Re: [LMMS-devel] domain name elections

2014-05-13 Thread Tres Finocchiaro
Hi Skypce and thanks for the feedback. Make sure to use Reply All so that your messages reach the entire list. Guys, i have experience setting up virtualmin in digitalocean server (from > 5 usd montly , https://www.digitalocean.com/pricing/ ) for create > servers and subservers and point it to p

Re: [LMMS-devel] domain name elections

2014-05-13 Thread Tres Finocchiaro
> > and guess what: They answered to the dreamhost email. :) I'm still in contact trying to see if it's possible for them to switch to a > new domain. Thanks Lukas! -Tres -- "Accelerate Dev Cycles with Automated Cross

Re: [LMMS-devel] domain name elections

2014-05-13 Thread Lukas W.
I just got a response and guess what: They answered to the dreamhost email. Unfortunately, they are indeed using the domain, it's just blocking ICMP ports (that's why it doesn't ping back). I'm still in contact trying to see if it's possible for them to switch to a new domain. Lukas 2014-05-13

Re: [LMMS-devel] domain name elections

2014-05-13 Thread Lukas W.
"[…] a company whose website is located at lastmilemobilesolutions.com. I tried contacting them […] via the contact form on their website" 2014-05-13 8:34 GMT+02:00 oeai : > on dreamhost there was also "contact us" webform http://www.dreamhost.com/ > contact/ - you didn't specify site > > > On

Re: [LMMS-devel] domain name elections

2014-05-12 Thread oeai
on dreamhost there was also "contact us" webform http://www.dreamhost.com/contact/ - you didn't specify site On 13.05.2014 09:21, Lukas W. wrote: > > Tres & Oeai, If you read my mail again, you'll see that I indeed did > send the message directly to them, using the "Contact Us" page on > their

Re: [LMMS-devel] domain name elections

2014-05-12 Thread Lukas W.
Tres & Oeai, If you read my mail again, you'll see that I indeed did send the message directly to them, using the "Contact Us" page on their website... Vesa, yes I thought about that as well. But I consider them letting it just expire very unlikely. Am 12.05.2014 23:01 schrieb "oeai" : > if the d

Re: [LMMS-devel] domain name elections

2014-05-12 Thread oeai
if the doamin will expire it will go onto auction most probably, also there is about a month for previous user to get it back. it's nice that you did, maybe it's better to ask them directly through www.lastmilemobilesolutions.com becuase dreamhost can be a kind of privacy shield for them. On 13

Re: [LMMS-devel] domain name elections

2014-05-12 Thread Tres Finocchiaro
@Vesa, true! I'll pay them a reasonable amount of money if they demand it. :) > emailed ... ... lastmilemobilesolutions.com at proxy dot dreamhost dot com @Lukas, can you set a calendar reminder so we can check the status of this in 9 days? I'm tempted to pay a broker service for it TBH but that

Re: [LMMS-devel] domain name elections

2014-05-12 Thread Vesa
On 05/12/2014 11:18 PM, Lukas W. wrote: > > > Apart from that, the domain expires this Friday > (2014-05-16T08:11:44Z). It's unlikely, but as the company has never > used the domain, they may not update it? Or, now that they're aware that we want the domain, they may just hold on to it in the hope

Re: [LMMS-devel] domain name elections

2014-05-12 Thread Lukas W.
Well it looks like lmms.org is hold by a company whose website is located at lastmilemobilesolutions.com. I tried contacting them via (a) the contact from on their website and (b) the email address lastmilemobilesolutions@proxy.dreamhost.com (acquired using whois). I sent them this message last

Re: [LMMS-devel] domain name elections

2014-05-12 Thread Tres Finocchiaro
> Has someone tried to reach the holders of lmms.org? I did reach out to some, but not .org. lmms.net: $1,800 USD (about 1,300 euros). lmms.com: $50,000 USD (about 36,000 euros). I did not reach out to lmms.org. -Tres - tres.finocchi...@gmail.com --

Re: [LMMS-devel] domain name elections

2014-05-12 Thread Lukas W.
Hi, Out of curiosity (I'm not part of the project for that long): Has someone tried to reach the holders of lmms.org? - Lukas 2014-05-11 11:56 GMT+02:00 Jonathan Aquilina : > I hopefully should have an answer tomorrow for everyone. > > > On Sun, May 11, 2014 at 11:40 AM, oeai wrote: > >> yes,

