On Thu, Apr 26, 2001 at 10:33:36PM +0100, Robin Szemeti wrote:
actually .. nutscrape under Linux annoys me when it insists on looking up
a hostname no matter how hard you click on the stop button .. bad
threading.
Excellent reason to use a proxy. Junkbuster's good...
Roger
Robin Szemeti wrote:
now I am absolutely totally 100% certain that some web browser (and thats
all it is) should *not* mess around with the way I view folders. I think
that was a turning point for me and my judgement is probably clouded and
No, no, no, that's _not_ all it is. IE is a
On Thursday, April 26, 2001, at 07:23 PM, Niklas Nordebo wrote:
Gets a 9, apparently.
http://slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=01/04/26/1229238mode=thread
I like the following comment (I know you've seen it, Niklas):
=for amusement
Boycott This Book!!! (Score:2, Troll)
by none on Thursday
On Fri, 27 Apr 2001, you wrote:
Well, if you're daft enough to install Turdpoke you deserve all you
get.
In my defence your Honour, this relates to the BL[1] period of my life and
I am now a reformed character. I have worshipped at The Shrine Of The
Penguin for many moons now, broken bread
Seems like DBD::Pg and mysql both support bind_param().. but do they
really? Checking mysql API docs seems to suggest (unless I'm looking at
the beginner version) there aren't any functions to prepare statements.
I haven't looked at Postgres.
Can anyone confirm/deny?
Ah ha! (answering my own
On Fri, 27 Apr 2001, you wrote:
The real answer is since you are using a database you care about speed
so spend three minutes reading the docs/google for your particular
database vendor and implement whatever strategy is suggested
(AUTO_INCREMENT, ROWID, oid, SEQUENCE, before-row-insert
Have a look at her right big toe in this, has someone doctored the photo?
http://britneyspears.ac/bs/024b.jpg
--
Robert
- Original Message -
From: Robin Szemeti [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: 26 April 2001 21:19
Subject: Buffy? .. naah .. wait till you see this
On or about Fri, Apr 27, 2001 at 01:46:16AM -0700, Paul Makepeace typed:
Does anyone have any Real World experience with the speed-up (even
hand-wavy vague anecdotes) of using bind values v. reparsing the SQL
each time (for databases that support this obviously). Postgres and
Oracle I'm
On Fri, Apr 27, 2001 at 09:38:45AM +0100, Robin Szemeti wrote:
but of course .. however the topic was (somewhere along the thread)
related to portable methods to try and keep from having to change all the
SQL between different db version.
Why do this? Unless you're using the db in a toy
On Fri, Apr 27, 2001 at 09:39:18AM +0100, Robert Shiels wrote:
Have a look at her right big toe in this, has someone doctored the photo?
http://britneyspears.ac/bs/024b.jpg
I read press releases that explicitly denied all rumors of any surgical
enhancements to Britney's anatomy.
HTH :)
On Fri, Apr 27, 2001 at 09:49:33AM +0100, Roger Burton West wrote:
Oracle quite a bit - it parses the statement with placeholders and
does large amounts of cacheing. Definitely worth it if you're fiddling
with large dbs. For postgres it's a lot less important IME.
Great, thanks!
This is all
On Fri, Apr 27, 2001 at 12:41:00AM +0100, Robin Szemeti wrote:
[ and don't even ask me about the time Demon distributed some pox ridden
disk with IE4.1 on it ..'err I just installed the latest version of
Turnpike and seem to have inherited IE4 .. how do I get rid of it as its
screwed my
On Fri, 27 Apr 2001, you wrote:
On Fri, Apr 27, 2001 at 09:38:45AM +0100, Robin Szemeti wrote:
but of course .. however the topic was (somewhere along the thread)
related to portable methods to try and keep from having to change all the
SQL between different db version.
Why do this?
