Re: Advocacy link fest

2002-01-27 Thread Lucy McWilliam
On Sat, 26 Jan 2002, Nicholas Clark wrote: But I don't want to say Powered by nms Perl scripts because I don't have any perl scripts on my site. I'd like to say use nms Perl scripts or something like that, something with text that matches typical search terms. [no, not a

Re: Advocacy link fest

2002-01-26 Thread Chris Benson
On Sat, Jan 26, 2002 at 02:24:15AM +, robin szemeti wrote: you can have much more fun mailing the producers and directors personally than using those 'wastebasket' emails they read out at the end. Score: 110/100 on the cynicism meter. :-) -- Chris Benson

Re: Advocacy link fest

2002-01-26 Thread Robin Houston
And on PageRank specifically, _The PageRank Citation Ranking: Bringing Order to the Web_. http://citeseer.nj.nec.com/page98pagerank.html I don't think it's publicly known _exactly_ what combination of factors Google uses in its ranking algorithm, but if your page has good textual relevance

Re: Advocacy link fest

2002-01-26 Thread Nicholas Clark
On Sat, Jan 26, 2002 at 02:53:59AM +, Lucy McWilliam wrote: On Fri, 25 Jan 2002, Nicholas Clark wrote: Do we have a nice bit of official standards compliant HTML for a link for cargo cult web page writing? :-) [Better still, do we have one to put on the NMS page to encourage people

Re: Advocacy link fest

2002-01-26 Thread Newton, Philip
Paul Makepeace wrote: There's another issue where hyphenated URLs broken across a newline contain dashes -- is that dash part of the URL or not? (assuming it's not correctly marked up with an a) The German computer magazine c't, IIRC, uses the convention of breaking a word in two without

Re: Advocacy link fest

2002-01-26 Thread Tony Bowden
On Fri, Jan 25, 2002 at 12:23:10PM -0800, Paul Makepeace wrote: On Fri, Jan 25, 2002 at 02:28:01PM +, Chris Carline wrote: The structure of the HTML page is also extremely important in how searched-for words are weighted in the engine - namely, if search terms appear in titles and

Re: Advocacy link fest

2002-01-26 Thread Chris Carline
On Sat, Jan 26, 2002 at 02:44:06AM +, Lucy McWilliam wrote: On Fri, 25 Jan 2002, Paul Makepeace wrote: On Fri, Jan 25, 2002 at 02:28:01PM +, Chris Carline wrote: The structure of the HTML page is also extremely important in how searched-for words are weighted in the engine -

Re: Advocacy link fest

2002-01-26 Thread Jonathan Stowe
On Fri, 25 Jan 2002, Chris Devers wrote: On Fri, 25 Jan 2002, Chris Benson wrote: And the URL again, is accent role=bbc-announcerh-t-t-p-colon-forwardslash- forwardslash-nms-cgi-dot-sourceforge-dot-net/accent So would the BBC not pronounce the dash in 'nms-cgi', or would they

Re: Advocacy link fest

2002-01-26 Thread Chris Devers
On Sat, 26 Jan 2002, Newton, Philip wrote: (a) using smart quotes when illustrating strings in program code [snip] or (b) using en dashes rather than double hyphens in program options. The overzealous helpfulness of Word in this area is infuriating, and it's what made me basically stop using

Re: Advocacy link fest

2002-01-26 Thread Alex Page
On Fri, Jan 25, 2002 at 01:50:26PM +, Dave Thorn wrote: From this it follows that everyone who runs a website should link to nms from their homepage, or as close to it as possible, to get it shoved up the list a bit. I've linked to it from http://www.fuckedgoths.com/, which seems to

Advocacy link fest

2002-01-25 Thread Simon Wilcox
Reading Dave's perl.com article and the threads about advocacy, I had a thought. Google promotes sites based on being linked to. From this it follows that everyone who runs a website should link to nms from their homepage, or as close to it as possible, to get it shoved up the list a bit. Oh,

Re: Advocacy link fest

2002-01-25 Thread Dave Thorn
On Fri, Jan 25, 2002 at 01:26:14PM +, Simon Wilcox wrote: From this it follows that everyone who runs a website should link to nms from their homepage, or as close to it as possible, to get it shoved up the list a bit. I've linked to it from http://www.fuckedgoths.com/, which seems to

Re: Advocacy link fest

2002-01-25 Thread Robin Houston
On Fri, Jan 25, 2002 at 01:26:14PM +, Simon Wilcox wrote: Google promotes sites based on being linked to. From this it follows that everyone who runs a website should link to nms from their homepage, or as close to it as possible, to get it shoved up the list a bit. It's also worth

Re: Advocacy link fest

2002-01-25 Thread Chris Carline
On Fri, Jan 25, 2002 at 01:26:14PM +, Simon Wilcox wrote: Reading Dave's perl.com article and the threads about advocacy, I had a thought. Google promotes sites based on being linked to. That's just one aspect of how google ranks sites, but its effect is less than you might think.

