Re: [Liveaboard] EXT :Re: Hull breach and about 2 feet of water in my boat.

2012-05-08 Thread Densler, Vernon R (AS)
oard@liveaboardonline.com Subject: Re: [Liveaboard] EXT :Re: Hull breach and about 2 feet of water in my boat. True though that may be, it remains entirely legal for him not to rent dangerous slips while waiting for the necessary paperwork to make them less so. Cheers, Kris On Tue, May 08, 2012

Re: [Liveaboard] EXT :Re: Hull breach and about 2 feet of water in my boat.

2012-05-08 Thread Kris Coward
True though that may be, it remains entirely legal for him not to rent dangerous slips while waiting for the necessary paperwork to make them less so. Cheers, Kris On Tue, May 08, 2012 at 09:27:48AM -0700, Bill Dietrich wrote: > Given regulations in FL, it may not be legal for that marina owner

Re: [Liveaboard] EXT :Re: Hull breach and about 2 feet of water in my boat.

2012-05-08 Thread Bill Dietrich
Given regulations in FL, it may not be legal for that marina owner to "clean the bottom" in his marina.  He may have to get a dredging permit, which last I heard was very difficult to get.   Bill Dietrich bill_dietr...@yahoo.com   http://www.billdietrich.me/ sailing vessel "Magnolia": 1973 Gulfsta

Re: [Liveaboard] EXT :Re: Hull breach and about 2 feet of water in my boat.

2012-05-07 Thread Jim Lynch
On 05/07/2012 09:54 AM, Densler, Vernon R (AS) wrote: > So interesting. While I was on the phone with Hyatt Legal Services getting > the referral information for a lawyer, the marina owner called me back. He > said he was away for the weekend. He has a salvage company who is supposed > to be

Re: [Liveaboard] EXT :Re: Hull breach and about 2 feet of water in my boat.

2012-05-07 Thread Densler, Vernon R (AS)
So interesting. While I was on the phone with Hyatt Legal Services getting the referral information for a lawyer, the marina owner called me back. He said he was away for the weekend. He has a salvage company who is supposed to be trying to get some bags up here from Ft. Lauderdale and get th

Re: [Liveaboard] EXT :Re: Hull breach and about 2 feet of water in my boat.

2012-05-07 Thread Densler, Vernon R (AS)
off I can really get. -Original Message- From: liveaboard-boun...@liveaboardonline.com [mailto:liveaboard-boun...@liveaboardonline.com] On Behalf Of Rufus Sent: Friday, May 04, 2012 9:49 PM To: liveaboard@liveaboardonline.com Subject: Re: [Liveaboard] EXT :Re: Hull breach and about 2 feet of

Re: [Liveaboard] EXT :Re: Hull breach and about 2 feet of water in my boat.

2012-05-05 Thread Vernon Densler
Subject: Re: [Liveaboard] EXT :Re: Hull breach and about 2 feet of water in my boat. I can attest to this first hand. It cost me $6k in attorney fees to get a payout on a total loss. Bob PDQ 36 Peace contract - if necessary. Even though they are your insurance company they are here to make

Re: [Liveaboard] EXT :Re: Hull breach and about 2 feet of water in my boat.

2012-05-05 Thread Bob Johnson
I can attest to this first hand. It cost me $6k in attorney fees to get a payout on a total loss. Bob PDQ 36 Peace contract - if necessary. Even though they are your insurance company they are here to make money and minimize loss and that means they are Not Your Friend. They won't hold up

Re: [Liveaboard] EXT :Re: Hull breach and about 2 feet of water in my boat. (Rufus)

2012-05-05 Thread Bill Dietrich
Whatever way you lift it, do it slowly so the water has time to drain out. Recently heard of a sunken catamaran lifted too quickly via crane, and the weight of the water twisted the hull-deck structure and did a lot of damage.   Bill Dietrich bill_dietr...@yahoo.com   http://www.billdietrich.me/ s

Re: [Liveaboard] EXT :Re: Hull breach and about 2 feet of water in my boat.

