On Tue, Mar 2, 2010 at 7:16 PM, Minimiscience wrote:
>
> I'm not entirely sure what "exceptions" xorxes was referring to, but I can't
> think of any that actually break any prior rules. All of the {fu'ivla} listed
> on jbovlaste have a consonant pair in the first five letters, with the
> possibl
de'i li 02 pi'e 03 pi'e 2010 la'o fy. Luke Bergen .fy. cusku zoi skamyxatra.
> . what happened to rigid rules of morphology so that you always know
> when you're dealing with a brivla vs a cmavo cluster vs. a cmevla vs.
> etc...?
>
> Is there no hope of fixing these exceptions? It rubs me the
Thanks for all the responses...
So... I think I like prekarni the most. It would be nice to say it's an
internet "journal", but I should wait that {kib} is officialized.
mu'o mi'e .leos.
De: Pierre Abbat
Para: lojban-beginners@lojban.org
Enviado: martes, 2 d
On Tue, Mar 2, 2010 at 6:32 PM, Ian Johnson wrote:
> So in the previous instance you have the x1 place as zo'e (and thus taken to
> be from the previous sentence) and then you fill in the x2 place as being lo
> mi zdani. To make a silly but more general example, just to make sure I
> understand:
>
So in the previous instance you have the x1 place as zo'e (and thus taken to
be from the previous sentence) and then you fill in the x2 place as being lo
mi zdani. To make a silly but more general example, just to make sure I
understand:
mi'o klama lo zdani lo solri xu
might a reasonable answer (ig
On Tue, Mar 2, 2010 at 4:50 PM, Ian Johnson wrote:
> OK. So how does go'i work, exactly, in the case of "go'i lo mi zdani"?
> Ordinarily it repeats the previous {bridi}, yes, and if you give it an
> article it can be used to refer back to a particular {sumti} in the previous
> {bridi} (as in, say,
OK. So how does go'i work, exactly, in the case of "go'i lo mi zdani"?
Ordinarily it repeats the previous {bridi}, yes, and if you give it an
article it can be used to refer back to a particular {sumti} in the previous
{bridi} (as in, say, le se go'i). But what happens here, logically?
mu'omi'e la
. what happened to rigid rules of morphology so that you always know
when you're dealing with a brivla vs a cmavo cluster vs. a cmevla vs.
etc...?
Is there no hope of fixing these exceptions? It rubs me the wrong way that
the logical language would have exceptions.
2010/3/2 Jorge Llambías
On Tue, Mar 2, 2010 at 3:49 PM, Luke Bergen wrote:
> oops, my bad. I wondered about that, but I thought that {y} doesn't count
> when looking to see if the first 5 letters contain a CC pair.
"y" doesn't count, but fu'ivla can't contain "y" anyway.
The "5 letter" rule is not very reliable in any
oops, my bad. I wondered about that, but I thought that {y} doesn't count
when looking to see if the first 5 letters contain a CC pair.
2010/3/2 Jorge Llambías
> On Tue, Mar 2, 2010 at 2:05 PM, Luke Bergen wrote:
> > and I'm
> > not sure if {xumymetano} is a valid fu'ivla for "methanol".
>
>
On Tue, Mar 2, 2010 at 1:16 PM, Ian Johnson wrote:
> So {xu} can be used for things other than entire {bridi}. Interesting, and
> useful as well. So how do you answer questions like that? For example, if
> you are asked:
> mi'o klama lo zarci xu (I think this is right...)
> How do you respond if:
So {xu} can be used for things other than entire {bridi}. Interesting, and
useful as well. So how do you answer questions like that? For example, if
you are asked:
mi'o klama lo zarci xu (I think this is right...)
How do you respond if:
mi'o klama lo zarci
is true, as compared with when:
mi'o klama
On Tue, Mar 2, 2010 at 2:05 PM, Luke Bergen wrote:
> and I'm
> not sure if {xumymetano} is a valid fu'ivla for "methanol".
No, fu'ivla can't have "y", you want "xumrmetano" there. (What you
have will actually parse as a string of cmavo: "xu my me ta no".)
Wikipedia says that "methanol" is also
On Tue, Mar 2, 2010 at 12:07 PM, Pierre Abbat wrote:
> On Tuesday 02 March 2010 11:51:21 Ian Johnson wrote:
> > Today I asked my lab instructor:
> > So we're testing with methanol* twice*?
>
> I would say "mi'a pilno lo metlyxalka remoi pau le cipra"
> (or "...repaumoi..."). Jbofi'e glosses "pau"
What you probably want is {xu}, specifically tied to the sumti in
question. This gives a sort of "is it this as opposed to something
else"?
.i do citka lo plise ku xu
Is it apples that you eat? (As opposed to something else)
.i do dunda lo rupnu ku mi xu
Is it me you're giving the money to?
In th
On Tuesday 02 March 2010 11:51:21 Ian Johnson wrote:
> Today I asked my lab instructor:
> So we're testing with methanol* twice*?
I would say "mi'a pilno lo metlyxalka remoi pau le cipra"
(or "...repaumoi..."). Jbofi'e glosses "pau" as "question follows", but since
it's in UI, it modifies the pr
I believe {xu} will work for your purposes. {xu} applies to the previous
word or the construct that that word begins. So when it's used at the
beginning of a sentence it applies to the {.i} and consequently the whole
bridi. But if you were to say {ma'a reroi xu cipygau lo xumymetano} I think
tha
Today I asked my lab instructor:
So we're testing with methanol* twice*?
(The emphasis in text is stronger than it actually is in voice, but you get
the idea). In other words, I knew we were testing with methanol, was pretty
sure we were doing it twice, but was not 100% sure about the twice part.
T
2010/2/27 Jorge Llambías
> On Sun, Feb 28, 2010 at 12:24 AM, Luke Bergen
> wrote:
> > Ok, so, what you're describing, xorxes, is something different from the
> CLL
> > I think. I thought I always understood VA/ZI as sumtcita but I guess
> not.
> > The CLL version I understand to mean that {mi
For as many moments as I could spare in the last month, I've been
working on a lojban website:
http://lodockikumazvati.org/
"lo do ckiku ma zvati" is "Where are your Keys?" in Lojban. "Where
are your Keys?" is a language learning game I've been involved with
the past 6 months. I host regular WA
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