Re: [LMMS-devel] domain name elections

2014-05-11 Thread Jonathan Aquilina
I hopefully should have an answer tomorrow for everyone. On Sun, May 11, 2014 at 11:40 AM, oeai wrote: > yes, i understand, not sure how to do it right, there's some gandibar, > usually they provide more support for @registered_users, for a support > case really i'm not sure on what do they ne

Re: [LMMS-devel] domain name elections

2014-05-11 Thread oeai
yes, i understand, not sure how to do it right, there's some gandibar, usually they provide more support for @registered_users, for a support case really i'm not sure on what do they need or ask or support really - can't help with that. On 11.05.2014 02:50, Jonathan Aquilina wrote: > I am wait

Re: [LMMS-devel] domain name elections

2014-05-10 Thread Jonathan Aquilina
I think that is what won hands down. Right now waiting to hear back from gandi, and seeing what we woudl get as a supported project On Sun, May 11, 2014 at 1:11 AM, Stian Jørgensrud wrote: > Very unfortunate about that - sign. It would have looked pretty without it. > > What happened about the v

Re: [LMMS-devel] domain name elections

2014-05-10 Thread Stian Jørgensrud
Very unfortunate about that - sign. It would have looked pretty without it. What happened about the voting? Wasn't lmms-project.org something? Tres Finocchiaro wrote > l-m.ms is available :) -- View this message in context: http://linux-multimedia-studio-lmms.996328.n3.nabble.com/domain-na

Re: [LMMS-devel] domain name elections

2014-05-10 Thread Jonathan Aquilina
I am waiting for an answer so I probably wont have one until monday seeing as its the weekend. On Sat, May 10, 2014 at 7:55 PM, oeai wrote: > Any progress? do they answer? > > On 07.05.2014 17:30, Jonathan Aquilina wrote: > > I will work on this. > > > > > > > > -- > Symbiants > oe ai > > > > -

Re: [LMMS-devel] domain name elections

2014-05-10 Thread Jonathan Aquilina
Havent heard anything will send another email. On 10 May 2014 20:24, "Tres Finocchiaro" wrote: > I'm not sure anyone reached out to them. Jonathan? > > > -- > Is your legacy SCM system holding you back? Join Perforce May

Re: [LMMS-devel] domain name elections

2014-05-10 Thread Tres Finocchiaro
I'm not sure anyone reached out to them. Jonathan? -- Is your legacy SCM system holding you back? Join Perforce May 7 to find out: • 3 signs your SCM is hindering your productivity • Requirements for releasing software fas

Re: [LMMS-devel] domain name elections

2014-05-10 Thread oeai
Any progress? do they answer? On 07.05.2014 17:30, Jonathan Aquilina wrote: > I will work on this. > > -- Symbiants oe ai -- Is your legacy SCM system holding you back? Join Perforce May 7 to find out: • 3 signs your

Re: [LMMS-devel] domain name elections

2014-05-10 Thread Tres Finocchiaro
Unfortunately, lm.ms is unavailavle . it's l-m.ms which is available. -- Is your legacy SCM system holding you back? Join Perforce May 7 to find out: • 3 signs your SCM is hindering your productivity • Requirements for rel

Re: [LMMS-devel] domain name elections

2014-05-09 Thread Jonathan Aquilina
is it lm.ms or l-m.ms? I really like the play on words so to speak. On Sat, May 10, 2014 at 4:13 AM, Tres Finocchiaro < tres.finocchi...@gmail.com> wrote: > l-m.ms is available :) > > > -- Jonathan Aquilina -- Is your

Re: [LMMS-devel] domain name elections

2014-05-09 Thread Tres Finocchiaro
l-m.ms is available :) -- Is your legacy SCM system holding you back? Join Perforce May 7 to find out: • 3 signs your SCM is hindering your productivity • Requirements for releasing software faster • Expert tips and advice

Re: [LMMS-devel] domain name elections

2014-05-07 Thread Tres Finocchiaro
Thanks, that explains it much better. So these guys are anti-monopoly advocates (which may suggest they can rally to get us a top level domain without paying thousands of dollars). Yes, please reach out to them as they seem the most likely candidates to fight these domain name squatters that have