2012-05-04 Thread Rufus
Vern You got the 100 year event there. And you were kinda dumped on it, so to speak. One big job you've been gifted with. My .02: If you have insurance that will potentially cover this then involve them fully; if your agent is friendly enough to discuss it off the record, at least get his reco

Re: [Liveaboard] EXT :Re: Hull breach and about 2 feet of water in my boat.

2012-05-03 Thread Densler, Vernon R (AS)
Sent: Thursday, May 03, 2012 8:54 AM To: liveaboard@liveaboardonline.com Subject: Re: [Liveaboard] EXT :Re: Hull breach and about 2 feet of water in my boat. Looking into bags but they would have to be really big to go under the bridge deck and raise up much. We really need to get the hull up fro

Re: [Liveaboard] EXT :Re: Hull breach and about 2 feet of water in my boat.

2012-05-03 Thread Bob Johnson
ay 03, 2012 8:54 AM To: liveaboard@liveaboardonline.com Subject: Re: [Liveaboard] EXT :Re: Hull breach and about 2 feet of water in my boat. Looking into bags but they would have to be really big to go under the bridge deck and raise up much. We really need to get the hull up from the b

Re: [Liveaboard] EXT :Re: Hull breach and about 2 feet of water in my boat.

2012-05-03 Thread Densler, Vernon R (AS)
That didn't work so I used lemon juice. From: liveaboard-boun...@liveaboardonline.com [mailto:liveaboard-boun...@liveaboardonline.com] On Behalf Of Jim Lynch Sent: Thursday, May 03, 2012 1:39 PM To: liveaboard@liveaboardonline.com Subject: Re: [Liveaboard] EXT :Re: Hull breach and about 2

Re: [Liveaboard] EXT :Re: Hull breach and about 2 feet of water in my boat.

2012-05-03 Thread Jim Lynch
On 05/03/2012 08:54 AM, Densler, Vernon R (AS) wrote: Sam you keep sending blank responses. He's using invisible ink. Try heating your monitor with a match. :) Jim. ___ Liveaboard mailing list Liveaboard@liveaboardonline.com To adjust your members

Re: [Liveaboard] EXT :Re: Hull breach and about 2 feet of water in my boat.

2012-05-03 Thread Craig
breach and about 2 feet of water in my boat. Very good advice. ___ Liveaboard mailing list Liveaboard@liveaboardonline.com To adjust your membership settings over the web http://liveaboardonline.com/mailman/listinfo/liveaboard To subscribe send an

Re: [Liveaboard] EXT :Re: Hull breach and about 2 feet of water in my boat.

2012-05-03 Thread Densler, Vernon R (AS)
That is one option we are looking at. From: liveaboard-boun...@liveaboardonline.com [mailto:liveaboard-boun...@liveaboardonline.com] On Behalf Of Philip Sent: Thursday, May 03, 2012 11:32 AM To: liveaboard@liveaboardonline.com Subject: Re: [Liveaboard] EXT :Re: Hull breach and about 2 feet of

Re: [Liveaboard] EXT :Re: Hull breach and about 2 feet of water in my boat.

2012-05-03 Thread Philip
On Thu, 2012-05-03 at 08:50 -0400, JohnB wrote: > How about contacting a towing company and using their air bags under the > bridge deck and float her out. > > J Make sure the marina owner makes the deal with the towing company and pays for it. -- S/V ORYOKI Philip & Marilyn Lange AE4OV

Re: [Liveaboard] EXT :Re: Hull breach and about 2 feet of water in my boat.

2012-05-03 Thread Densler, Vernon R (AS)
-boun...@liveaboardonline.com] On Behalf Of Steve Sent: Thursday, May 03, 2012 10:35 AM To: liveaboard@liveaboardonline.com Subject: Re: [Liveaboard] EXT :Re: Hull breach and about 2 feet of water in my boat. Cut off the pilings? I feel your pain! Steve On 12-05-03 8:43 AM, Densler, Vernon R (AS) wrote:

Re: [Liveaboard] EXT :Re: Hull breach and about 2 feet of water in my boat.

