Re: Questions for our poll

2011-08-15 Thread Stefan Bodewig
On 2011-08-16, Roy Chastain wrote: > A starting point for the questions to be presented. Please modify and > add as you see fit. These are in no particular order. Looks good to me. > 6) - Do you need an assembly targeting any version of Silverlight? (if > enough say yes, we come back and ask

Re: Client Profiles

2011-08-15 Thread Stefan Bodewig
On 2011-08-15, Roy Chastain wrote: > Let me start at some basics just to ensure that we are starting at the > same point. > There are 3 CLR versions, 1.x, 2.0, 4.0. Framework 3.0 and 3.5 are > simply add on assemblies that target the 2.0 runtime. This fact is why > the 3.5, 3.0 and 2.0 interop w

Questions for our poll

2011-08-15 Thread Roy Chastain
A starting point for the questions to be presented. Please modify and add as you see fit. These are in no particular order. 1) - Do you need an assembly targeting the 1.0 and/or 1.1 framework? 2) - Please prioritize the following Producing an assembly targeting the 3.5 client profile

[jira] [Created] (LOG4NET-303) How to do configuration in assembly.cs file for log4net implementation?

2011-08-15 Thread Vanitha (JIRA)
How to do configuration in assembly.cs file for log4net implementation? --- Key: LOG4NET-303 URL: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/LOG4NET-303 Project: Log4net Issue Ty

RE: Client Profiles

2011-08-15 Thread Roy Chastain
>> I think csc is smart enough to drop references that aren't actually used. Apparently not. Below is text from the announcement of the 3.5 client profile at http://blogs.windowsclient.net/trickster92/archive/2008/05/21/introducin g-the-net-framework-client-profile.aspx. I draw you attention to

RE: Client Profiles

2011-08-15 Thread Roy Chastain
Sorry, I probably did not express my points well. Let me start at some basics just to ensure that we are starting at the same point. There are 3 CLR versions, 1.x, 2.0, 4.0. Framework 3.0 and 3.5 are simply add on assemblies that target the 2.0 runtime. This fact is why the 3.5, 3.0 and 2.0 inte

[jira] [Commented] (LOG4NET-233) Support .NET 4.0 including Client Profile

2011-08-15 Thread Markus Ewald (JIRA)
[ https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/LOG4NET-233?page=com.atlassian.jira.plugin.system.issuetabpanels:comment-tabpanel&focusedCommentId=13085159#comment-13085159 ] Markus Ewald commented on LOG4NET-233: -- I have added a patch with the changes I've b

[jira] [Updated] (LOG4NET-233) Support .NET 4.0 including Client Profile

2011-08-15 Thread Markus Ewald (JIRA)
[ https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/LOG4NET-233?page=com.atlassian.jira.plugin.system.issuetabpanels:all-tabpanel ] Markus Ewald updated LOG4NET-233: - Attachment: log4net-1.2.10-net-4.0.patch Patch that adds .NET 4.0 Client Profile compatibility t

Re: Moving forward with updates, builds and versions

2011-08-15 Thread Stefan Bodewig
On 2011-08-15, Dominik Psenner wrote: > On 08/15/2011 11:39 AM, Stefan Bodewig wrote: >> If we get back on track with regular releases the occasional trunk >> breakage will be OK as people won't be forced to use arbitrary trunk >> revisions. > No, it is not OK at all. IMHO every recorded history

[jira] [Commented] (LOG4NET-108) [PATCH] add support for multiple evaluators in BufferingAppenderSkeletan

2011-08-15 Thread Curt Arnold (JIRA)
[ https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/LOG4NET-108?page=com.atlassian.jira.plugin.system.issuetabpanels:comment-tabpanel&focusedCommentId=13085066#comment-13085066 ] Curt Arnold commented on LOG4NET-108: - The patch file did not apply cleanly for me, p

Re: Client Profiles

2011-08-15 Thread Stefan Bodewig
On 2011-08-15, Roy Chastain wrote: >>> What I wonder is: do we really need 3.5 and 4.0 assemblies at all? > Two comments > 1) - There seems to be a lot of confusion among developers about the > Frameworks. By reading the questions that have been asked on the list, > I believe that many of them d