On Fri, Apr 27, 2001 at 09:23:16AM +0100, Jonathan Peterson wrote:
Robin Szemeti wrote:
now I am absolutely totally 100% certain that some web browser (and thats
all it is) should *not* mess around with the way I view folders. I think
that was a turning point for me and my judgement is
On Fri, 27 Apr 2001, you wrote:
Ho ho, you should have heard the stick that support got from that little
prank. Have you been sent a green CD, sir? We'd better send you an
orange one to recover your system... It went on for *weeks*.
umm .. I went for the 'format from the ground up'
On Fri, Apr 27, 2001 at 07:21:35AM +0100, Roger Burton West wrote:
On Thu, Apr 26, 2001 at 10:33:36PM +0100, Robin Szemeti wrote:
actually .. nutscrape under Linux annoys me when it insists on looking up
a hostname no matter how hard you click on the stop button .. bad
threading.
Excellent
In message [EMAIL PROTECTED],
Lucy McWilliam [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Hmmm, would it be bad form to reminisce
about all things Manc on a London.pm list?!
Given the number of people I've seen from Manchester Uni at the
technical meetings, probably not...
--
Paul Makepeace sent the following bits through the ether:
If it was that simple, someone would've done it -- DBI is a very
mature and competent module
That's the problem. It seems like people aren't content with writing
their own, slightly different, templating system, and have moved onto
well, it looks like the tube strike (8pm Weds 2nd May - 8pm Thurs 3rd May)
is still on, and this will scupper our May social meeting plans rather.
invoking the awesome powers delegated to me by davorg i pronounce that
May's social meeting will be postponed until thursday May 10th, and if the
Paul Makepeace sent the following bits through the ether:
Does anyone have any Real World experience with the speed-up (even
hand-wavy vague anecdotes) of using bind values v. reparsing the SQL
each time (for databases that support this obviously). Postgres and
Oracle I'm particularly
From: Chris Heathcote [EMAIL PROTECTED]
on 27/4/01 11:08 am, Rob Partington wrote:
about all things Manc on a London.pm list?!
Given the number of people I've seen from Manchester Uni at the
technical meetings, probably not...
Y'see I was a Salford problem kid...
I always knew
Jonathan Stowe wrote:
And hide the test failures if you are running on SCO OpenServer or
Unixware (see p5p passim) :)
Does anyone still run SCO? Thought they'd all died.
Cheers,
Phi OpenSewer lip
--
Philip Newton [EMAIL PROTECTED]
All opinions are my own, not my employer's.
If you're not
Ian Brayshaw wrote:
it's the internal workings of require that stop the tie
from being honoured. I presume that the require burrows
down into the internals and isn't aware that it's a tie'd
handle. As far as I can tell the code within the require
call is unaware that this handle is an
On Fri, 27 Apr 2001, you wrote:
Paul Makepeace sent the following bits through the ether:
If it was that simple, someone would've done it -- DBI is a very
mature and competent module
That's the problem. It seems like people aren't content with writing
their own, slightly different,
On Fri, Apr 27, 2001 at 01:31:38PM +0200, Philip Newton wrote:
Jonathan Stowe wrote:
And hide the test failures if you are running on SCO OpenServer or
Unixware (see p5p passim) :)
Does anyone still run SCO? Thought they'd all died.
Well the last place I worked that ran OpenSewer did
On Fri, Apr 27, 2001 at 01:32:24PM +0200, Philip Newton wrote:
Ian Brayshaw wrote:
it's the internal workings of require that stop the tie
from being honoured. I presume that the require burrows
down into the internals and isn't aware that it's a tie'd
handle. As far as I can tell the
[ I sent this earlier on, but it doesn't seem to have gone through -
I'm trying again using the address I subscribed with, but I'm sure
I've used a non-subscription address before. Are postings subscriber
only ..? ]
On Fri, Apr 27, 2001 at 11:03:46AM +0100, Lucy McWilliam wrote:
OK, so I
On Fri, Apr 27, 2001 at 10:11:40AM +0100, Dominic Mitchell wrote:
Ho ho, you should have heard the stick that support got from that little
prank. Have you been sent a green CD, sir? We'd better send you an
orange one to recover your system... It went on for *weeks*.