2012-05-03 Thread Densler, Vernon R (AS)
Very good advice. -Original Message- From: liveaboard-boun...@liveaboardonline.com [mailto:liveaboard-boun...@liveaboardonline.com] On Behalf Of Ben Okopnik Sent: Thursday, May 03, 2012 10:27 AM To: liveaboard@liveaboardonline.com Subject: Re: [Liveaboard] EXT :Re: Hull breach and about

Re: [Liveaboard] EXT :Re: Hull breach and about 2 feet of water in my boat.

2012-05-03 Thread Steve
Cut off the pilings? I feel your pain! Steve On 12-05-03 8:43 AM, Densler, Vernon R (AS) wrote: > The marina owner is looking for other options so that we can make sure we do > the right thing. Anyone have any ideas? > ___ Liveaboard mailing list Li

Re: [Liveaboard] EXT :Re: Hull breach and about 2 feet of water in my boat.

2012-05-03 Thread Ben Okopnik
On Thu, May 03, 2012 at 02:09:21PM +, Densler, Vernon R (AS) wrote: > I am going to talk to a lawyer since I have group legal at work and it won’t > cost to get a consultation. I am trying to give the marina owner the benefit > of the doubt though and let him try to make things right. He is g

Re: [Liveaboard] EXT :Re: Hull breach and about 2 feet of water in my boat.

2012-05-03 Thread Densler, Vernon R (AS)
board-boun...@liveaboardonline.com [mailto:liveaboard-boun...@liveaboardonline.com] On Behalf Of nospam forme Sent: Thursday, May 03, 2012 9:55 AM To: liveaboard@liveaboardonline.com Subject: Re: [Liveaboard] EXT :Re: Hull breach and about 2 feet of water in my boat. Seems to me that the marina

Re: [Liveaboard] EXT :Re: Hull breach and about 2 feet of water in my boat.

2012-05-03 Thread nospam forme
Seems to me that the marina owner should be paying a salvager to recover your boat and then paying to restore it. If he does not want to do that then maybe you need to find a lawyer. On May 3, 2012 8:45 AM, "Densler, Vernon R (AS)" wrote: > The marina owner is looking for other options so that

Re: [Liveaboard] EXT :Re: Hull breach and about 2 feet of water in my boat.

2012-05-03 Thread Densler, Vernon R (AS)
Sam you keep sending blank responses. From: liveaboard-boun...@liveaboardonline.com [mailto:liveaboard-boun...@liveaboardonline.com] On Behalf Of Sam Densler Sent: Thursday, May 03, 2012 8:47 AM To: liveaboard@liveaboardonline.com Subject: Re: [Liveaboard] EXT :Re: Hull breach and about 2 feet

Re: [Liveaboard] EXT :Re: Hull breach and about 2 feet of water in my boat.

2012-05-03 Thread Densler, Vernon R (AS)
Sent: Thursday, May 03, 2012 8:51 AM To: liveaboard@liveaboardonline.com Subject: Re: [Liveaboard] EXT :Re: Hull breach and about 2 feet of water in my boat. How about contacting a towing company and using their air bags under the bridge deck and float her out. JohnB On 5/3/2012 8:43 AM

Re: [Liveaboard] EXT :Re: Hull breach and about 2 feet of water in my boat.

2012-05-03 Thread JohnB
How about contacting a towing company and using their air bags under the bridge deck and float her out. JohnB On 5/3/2012 8:43 AM, Densler, Vernon R (AS) wrote: > The marina owner is looking for other options so that we can make sure we do > the right thing. Anyone have any ideas? > > -Ori

Re: [Liveaboard] EXT :Re: Hull breach and about 2 feet of water in my boat.

2012-05-03 Thread Sam Densler
On May 03, 2012, at 08:43 AM, "Densler, Vernon R (AS)" wrote:The marina owner is looking for other options so that we can make sure we do the right thing. Anyone have any ideas? -Original Message- From: liveaboard-boun...@liveaboardonline.com [mailto:liveaboard-boun...@liveaboardonline.c

Re: [Liveaboard] EXT :Re: Hull breach and about 2 feet of water in my boat.