Re: [LMMS-devel] domain name elections

2014-05-07 Thread Jonathan Aquilina
Looking at http://en.gandi.net/supports/ They seem to be a pro open source provider for vps's as well as domains. The page doesnt give further detail, and I can inquire what benefits we will get if we opt to submit the project. We could get the domain as well as a vps but then again that is not cl

Re: [LMMS-devel] domain name elections

2014-05-07 Thread Tres Finocchiaro
What is the benefit? -- Is your legacy SCM system holding you back? Join Perforce May 7 to find out: • 3 signs your SCM is hindering your productivity • Requirements for releasing software faster • Expert tips and advice fo

Re: [LMMS-devel] domain name elections

2014-05-07 Thread Jonathan Aquilina
It seems like the domain registrar below support projects so this means we could get the domain sponsored by them. On 07/05/2014 15:37, Tres Finocchiaro wrote: > What are you two talking about? > > - tres.finocchi...@gmail.com > > > On Wed, May 7, 2014 at 9:3

Re: [LMMS-devel] domain name elections

2014-05-07 Thread Tres Finocchiaro
What are you two talking about? - tres.finocchi...@gmail.com On Wed, May 7, 2014 at 9:30 AM, Jonathan Aquilina wrote: > I will work on this. > > On 07/05/2014 13:26, oeai wrote: > > well, i don't know all project needs and i remember Lukas wanted to do > > some about domain, if there's someone

Re: [LMMS-devel] domain name elections

2014-05-07 Thread Jonathan Aquilina
I will work on this. On 07/05/2014 13:26, oeai wrote: > well, i don't know all project needs and i remember Lukas wanted to do > some about domain, if there's someone else who can do it pretty much > fast and clever, just it's better for one person to work on it, not for > all at the same time

Re: [LMMS-devel] domain name elections

2014-05-07 Thread oeai
well, i don't know all project needs and i remember Lukas wanted to do some about domain, if there's someone else who can do it pretty much fast and clever, just it's better for one person to work on it, not for all at the same time at least .' ) On 07.05.2014 15:11, Jonathan Aquilina wrote: >

Re: [LMMS-devel] domain name elections

2014-05-07 Thread Jonathan Aquilina
I really like this. Are these guys domains only? I would say go for this. On 07/05/2014 12:51, oeai wrote: > Gandi project support (if interested): > > * *Concrete*. You already exist and your project is sustainable or > will truly have the potential to be so in the short term. More > g

Re: [LMMS-devel] domain name elections

2014-05-07 Thread oeai
Gandi project support (if interested): * *Concrete*. You already exist and your project is sustainable or will truly have the potential to be so in the short term. More generally, you have built a well-known, high-quality project, but need some assistance. * *Open*. We want to sup

Re: [LMMS-devel] domain name elections

2014-05-07 Thread oeai
lmms-project is available On 07.05.2014 09:54, Jonathan Aquilina wrote: > I think we should go with the original vote to be honest. As you are > mentioning we are all known to each other and I think this is taking > way to long, and the orignal vote shoudl count as we are wasting time. > Has an

Re: [LMMS-devel] domain name elections

2014-05-06 Thread Jonathan Aquilina
I think we should go with the original vote to be honest. As you are mentioning we are all known to each other and I think this is taking way to long, and the orignal vote shoudl count as we are wasting time. Has anyone checked again to see if the domain which one is still available. On Tue, May

Re: [LMMS-devel] domain name elections

2014-05-06 Thread Jonathan Aquilina
Then in that case I would say go for the domain which got the most votes and I retract my initial statement. On Tue, May 6, 2014 at 11:16 PM, Vesa wrote: > On 05/07/2014 12:13 AM, Tres Finocchiaro wrote: > >I don't see the point in making this into any kind of public vote. >> > > If that

Re: [LMMS-devel] domain name elections

2014-05-06 Thread Vesa
On 05/07/2014 12:13 AM, Tres Finocchiaro wrote: > > I don't see the point in making this into any kind of public vote. > > > If that perspective is shared, then voting via text document should be > and is acceptable and we have a winner. :) > > -Tres I mean, don't get me wrong - sure there are

Re: [LMMS-devel] domain name elections

2014-05-06 Thread Tres Finocchiaro
> > I don't see the point in making this into any kind of public vote. > If that perspective is shared, then voting via text document should be and is acceptable and we have a winner. :) -Tres -- Is your legacy SCM system