Re: Advocacy link fest

2002-01-25 Thread Barbie [home]
- Original Message - From: Simon Wilcox [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reading Dave's perl.com article and the threads about advocacy, I had a thought. Google promotes sites based on being linked to. From this it follows that everyone who runs a website should link to nms from their homepage,

Re: Advocacy link fest

2002-01-25 Thread Paul Makepeace
On Fri, Jan 25, 2002 at 02:28:01PM +, Chris Carline wrote: The structure of the HTML page is also extremely important in how searched-for words are weighted in the engine - namely, if search terms appear in titles and headers, or in bold, or in a big font, near the top of a page, then

Re: Advocacy link fest

2002-01-25 Thread Chris Devers
On Fri, 25 Jan 2002, Paul Makepeace wrote: The only page I'm aware of that definitively talks about Google's technology (PageRank) is, http://www.google.com/technology/index.html Google grew out of academic research at Stanford, and there was a series of papers that came out of that work

Re: Advocacy link fest

2002-01-25 Thread Chris Benson
On Fri, Jan 25, 2002 at 01:26:14PM +, Simon Wilcox wrote: Reading Dave's perl.com article and the threads about advocacy, I had a thought. Google promotes sites based on being linked to. From this it follows that everyone who runs a website should link to nms from their homepage,

Re: Advocacy link fest

2002-01-25 Thread Chris Devers
On Fri, 25 Jan 2002, Chris Benson wrote: And the URL again, is accent role=bbc-announcerh-t-t-p-colon-forwardslash- forwardslash-nms-cgi-dot-sourceforge-dot-net/accent So would the BBC not pronounce the dash in 'nms-cgi', or would they pronounce *all* of the dashes you just typed there?

Re: Advocacy link fest

2002-01-25 Thread Chris Benson
On Fri, Jan 25, 2002 at 03:27:12PM -0600, Chris Devers wrote: On Fri, 25 Jan 2002, Chris Benson wrote: And the URL again, is accent role=bbc-announcerh-t-t-p-colon-forwardslash- forwardslash-nms-cgi-dot-sourceforge-dot-net/accent So would the BBC not pronounce the dash in 'nms-cgi',

Re: Advocacy link fest

2002-01-25 Thread Paul Makepeace
On Fri, Jan 25, 2002 at 10:03:16PM +, Chris Benson wrote: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ?? [EMAIL PROTECTED]?? [EMAIL PROTECTED] ?? [EMAIL PROTECTED] ?? - the correct one, grrrh You can hack your mail server to allow for this... *evil grin* In the past I have

Re: Advocacy link fest

2002-01-25 Thread Nicholas Clark
On Fri, Jan 25, 2002 at 01:26:14PM +, Simon Wilcox wrote: Reading Dave's perl.com article and the threads about advocacy, I had a thought. Google promotes sites based on being linked to. From this it follows that everyone who runs a website should link to nms from their homepage,

Re: Advocacy link fest

2002-01-25 Thread Lucy McWilliam
On Fri, 25 Jan 2002, Paul Makepeace wrote: On Fri, Jan 25, 2002 at 02:28:01PM +, Chris Carline wrote: The structure of the HTML page is also extremely important in how searched-for words are weighted in the engine - namely, if search terms appear in titles and headers, or in bold, or

Re: Advocacy link fest

2002-01-25 Thread Lucy McWilliam
On Fri, 25 Jan 2002, Chris Benson wrote: On Fri, Jan 25, 2002 at 01:26:14PM +, Simon Wilcox wrote: Google promotes sites based on being linked to. From this it follows that everyone who runs a website should link to nms from their homepage, or as close to it as possible, to get it

Re: Advocacy link fest

2002-01-25 Thread Lucy McWilliam
On Fri, 25 Jan 2002, Nicholas Clark wrote: Do we have a nice bit of official standards compliant HTML for a link for cargo cult web page writing? :-) [Better still, do we have one to put on the NMS page to encourage people to link to it] Try reading the nms page ;-) L. Asase - an enzyme