2012-05-03 Thread Sam Densler
On May 03, 2012, at 08:43 AM, "Densler, Vernon R (AS)" wrote:The marina owner is looking for other options so that we can make sure we do the right thing. Anyone have any ideas? -Original Message- From: liveaboard-boun...@liveaboardonline.com [mailto:liveaboard-boun...@liveaboardonline.c

Re: [Liveaboard] EXT :Re: Hull breach and about 2 feet of water in my boat.

2012-05-03 Thread Densler, Vernon R (AS)
The marina owner is looking for other options so that we can make sure we do the right thing. Anyone have any ideas? -Original Message- From: liveaboard-boun...@liveaboardonline.com [mailto:liveaboard-boun...@liveaboardonline.com] On Behalf Of JohnB Sent: Wednesday, May 02, 2012 9:30

Re: [Liveaboard] EXT :Re: Hull breach and about 2 feet of water in my boat.

2012-04-30 Thread Densler, Vernon R (AS)
Something else that seems odd to me. If the hole is as big as it seems wouldn't I see some kind of marine life in the water? I haven't seen any. Maybe a large crack instead of a hole? ___ Liveaboard mailing list Liveaboard@liveaboardonline.com To ad

Re: [Liveaboard] EXT :Re: Hull breach and about 2 feet of water in my boat.

2012-04-30 Thread Densler, Vernon R (AS)
...@liveaboardonline.com] On Behalf Of Lee Haefele Sent: Monday, April 30, 2012 12:47 PM To: liveaboard@liveaboardonline.com Subject: Re: [Liveaboard] EXT :Re: Hull breach and about 2 feet of water in my boat. 40 years ago, when my Richardson cruiser was sinking at the dock, we rented a 2" pump that drew abo

Re: [Liveaboard] EXT :Re: Hull breach and about 2 feet of water in my boat.

2012-04-30 Thread Lee Haefele
iveaboardonline.com > [mailto:liveaboard-boun...@liveaboardonline.com] On Behalf Of Lee Haefele > Sent: Monday, April 30, 2012 12:20 PM > To: liveaboard@liveaboardonline.com > Subject: Re: [Liveaboard] EXT :Re: Hull breach and about 2 feet of water in > my boat. > > Rental com

Re: [Liveaboard] EXT :Re: Hull breach and about 2 feet of water in my boat.

2012-04-30 Thread John Sexton
That is a pretty big pump to get no result. That indicates that your leak is quite large. You should be able to run the pump and throw some dye in the water around your boat and located approximately where your leak is. Another method could be to buy a large tarp, place it around the offending

Re: [Liveaboard] EXT :Re: Hull breach and about 2 feet of water in my boat.

2012-04-30 Thread Densler, Vernon R (AS)
f Lee Haefele Sent: Monday, April 30, 2012 12:20 PM To: liveaboard@liveaboardonline.com Subject: Re: [Liveaboard] EXT :Re: Hull breach and about 2 feet of water in my boat. Rental companies should have high output electric or gas pumps available. Harbor Freight may have one cheap enough t

Re: [Liveaboard] EXT :Re: Hull breach and about 2 feet of water in my boat.

2012-04-30 Thread Lee Haefele
Rental companies should have high output electric or gas pumps available. Harbor Freight may have one cheap enough to buy. Something with a 2" hose. This should raise the boat, or you will see turbulence where the water is entering. Once raised, you can swim around with a plastic grocery ba

Re: [Liveaboard] EXT :Re: Hull breach and about 2 feet of water in my boat.

2012-04-30 Thread Densler, Vernon R (AS)
So maybe...Get some waders, some plastic sheeting, rent a big pump. Start pumping, sheet as much of the aft hull as possible and see if I get anywhere. ___ Liveaboard mailing list Liveaboard@liveaboardonline.com To adjust your membership settings over

Re: [Liveaboard] EXT :Re: Hull breach and about 2 feet of water in my boat.

2012-04-30 Thread Densler, Vernon R (AS)
No tide here. Part of why I was thinking a waterbed mattress or something like that to try to jack the hull up with air. I can't figure out any other way to get any lift from the bottom. -Original Message- From: liveaboard-boun...@liveaboardonline.com [mailto:liveaboard-boun...@liveab