Re: NNTP and SNTP (was Re: REVIEW Securing Windows NT/2000 Servers fo r the Internet)

2001-12-03 Thread Matthew Byng-Maddick
On Mon, Dec 03, 2001 at 09:26:15AM +0100, Newton, Philip wrote: Dean Wilson wrote: network time syncing (And why NNTP is better than SNTP, something I could have done with about six months ago.) What are NNTP and SNTP? I presume that NNTP in this context is not the NetNews Transfer

Re: NNTP and SNTP (was Re: REVIEW Securing Windows NT/2000 Servers fo r the Internet)

2001-12-03 Thread Steve Mynott
Matthew Byng-Maddick [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: On Mon, Dec 03, 2001 at 09:26:15AM +0100, Newton, Philip wrote: Dean Wilson wrote: network time syncing (And why NNTP is better than SNTP, something I could have done with about six months ago.) What are NNTP and SNTP? I presume that NNTP

Re: NNTP and SNTP (was Re: REVIEW Securing Windows NT/2000 Servers fo r the Internet)

2001-12-03 Thread Matthew Byng-Maddick
On Mon, Dec 03, 2001 at 12:37:53PM +, Steve Mynott wrote: Matthew Byng-Maddick [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: On Mon, Dec 03, 2001 at 09:26:15AM +0100, Newton, Philip wrote: Dean Wilson wrote: network time syncing (And why NNTP is better than SNTP, something I could have done with

Re: NNTP and SNTP (was Re: REVIEW Securing Windows NT/2000 Servers fo r the Internet)

2001-12-03 Thread Greg McCarroll
* Matthew Byng-Maddick ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote something which I have paraphrased into: DJB requires you to have the rest of the system set up with alternative ways of doing things. You mean like his /services approach, while Evil Dave (whose opinion I respect in sysadmin matters) seems

Restoring Mailman

2001-12-03 Thread Simon Wistow
After the recent outage on our box I'm left with the output of dumpdb for a couple of my mailman lists. I want to reimport the settings from these which appears to be possible according to this ... http://msgs.securepoint.com/cgi-bin/get/mailman-users-0110/328/1.html Restoring a dumpdb file is

Re: Book Reviews

2001-12-03 Thread Lucy McWilliam
On Fri, 30 Nov 2001, Chris Devers wrote: My book showed up last night! :) It seems to be *very* introductory on the Perl side -- actual [tongue in cheek] bullet points from chapter two: * What is a computer program? * What is a programming language? * What is a computer? Us

Re: NNTP and SNTP (was Re: REVIEW Securing Windows NT/2000 Servers fo r the Internet)

2001-12-03 Thread Matthew Byng-Maddick
On Mon, Dec 03, 2001 at 01:22:25PM +, Greg McCarroll wrote: * Matthew Byng-Maddick ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote something which I have paraphrased into: DJB requires you to have the rest of the system set up with alternative ways of doing things. You mean like his /services approach,

Re: NNTP and SNTP (was Re: REVIEW Securing Windows NT/2000 Servers fo r the Internet)

2001-12-03 Thread Matthew Byng-Maddick
On Mon, Dec 03, 2001 at 01:16:40PM +, Steve Mynott wrote: Matthew Byng-Maddick [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: On Mon, Dec 03, 2001 at 12:37:53PM +, Steve Mynott wrote: Matthew Byng-Maddick [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: [..] Apparently XNTP doesn't handle leap seconds correctly You mean

Re: Book Reviews

2001-12-03 Thread Matthew Byng-Maddick
On Mon, Dec 03, 2001 at 03:14:56PM +0100, Newton, Philip wrote: Lucy McWilliam wrote: .sdrawkcab etirw dna daer su fo emos, yllautcA. Stsirorret Cibara lla er'uoy naem taht seod? I'm just waiting for the US Citizens on this list to pounce on you and say that this is in bad taste. MBM -- *

Re: Book Reviews

2001-12-03 Thread Chris Devers
On Mon, 3 Dec 2001, Alex Gough wrote: On Fri, 30 Nov 2001, Chris Devers wrote: My book showed up last night! :) It seems to be *very* introductory on the Perl side -- actual [tongue in cheek] bullet points from chapter two: * What is a computer program? * What is

Re: IRC

2001-12-03 Thread David Cantrell
On Mon, Dec 03, 2001 at 03:28:28PM +, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Newbie delurking for the first time, trying to get onto the irc channel #London.pm. Server's refusing my connection, anyone else on at the moment ( I start hunting on my box then ). There's always someone in the channel.