I take it this
On Fri, 27 Apr 2001, you wrote:
On Fri, Apr 27, 2001 at 10:11:40AM +0100, Dominic Mitchell wrote:
Ho ho, you should have heard the stick that support got from that little
prank. Have you been sent a green CD, sir? We'd better send you an
orange one to recover your system... It went
On Fri, Apr 27, 2001 at 01:59:53PM +0100, Robin Szemeti wrote:
On Fri, 27 Apr 2001, you wrote:
On Fri, Apr 27, 2001 at 10:11:40AM +0100, Dominic Mitchell wrote:
Ho ho, you should have heard the stick that support got from that little
prank. Have you been sent a green CD, sir? We'd
Chris Ball wrote:
Are postings subscriber only ..? ]
As far as I know, yes; Jonathan Stowe has to hand-approve non-subscriber
postings for them to make it to the list.
Cheers,
Philip
--
Philip Newton [EMAIL PROTECTED]
All opinions are my own, not my employer's.
If you're not part of the
Philip Newton wrote:
Chris Ball wrote:
Are postings subscriber only ..? ]
Subscriber not even, more like. I bet this email never makes it to the
list for a start.
I blame majordomo, when's that mailman thing getting here?
Jonathan Peterson
Technical Manager, Unified Ltd, 020 7383 6092
On Fri, Apr 27, 2001 at 02:30:20PM +0100, Jonathan Peterson wrote:
Philip Newton wrote:
Chris Ball wrote:
Are postings subscriber only ..? ]
Subscriber not even, more like. I bet this email never makes it to the
list for a start.
I blame majordomo, when's that mailman thing getting
Dominic Mitchell wrote:
On Fri, Apr 27, 2001 at 02:30:20PM +0100, Jonathan Peterson wrote:
I blame majordomo, when's that mailman thing getting here?
Well, it is based on Python, which might cause a few stirrings around
here...
You think the Perl community is proud of the majordomo code?
On Fri, Apr 27, 2001 at 01:32:24PM +0200, Philip Newton wrote:
Ian Brayshaw wrote:
it's the internal workings of require that stop the tie
from being honoured. I presume that the require burrows
down into the internals and isn't aware that it's a tie'd
handle. As far as I can tell
On Fri, Apr 27, 2001 at 11:03:46AM +0100, Lucy McWilliam wrote:
Hmmm, would it be bad form to reminisce
about all things Manc on a London.pm list?!
Given that I didn't learn perl until after I graduated, and Buffy
isn't Manc-specific, then probably :-)
Hazy tales of drunken nights in Jilly's
On Fri, 27 Apr 2001, Robin Szemeti wrote:
On Fri, 27 Apr 2001, someone who Robin's attrib to fscked up wrote:
[side note: I did just see a bizarre thread in macosx-dev where
one guy claimed his FFT code was executing faster in Java than C
because its interpreter used runtime info to
Hazy tales of drunken nights in Jilly's drinking too much snakebite
and falling over while trying to dance to the Sisters of Mercy
probably won't interest most of london.pm
How can you fall over doing one step forward one step backward with your
arms out for balance?
Or was it the one
On Fri, 27 Apr 2001, will wrote:
Alex page wrote:
Hazy tales of drunken nights in Jilly's drinking too much snakebite
and falling over while trying to dance to the Sisters of Mercy
probably won't interest most of london.pm
Cheap bottles of calsberg and rage against the machine...
On Fri, Apr 27, 2001 at 05:50:50PM +0100, Lucy McWilliam wrote:
On topic - how come all the decent jobs are dahn sarf?
Dunno. A lot of my coursemates ended up working for a Manchester-based IT
company (Lantara?) doing network admin and web coding, but the pay wasn't
great and I'd had a better
Slimelight: Been a member for the last 3 or 4 years. The club venue is good,
the music on the downstairs floor is OK, and the top venue is hard tecnho crap.
I basically go there to see my friends rather than for any other reason. Going
there tomorrow, actually - I'll be the one in black *g*
Mark Fowler sent the following bits through the ether:
Don't see why this isn't possible
Indeed. All you need to do this is:
o bytecode and a virtual machine
o some way of instrumenting said VM to save interesting info
o ability to rewrite bytecode on fly
OK, I give you Perl, the Perl
On Fri, Apr 27, 2001 at 12:25:23PM +0100, Barbie wrote:
I always knew Manchester was the centre of the Universe.
Ahem.