Re: [LMMS-devel] domain name elections

2014-05-06 Thread Vesa
On 05/06/2014 11:52 PM, Tres Finocchiaro wrote: > I think it's down to lmms-project.org and > lmms.io . > > I'd rather we do a proper vote. I assume that if our vote is isolated > to our developers list then its our developers decision? I don't see the po

Re: [LMMS-devel] domain name elections

2014-05-06 Thread oeai
well i'd think some on registrar between godaddy and gandi i remember godaddy gived free ssl-certs and gandi got it at 16$ and i don't understand those ** asteriks meaning gandi got more .names to register right now @tres if you could call http://whois.net/whois/lmms.org about, maybe it would be

Re: [LMMS-devel] domain name elections

2014-05-06 Thread Tres Finocchiaro
I think it's down to lmms-project.org and lmms.io. I'd rather we do a proper vote. I assume that if our vote is isolated to our developers list then its our developers decision? In that case, lmms-project.org has won hands down and we should move forward and the conversation should be over. If

Re: [LMMS-devel] domain name elections

2014-05-06 Thread oeai
in this maillist you are well known to each other, so all mails are familiar. just put the name of your preferred domain on top of ths thread or start new for it you will be able to count it on your own. for advanced users reply to thread with same domain name, so in thread view it will be even

Re: [LMMS-devel] domain name elections

2014-05-06 Thread Jonathan Aquilina
Vesa my previous email is my opinion. If you think we should move forward anyway dont let me stop us from moving forward with the process On Tue, May 6, 2014 at 9:51 PM, Vesa wrote: > On 05/06/2014 10:47 PM, Jonathan Aquilina wrote: > > I think that the election in a way is null and void in my

Re: [LMMS-devel] domain name elections

2014-05-06 Thread Jonathan Aquilina
Its hard to say but using an etherpad anyone could do that. Its hard to say if anyone has or not. On Tue, May 6, 2014 at 9:51 PM, Vesa wrote: > On 05/06/2014 10:47 PM, Jonathan Aquilina wrote: > > I think that the election in a way is null and void in my honest > > opinion. As it used an unoffi

Re: [LMMS-devel] domain name elections

2014-05-06 Thread Vesa
On 05/06/2014 10:47 PM, Jonathan Aquilina wrote: > I think that the election in a way is null and void in my honest > opinion. As it used an unofficial means to vote which could have > easily been taamperd and falsified. I think Lukas needs to set us up > on a proper voting system one that records

Re: [LMMS-devel] domain name elections

2014-05-06 Thread Jonathan Aquilina
I think that the election in a way is null and void in my honest opinion. As it used an unofficial means to vote which could have easily been taamperd and falsified. I think Lukas needs to set us up on a proper voting system one that records the ips so people cannot vote again. On Tue, May 6, 201

Re: [LMMS-devel] domain name elections

2014-05-06 Thread oeai
i think lmms-project.org is voted more and it represents most people's choice as i see for lmms.org there's LastMileMobileSolutions site and this is the part of registrant email that uses this abbr, so maybe they will not go to free it or sell domain. for case of lmms-devel i think that it's cl

Re: [LMMS-devel] domain name elections

2014-05-06 Thread Lukas W.
Hi oaei, Due to some technical issues, I was not able to work on the domain elections last weekend. Those issues are fixed now, but I won't have any time for it in the next few weeks unfortunately. So if you'd still like to manage the election, please go on and do it. :-) - Lukas 2014-05-02 12:

Re: [LMMS-devel] domain name elections

2014-05-02 Thread oeai
there's few opportunities in few weeks. first domain lmms.org expires in 16.05. second new domains zones lmms.art, lmms.music and others can be released in about month or so, their cost/y can be about 20-70$, said it will be opened in Q2 for register. the way i see is to propose lmms.org curre

Re: [LMMS-devel] domain name elections

2014-04-29 Thread Lukas W.
2014-04-29 20:19 GMT+02:00 Tres Finocchiaro : > > Lukas, you're breaking your own off-topic rules asking about Django. :) Oh damn, yes I am. I'm sorry, but you surely know how hard it is! :) -- "Accelerate Dev Cycles with

Re: [LMMS-devel] domain name elections

2014-04-29 Thread Tres Finocchiaro
Lukas, you're breaking your own off-topic rules asking about Django. :) I believe Toby proposed Django, but if he hands this stuff off, then I'd argue choosing a technology can depend on the maintainers. IIRC Toby has asked on several occasions for someone to take ownership of the site maintenanc