Re: IRC

2001-12-03 Thread Greg McCarroll
* [EMAIL PROTECTED] ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: Hi all, Newbie delurking for the first time, trying to get onto the irc channel #London.pm. Server's refusing my connection, anyone else on at the moment ( I start hunting on my box then ). try irc.rhizomatic.net #london.pm

RE: Re: IRC

2001-12-03 Thread David . Neal
Nope, busted somewhere here then. Using www.missingU.com/irc/ as a public webchat client ( behind fireway, so no inhouse chat ), getting the following response Connecting to london.rhizomatic.net:6667 - have tried irc. too Waiting for serber to respond Connection closed Cannot connect to

Re: NNTP and SNTP (was Re: REVIEW Securing Windows NT/2000 Servers fo r the Internet)

2001-12-03 Thread Matthew Byng-Maddick
On Mon, Dec 03, 2001 at 03:26:09PM +, Steve Mynott wrote: ftp://oozelum.csi.cam.ac.uk/dist/msntp-1.5.tar.gz which doesn't ping (looks like an unplugged student's desktop machine from the domain I would guess) csi = computing services internal. not a student. Someone who knows a fuck lot

Re: NNTP and SNTP (was Re: REVIEW Securing Windows NT/2000 Servers fo r the Internet)

2001-12-03 Thread Matthew Byng-Maddick
On Mon, Dec 03, 2001 at 03:26:09PM +, Steve Mynott wrote: Matthew Byng-Maddick [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: On Mon, Dec 03, 2001 at 01:16:40PM +, Steve Mynott wrote: [..] What's non-portable about djbware? I have had no problems compiling That it doesn't interoperate sensibly with

Re: Re: IRC

2001-12-03 Thread Robin Houston
On Mon, Dec 03, 2001 at 03:51:01PM +, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Nope, busted somewhere here then. Using www.missingU.com/irc/ as a public webchat client ( behind fireway, so no inhouse chat ), getting the following response http://www.chickshardware.com/emb/mouselike/008846881x3.html

Re: NNTP and SNTP (was Re: REVIEW Securing Windows NT/2000 Servers fo r the Internet)

2001-12-03 Thread David Cantrell
On Mon, Dec 03, 2001 at 04:08:57PM +, Matthew Byng-Maddick wrote: On Mon, Dec 03, 2001 at 03:26:09PM +, Steve Mynott wrote: It's hard to do even simple things properly and securely in computer programming. So its best to implement the mimimal amount of code on the basis there

Re: web server identification

2001-12-03 Thread Chris Ball
On Mon, Dec 03, 2001 at 04:38:04PM +, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I reckon it ought to be fairly easy to identify a web server based on error messages and details of responses. It is. That, and it usually tells you. Is there any software out there that already does this, or evidence as to

Re: web server identification

2001-12-03 Thread Chris Devers
On Mon, 3 Dec 2001 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I reckon it ought to be fairly easy to identify a web server based on error messages and details of responses. But that sort of thing can be munged. Can you query $ENV{server_software}? Even if you could, that can me munged too. Is there any

Re: NNTP and SNTP (was Re: REVIEW Securing Windows NT/2000 Servers fo r the Internet)

2001-12-03 Thread Greg McCarroll
* Matthew Byng-Maddick ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: Bully for you! Remember, arguments are not won on mailing lists[1] with phrases like the above. Of course, humour is always IMHO welcome, and a smiley goes a long way to identifying a phrase like the above as humour before it gets out of

Re: web server identification

2001-12-03 Thread David Cantrell
On Mon, Dec 03, 2001 at 04:38:04PM +, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I reckon it ought to be fairly easy to identify a web server based on error messages and details of responses. Is there any software out there that already does this, or evidence as to why it would be impractical? It's

Re: Where would you like to go today?

