Re: [WSG] Fieldset but no legend

2006-11-30 Thread Gaspar
form id=seek action=seek.php method=post fieldset label for=seektextSeek: /label input name=seektext id=seektext type=text / input type=submit value=sök / /fieldset /form A few days ago i have the same problem, legend or not legend, sow i think if fieldset are to allows

CLOSED Re: [WSG] PhP Form Mail Script

2006-11-30 Thread James Ellis
Marvin, The WSG list isn't for discussing client or server side scripting. The list guidelines discuss what is applicable for this list. Cheers James Admin. On 11/30/06, marvin hunkin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi. do you know of any php accessible and java script mailling lists. if so let me

Re: [WSG] Fieldset but no legend

2006-11-30 Thread Barney Carroll
Gaspar wrote: How can i group just one single input? i think there's no reason to do that, sow i removed the fieldset and just use the label for the input. am i right or not? For my own tuppence, I'd say there's no reason for it. I'm almost certain I've seen pages adorned with every kind of

Re: [WSG] Fieldset but no legend

2006-11-30 Thread James Ellis
Hmm, I've found this not to work in Firefox.. doesn't seem to allow legends to be positioned off screen. display:none works but that defeats the purpose entirely. I've found legends very difficult to be styled cross browser - dumping the legend and using a heading tag will allow much easier

Re: [WSG] Accessible Tables

2006-11-30 Thread Gaspar
Hello, I just cant remember who call to definition list dl as description list. I would use a dl dt dd to your Actors Name list, i know that you can call as tabular data but in that case i think is better a dl If u prefer table u can use table summary= caption/caption thead trth id=actorActor

Re: [WSG] Fieldset but no legend

2006-11-30 Thread John Faulds
I just ran a form with a xhtml strict doctype and no legend thru the W3C validator and it didn't complain..? XHTML strict won't but HTML strict will. -- Tyssen Design www.tyssendesign.com.au Ph: (07) 3300 3303 Mb: 0405 678 590

Re: [WSG] scaling in ems broken in i.e

2006-11-30 Thread Felix Miata
On 2006/11/30 14:07 (GMT) ed radford apparently typed: i am currently working on a simple site and thought it to be a good opertunity to try and implement some image and text scaling using ems. have got everything working fine on safari and such but the design gets completely broken in

Re: [WSG] Fieldset but no legend

2006-11-30 Thread Mike at Green-Beast.com
I had written: fieldset { border : 0; } legend { position : absolute ; top : -9000px; left : -9000px; } James wrote: [...] doesn't seem to allow legends to be positioned off screen [...] Whoops, I did not know this. Sorry. I've found legends very difficult to be styled cross

Re: [WSG] Fieldset but no legend

2006-11-30 Thread russ - maxdesign
[...] doesn't seem to allow legends to be positioned off screen [...] Whoops, I did not know this. Sorry. That's the truth! I use them but I do allow for some cross-browser variances. They aren't a mandatory element, but they *can* be helpful, especially for complex forms. I think a

Re: [WSG] i have a javascript problem

2006-11-30 Thread Dwain Alford
i'm not quite sure what you mean here. the revised original menu listed all of the main links in a tree(?). what i want to do is hide the subnav parts and have them exposed on hover. now what you are saying, i think, is that this is not a user friendly way to do the vertical menu. the menu in

Re: [WSG] Flash is more accessible than CSS?

2006-11-30 Thread Leslie Riggs
Hi All, Just my penneth worth. I have always said anything that needs a plugin is automaticaly un-accessable. Trevor. *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe:

Re: [WSG] Flash is more accessible than CSS?

2006-11-30 Thread stevegreen
That's not taking things to an extreme - it's a totally different argument altogether. A screen reader is a user agent, not a plug-in. A person uses a screen reader because they want or have to, not because of the technologies used to build the websites they view. That's totally different from

Re: [WSG] i have a javascript problem

2006-11-30 Thread Dwain Alford
ah ha, onclick. i like that. so i guess i go borrow your code? is there js involved? there doesn't seem to be any here, yes? thanks, this is a terrific solution and i think it works better for me. dwain On 11/30/06, Thierry Koblentz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Dwain Alford wrote: i'm not

Re: [WSG] i have a javascript problem

2006-11-30 Thread Thierry Koblentz
Dwain Alford wrote: ah ha, onclick. i like that. so i guess i go borrow your code? is there js involved? there doesn't seem to be any here, yes? Yes, it is needed to reveal the sub-menus, and to create the skip links, but it is unobtrusive and it degrades well (the menu expands if there is

Re: [WSG] Flash is more accessible than CSS?

2006-11-30 Thread Leslie Riggs
You're talking to someone who deals with accessibility frustrations every single day of her life. I'd sure like to see that all spoken audio in electronic media (video games, video clips of newscasts on the Internet, etc.) be captioning/subtitling-enabled (can be turned on or off by the

Re: [WSG] Flash is more accessible than CSS?

2006-11-30 Thread stevegreen
I totally agree with your point about accessible content, which is why we have contributed towards Joe Clark's micropatronage project to raise money for research into the production of standards, training and certification schemes for captioning, audio description, subtitling, and dubbing.

Re: [WSG] xhtm 1.1 and Ruby annotations

2006-11-30 Thread Scott Tankard
Yes, although I think a more to the point of his question is why such sites render even when served as xhtml. Tee, the problem is quite complicated and would take quite a few words to explain fully, however what follows are the bare basics. When viewing an xhtml page with an xhtml doctype

Re: [WSG] Flash is more accessible than CSS?

2006-11-30 Thread Tim
I have found companies and governments to be totally unresponsive to standards. In the USA esp. target, but also Walmart etc. The American government couldn't care less. Most sites fail S.508 testing even their best Ivy league Universities.

Re: [WSG] xhtm 1.1 and Ruby annotations

2006-11-30 Thread David Hucklesby
On Thu, 30 Nov 2006 17:34:58 -0800, Scott Tankard wrote: [...] When viewing an xhtml page with an xhtml doctype and served as application/xhtml+xml mime type, the markup errors you described (in fact pretty much all markup errors) would give and ugly yellow 'parsing error' page in Firefox.