Re: [LMMS-devel] domain name elections

2014-04-29 Thread Lukas W.
> yes. i see that you'd like to discuss more, but really it's not a 5 years, this can be a longer time or lesser if there will be no payments. It could be less, but it should be 5 years. We should buy the domain for at least 5 years so that we don't have to search for new money annually. > it's a

Re: [LMMS-devel] domain name elections

2014-04-29 Thread oeai
yes. i see that you'd like to discuss more, but really it's not a 5 years, this can be a longer time or lesser if there will be no payments. if someone have to be patient then someone got to push it - it's a part of a balance, if you will not balance things then, there will be forever-wait-time

Re: [LMMS-devel] domain name elections

2014-04-29 Thread Lukas W.
> when domain will be purchased then things can go forward, with new design more people maybe will come A new domain doesn't mean a new design, those are two different things. > Why wait for it, if the major part will take on .org most probably. Why even vote then? But to return to the original i

Re: [LMMS-devel] domain name elections

2014-04-29 Thread oeai
But they don't post more arguments. Why wait for it, if the major part will take on .org most probably. and when domain will be purchased then things can go forward, with new design more people maybe will come to see it and hear music, maybe they will support some more and that will provide a sec

Re: [LMMS-devel] domain name elections

2014-04-29 Thread Lukas W.
oeai, do you even read my posts? Please stop calling on people to vote. 2014-04-29 11:50 GMT+02:00 oeai : > Voting reminder! > Final Round! > We got only six votes in final round > i think we need at least 12 to declare a consensus. > > On 27.04.2014 11:42, oeai wrote: > > > > https://pad.riseup

Re: [LMMS-devel] domain name elections

2014-04-29 Thread oeai
Voting reminder! Final Round! We got only six votes in final round i think we need at least 12 to declare a consensus. On 27.04.2014 11:42, oeai wrote: > > https://pad.riseup.net/p/lmms.org > > take your part in domain name selection > see instructions in pad > -- Symbiants oe ai

Re: [LMMS-devel] domain name elections

2014-04-28 Thread Lukas W.
On Mon, Apr 28, 2014 at 5:23 AM, Tres Finocchiaro < tres.finocchi...@gmail.com> wrote: > I've slept a bit on the lmms.io and I like it. The vote process was just > too unorganized and abrupt for me. Well, it's still in the final round! That vote process was indeed very abrupt, but it quickly sh

Re: [LMMS-devel] domain name elections

2014-04-27 Thread Jonathan Aquilina
Can we setup a proper pole then a bad i know there are free places for a poll that we could use. On Mon, Apr 28, 2014 at 5:23 AM, Tres Finocchiaro < tres.finocchi...@gmail.com> wrote: > > On Sun, Apr 27, 2014 at 5:06 PM, Lukas W. wrote: > >> Actually, I'd suggest to collect some arguments and t

Re: [LMMS-devel] domain name elections

2014-04-27 Thread Tres Finocchiaro
On Sun, Apr 27, 2014 at 5:06 PM, Lukas W. wrote: > Actually, I'd suggest to collect some arguments and think about it > first? Please take a look at my post in the original thread. > I've slept a bit on the lmms.io and I like it. The vote process was just too unorganized and abrupt for me. Hey

Re: [LMMS-devel] domain name elections

2014-04-27 Thread Lukas W.
Actually, I'd suggest to collect some arguments and think about it first? Please take a look at my post in the original thread. 2014-04-27 22:31 GMT+02:00 atumra : > Round 2 start > vote for 1 domain only > > On 27.04.2014 11:42, oeai wrote: >> a reminder for those who've missed yesterday's (or th

Re: [LMMS-devel] domain name elections

2014-04-27 Thread atumra
Round 2 start vote for 1 domain only On 27.04.2014 11:42, oeai wrote: > a reminder for those who've missed yesterday's (or this day?) night party > > https://pad.riseup.net/p/lmms.org > > take your part in domain name selection > see instructions in pad > -- RA ---

[LMMS-devel] domain name elections

2014-04-27 Thread oeai
a reminder for those who've missed yesterday's (or this day?) night party https://pad.riseup.net/p/lmms.org take your part in domain name selection see instructions in pad -- Symbiants oe ai -- Start Your Social Netwo