2001-12-03 Thread Dominic Mitchell
Dave Hodgkinson [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Well they should bloody stop gloating about having Christmas barbecues on the beach then! Ummm, it's not that bad, my christmas turkey was done on a barbie last year, and very yummy it was too. -Dom -- | Semantico: creators of major online resources

Re: web server identification

2001-12-03 Thread Leon Brocard
[EMAIL PROTECTED] sent the following bits through the ether: That doesn't actually *say*, but it sounds like it just uses the Server: header to work out what web server you're running. It does. I never got around to releasing the module when I was working there. Anyway, I was *convinced*

Re: web server identification

2001-12-03 Thread the hatter
On Mon, 3 Dec 2001 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm thinking of more or less the same functionality as (iirc) queso, which will guess a machine's OS from looking at responses to various interesting network packets. I'd think that, even if they change/remove the Server: header that the other

Re: web server identification

2001-12-03 Thread Steve Mynott
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I'm thinking of more or less the same functionality as (iirc) queso, which will guess a machine's OS from looking at responses to various interesting network packets. There are only a few web servers in common use (Apache, IIS and iPlanet (formerly Netscape) and

Re: An unsatisfactory review of the XSLT book

2001-12-03 Thread Andy Wardley
On Sat, Dec 01, 2001 at 01:13:24PM +, Dave Hodgkinson wrote: XML, I get. Having tight, defined data formats is a good thing. Being able to transform that data for many different media is also a good thing but the hoops you have to jump through to get any results at all seem daunting. I

Re: An unsatisfactory review of the XSLT book

2001-12-03 Thread Roger Burton West
On Mon, Dec 03, 2001 at 03:37:15PM +, Andy Wardley wrote: In this world there are two kinds of people. Packers and Mappers. I'd find this whole argument (see http://www.reciprocality.org/ if you haven't met it before) a great deal more convincing if it weren't so obvious that every reader

Re: An unsatisfactory review of the XSLT book

2001-12-03 Thread Dave Hodgkinson
Andy Wardley [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: So don't worry Dave if you think you don't get it. You do. No really, you've got it. It's the rest of the World that is fucked up. Honest. Can I have some money please? -- David Hodgkinson, Wizard for Hirehttp://www.davehodgkinson.com

Re: web server identification

2001-12-03 Thread Chris Devers
On 3 Dec 2001, Steve Mynott wrote: Obvious things are is the response 200 or 404 for requests for default.htm or index.html? We're going in circles here, but if it's up to me, I like to tell Apache to map all .htm files to .html, and in the case of home pages I redirect requests for

Re: [OT] Antialiased fonts...

2001-12-03 Thread Paul Makepeace
On Sun, Dec 02, 2001 at 01:00:10PM -0600, Chris Devers wrote: Do I have to go KDE? Can any of the X-Windows based systems do it well these days? It's been a I use KDE2.2 and while I'm in awe of it in general I was disappoined by the anti-aliasing. First off I haven't yet managed to get it

Re: NNTP and SNTP (was Re: REVIEW Securing Windows NT/2000 Servers fo r the Internet)

2001-12-03 Thread Tom Hukins
On Mon, Dec 03, 2001 at 03:14:28PM +, Steve Mynott wrote: /var is intended for machine specific files (traditionally /usr is machine common files and often used to exist as an NFS mount). A mail setup is machine specific and lives on /var. I'd argue that the binaries belong in /usr/bin

Re: [OT] Antialiased fonts...

2001-12-03 Thread David Cantrell
On Mon, Dec 03, 2001 at 11:52:45AM -0800, Paul Makepeace wrote: Hmm, Aqua could IMO be greatly improved by simple things like Alt-Tab switching back to tasks rather than always in one direction, ability to perform common operations with the keyboard (e.g. launch programs!) and having the damn

Re: Publicity Stunts/Advocacy Suggestions?

2001-12-03 Thread Patrick Carmichael
If you're alluding to Reading FC's descent towards the Unibond League, then that doesn't actually apply to me ... Wimbledon fan, man and boy ... so .. oh yeah .. right .. OK, point taken. PC On Sun, 2 Dec 2001, Anthony Fisher wrote: Arrange a football contest with teams of trained

Re: [OT] Antialiased fonts...

2001-12-03 Thread Chris Devers
On Mon, 3 Dec 2001, Paul Makepeace wrote: On Mon, Dec 03, 2001 at 09:12:20PM +, David Cantrell wrote: It also needs an squiggle-tab mechanism for switching between windows of the same app - I want to cycle between all my Terminals and my Omniweb windows At least with Terminal you