I suggest you go look at the entry for NY.pm at
http://www.pm.org/groups/north_america.shtml :-)
dha
--
David H. Adler - [EMAIL PROTECTED] - http://www.panix.com/~dha/
On Fri, 27 Apr 2001, you wrote:
On Fri, 27 Apr 2001, Robin Szemeti wrote:
On Fri, 27 Apr 2001, someone who Robin's attrib to fscked up wrote:
[side note: I did just see a bizarre thread in macosx-dev where
one guy claimed his FFT code was executing faster in Java than C
because its
Friday, April 27, 2001, 1:09:05 PM, Robin Szemeti wrote:
RS but in the end (assuming that both
RS codesets use similar basic principles) you will not beat the speed of C
RS with anything other than hand optimised assembler. Now that is a fact.
Sounds much more like a function of the compiler to
On Fri, Apr 27, 2001 at 02:30:20PM +0100, Jonathan Peterson wrote:
I blame majordomo, when's that mailman thing getting here?
Actually that's my fault I said I'd look into it about a year ago (or
so it feels). I'll do it this weekend. As to whether penderel gets used
for this mailing list is
On Fri, Apr 27, 2001 at 11:45:40AM +0100, Leon Brocard wrote:
It helps a lot (and is also blindingly easy to benchmark yourself ;-).
Clearly says someone who's hasn't installed Oracle recently!
[This is after all the point of community lists is to ask questions
of others who've already done it
Friday, April 27, 2001, 2:20:21 PM, Paul Makepeace wrote:
PM On Fri, Apr 27, 2001 at 01:51:38PM -0500, Mike Jarvis wrote:
Sounds much more like a function of the compiler to me. A
really good Fortran compiler would turn out faster code than a bad c
compiler.
PM But that isn't saying much.
Blueberry and Madge.web bit the dust in the last couple of days. If
you know any good graphics people, HTML slaves, coders and so on with
the right attitude, and Lord knows many of you are now acquainted with
Reading Room's attitute, would y'all be so kind as to let me (or them
directly ;-)
David Cantrell [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Yeah, but only testing it on one browser, ignoring the - what, 30%? - that
don't use IE - that's kinda silly.
On a random band's site that number is more like, per hits:
3959719 IE
662895 Netscape
10 the rest
It's a pity, but it's life.
(And
Paul Makepeace [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
On Thu, Apr 26, 2001 at 10:33:36PM +0100, Robin Szemeti wrote:
well .. it *does* handle them .. but ,,, errr .. sort of non cascading
IYSWIM ...
No it doesn't. It has almost no clue about stylesheets at all. Have you
ever developed a CSS site for
Dave Cross [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Too late!
Dave...
[feeling smug]
Enjoy it while it lasts...
--
Dave Hodgkinson, http://www.hodgkinson.org
Editor-in-chief, The Highway Star http://www.deep-purple.com
Interim CTO, web server farms,
On Fri, Apr 27, 2001 at 06:50:18PM +0100, Leon Brocard wrote:
OK, I give you Perl, the Perl debugger, and B::Generate. First one to
optimise Perl code (maybe replacing bits of Perl with XS on the fly?)
gets a pat on the back.
I think NI-S is working on it; see recent perl6-language discussion
On Fri, Apr 27, 2001 at 05:50:15PM +0100, Jonathan Peterson wrote:
How can you fall over doing one step forward one step backward with your
arms out for balance?
Or was it the one where you hold you arms over your head in an
impression of someone trying to get out of a too-tight jumper in
On Fri, Apr 27, 2001 at 05:55:06PM -0400, Alex Page wrote:
Blimey, there's an Oxford perl mongers! You mean I'm not the
only perl coder in this city?!?
No.
--
I find that anthropomorphism really doesn't help me with a place full
of bugs. -- Megahal (trained on asr), 1998-11-06
On Fri, Apr 27, 2001 at 11:00:40PM +0100, Simon Cozens wrote:
On Fri, Apr 27, 2001 at 05:55:06PM -0400, Alex Page wrote:
Blimey, there's an Oxford perl mongers! You mean I'm not the
only perl coder in this city?!?
No.
By which I mean, yes, you're not. And, of course, we've got Malcolm
On Fri, Apr 27, 2001 at 05:50:50PM +0100, Lucy McWilliam wrote:
Long dark hair, ankhs and beer - the Egyptions were the original goths.
