time...

2006-09-13 Thread Kepler Gelotte
I'm working on a new site that has a content shift down some/most of the time when you load/reload a page. But not all the time. Hi Bekka, It appears to be caused by the nifty.js and your windows.onLoad() function to Round() the box corners. I would try a different javascript to round the

Re: [WSG] Safari filter

2006-09-13 Thread Nick Fitzsimons
On 13 Sep 2006, at 20:11, Al Sparber wrote: FWIW, my experience is that you won't get very far using media types for applying screen versus handheld styles anyway. Internet Explorer Mobile, for one, will load both screen and handheld media types, and a communication from a member of

RE: [WSG] How to align images at the *bottom* with CSS?

2006-09-13 Thread Ted Drake
My suggestion ( p img {vertical-align:bottom }) makes it easier to align an image with a string of text. Matthew's is better for placing an image in a block, which is what your were asking for. However, I’d suggest avoid vague positioning. i.e. don’t use background-position:bottom. Use

Re: [WSG] Safari filter

2006-09-13 Thread Nick Fitzsimons
On 13 Sep 2006, at 20:57, Kenny Graham wrote: FWIW, my experience is that you won't get very far using media types for applying screen versus handheld styles anyway. Internet Explorer Mobile, for one, My Samsung A900's ugly default browser uses handheld stylesheets pretty much flawlessly,

[WSG] textarea wrap attribute

2006-09-13 Thread Pierre-Henri Lavigne
Yellow all ! I would like to know please how you are using the css property overflow to avoid the wrap=virtual attribute in xhtml 1.0 strict. I'm trusting css but I'm not shure I'm using it well. Maybe you are using an other css property. Even if the Web is a chaosmosis, it will not be an

Re: [WSG] textarea wrap attribute

2006-09-13 Thread Lachlan Hunt
Pierre-Henri Lavigne wrote: I would like to know please how you are using the css property overflow to avoid the wrap=virtual attribute in xhtml 1.0 strict. What exactly does wrap=virtual supposedly do? I could not find any documentation for the value that described its purpose. None of my

Re: [WSG] Safari filter

2006-09-13 Thread Kenny Graham
If it's for your own site then you might as well just do what works for you, but if it's a commercial site, or something you're doing for a client, I'm afraid you're in for a world of pain :-( Luckilly it's a semi-personal site. It's an interface for a database used by me and a large group of

Re: [WSG] Safari filter

2006-09-13 Thread Philippe Wittenbergh
On Sep 14, 2006, at 10:32 AM, Kenny Graham wrote: If it's for your own site then you might as well just do what works for you, but if it's a commercial site, or something you're doing for a client, I'm afraid you're in for a world of pain :-( Luckilly it's a semi-personal site. It's an

Re: [WSG] Internet Explorer I Hate You! (Having some problems)

2006-09-13 Thread Jixor - Stephen I
Jixor - Stephen I wrote: Ok I'm having a few problems with internet explorer. This is the site I'm working on: http://dev.riverhousecatering.com/ Its not the most pretty site in the world but I'm sure you'll get over it. Anyway... Firstly I have a large area of content that is simply

RE: [WSG] Internet Explorer I Hate You! (Having some problems)

2006-09-13 Thread Kepler Gelotte
So has anyone been able to reproduce the randomly jumping around elements, or even know of such a bug? Can you give a specific example? I don't see what the issue is myself. Is it really random? Do you refresh the screen and see a different layout?

Re: [WSG] Safari filter

2006-09-13 Thread Terrence Wood
On 14/09/2006, at 7:05 AM, Nick Fitzsimons wrote: On 13 Sep 2006, at 18:46, Kenny Graham wrote: Internet Explorer Mobile, for one, will load both screen and handheld media types Unless use specify Screen apparently. kind regards Terrence Wood.