Re: Client Profiles

2011-08-15 Thread Stefan Bodewig
On 2011-08-15, Roy Chastain wrote: > A couple of issues > 1) - There is no client profile for 2.0. 3.5 is the first version with > a client profile. > 2) - There is more to building against client profiles than removing > namespaces. I understand both of those points. Let's assume we target 2.0

RE: Client Profiles

2011-08-15 Thread Roy Chastain
A couple of issues 1) - There is no client profile for 2.0. 3.5 is the first version with a client profile. 2) - There is more to building against client profiles than removing namespaces. The references must be changed to remove the Framework DLLs that are not part of the client profile. Again,

RE: Client Profiles (was Re: Open issues for 1.2.10 release)

2011-08-15 Thread Roy Chastain
>> What I wonder is: do we really need 3.5 and 4.0 assemblies at all? Two comments 1) - There seems to be a lot of confusion among developers about the Frameworks. By reading the questions that have been asked on the list, I believe that many of them do not realize that a 4.0 framework app can ca

Re: Moving forward with updates, builds and versions

2011-08-15 Thread Dominik Psenner
On 08/15/2011 11:39 AM, Stefan Bodewig wrote: > If we get back on track with regular releases the occasional trunk > breakage will be OK as people won't be forced to use arbitrary trunk > revisions. No, it is not OK at all. IMHO every recorded history should be a monolithic working library. Only i

Re: Client Profiles

2011-08-15 Thread Stefan Bodewig
On 2011-08-15, Dominik Psenner wrote: > On 08/15/2011 11:26 AM, Stefan Bodewig wrote: >> Like I said later, I'm not convinced we need to target 4.0 at all as the >> 2.0 version should just work. For client profile we could use a >> stripped down 2.0 version or explicitly target 3.5 (client profil

Re: Client Profiles

2011-08-15 Thread Dominik Psenner
On 08/15/2011 11:26 AM, Stefan Bodewig wrote: > Like I said later, I'm not convinced we need to target 4.0 at all as the > 2.0 version should just work. For client profile we could use a > stripped down 2.0 version or explicitly target 3.5 (client profile). > But I may very well be missing some nu

Re: Moving forward with updates, builds and versions

2011-08-15 Thread Stefan Bodewig
On 2011-08-15, Dominik Psenner wrote: > On 08/15/2011 07:26 AM, Stefan Bodewig wrote: >> I think it is important for us all, that we do have a single place with >> the code to discuss - and once we have enough people with write access >> it won't be necessary to think about any other place than sv

Re: Client Profiles

2011-08-15 Thread Stefan Bodewig
On 2011-08-15, Dominik Psenner wrote: > On 08/15/2011 08:29 AM, Stefan Bodewig wrote: >> Right now the NAnt build builds several different assemblies targeting >> different platforms all out of the same source tree and it should be >> straight forward to extend that to the client profile as well.

Re: Client Profiles (was Re: Open issues for 1.2.10 release)

2011-08-15 Thread Dominik Psenner
On 08/15/2011 08:29 AM, Stefan Bodewig wrote: > Right now the NAnt build builds several different assemblies targeting > different platforms all out of the same source tree and it should be > straight forward to extend that to the client profile as well. > > Tasos' patch basically works the same w

Re: Moving forward with updates, builds and versions

2011-08-15 Thread Dominik Psenner
On 08/15/2011 07:26 AM, Stefan Bodewig wrote: > I think it is important for us all, that we do have a single place with > the code to discuss - and once we have enough people with write access > it won't be necessary to think about any other place than svn for this. > > The "hg or git clone of svn

Moving Forward

2011-08-15 Thread Stefan Bodewig
Hi all, it seems that so far we agree that the very next steps should be * release 1.2.11 ASAP. This should be current trunk plus all known good patches from JIRA that won't make it impossible to build for 1.0 or compact framework. I think it may be possible to provide client profile vers