Hmmph. Goths wouldn't know good beer if it grabbed them by the goolies
and swung them round over its head whilst shouting I'm good beer, I'm
good beer, and
Can any of you boozy reprobates recommend a boozer in Dublin for a geeky
piss-up?
--
David Cantrell | [EMAIL PROTECTED] | http://www.cantrell.org.uk/david/
Rip, Mix, Burn, unless you're using our latest and greatest
operating system which we couldn't be arsed to complete
PGP
On Fri, Apr 27, 2001 at 11:07:08PM +0100, David Cantrell wrote:
Can any of you boozy reprobates recommend a boozer in Dublin for a geeky
piss-up?
My first recommendation would be the Messrs. Maguire on Burgh Key is a
nice place - very *big* pub (it's on three levels) and serves pretty
good
On Fri, Apr 27, 2001 at 02:26:04PM -0400, David H. Adler wrote:
On Fri, Apr 27, 2001 at 12:25:23PM +0100, Barbie wrote:
I always knew Manchester was the centre of the Universe.
Ahem.
I suggest you go look at the entry for NY.pm at
http://www.pm.org/groups/north_america.shtml :-)
Yes
On Fri, Apr 27, 2001 at 12:16:32PM -0700, Paul Makepeace wrote:
On Fri, Apr 27, 2001 at 11:45:40AM +0100, Leon Brocard wrote:
It helps a lot (and is also blindingly easy to benchmark yourself ;-).
Clearly says someone who's hasn't installed Oracle recently!
Does anyone? Every time I've
On Fri, Apr 27, 2001 at 11:31:16PM +0100, David Cantrell wrote:
On Fri, Apr 27, 2001 at 12:16:32PM -0700, Paul Makepeace wrote:
On Fri, Apr 27, 2001 at 11:45:40AM +0100, Leon Brocard wrote:
It helps a lot (and is also blindingly easy to benchmark yourself ;-).
Clearly says someone
On Fri, Apr 27, 2001 at 06:22:50PM +0100, Jonathan Peterson wrote:
I thought it closed down, actually. Is it still bring your own booze? Do
they still have a silly entrance exam?
Hmm, I'm feeling like this is getting waaay too off-topic, especially while
Dave the Goth is on sabbatical, so...
On Fri, Apr 27, 2001 at 12:16:32PM -0700, Paul Makepeace wrote:
Clearly says someone who's hasn't installed Oracle recently!
You can install Oracle now? Wow, they must have really been fixing it
of late.
--
If the code and the comments disagree, then both are probably wrong.
On Sat, Apr 28, 2001 at 12:09:49AM +0100, Simon Cozens wrote:
On Fri, Apr 27, 2001 at 12:16:32PM -0700, Paul Makepeace wrote:
Clearly says someone who's hasn't installed Oracle recently!
You can install Oracle now? Wow, they must have really been fixing it
of late.
OK, so I cheated, and
On Fri, Apr 27, 2001 at 06:56:22PM -0400, Alex Page wrote:
Hmm, I'm feeling like this is getting waaay too off-topic
What is this off-topic you speak of? Is it a custom of your people?
:-)
--
David H. Adler - [EMAIL PROTECTED] - http://www.panix.com/~dha/
My theory is that his ignorance
On Fri, 27 Apr 2001, you wrote:
Can any of you boozy reprobates recommend a boozer in Dublin for a geeky
piss-up?
thinks... umm .. we sent some of our blokes to Dublin and theres a pub
with a webcam and they used to all go in and wave at as at exactly 12:30
so we could see them when we were
On Fri, Apr 27, 2001 at 07:47:47PM -0400, David H. Adler wrote:
On Fri, Apr 27, 2001 at 06:56:22PM -0400, Alex Page wrote:
Hmm, I'm feeling like this is getting waaay too off-topic
What is this off-topic you speak of? Is it a custom of your people?
Yeah... I'm on this mailing list called
On Sat, 28 Apr 2001, you wrote:
What is this off-topic you speak of? Is it a custom of your people?
Yeah... I'm on this mailing list called goats-fans, for fans of Goats:
the Comic Strip (http://www.goats.com - NOW!), and flaming and off-topic
posting leads to the moderators kicking your
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