Re: Perl / UTF-8 (Was Re: WWW::Map::UK::Streetmap - A tale of woe)

2003-02-12 Thread Roger Horne
On Tue 11 Feb, Dirk Koopman wrote: On Tue, 2003-02-11 at 16:50, Roger Horne wrote: .. So I bought a fastish machine from Digital Networks last year and the time was reduced to 5 minutes on RH 7.2. I then tried it on a reasonably fast netbook on which I had put RH8. After 15 hours I

Re: Perl / UTF-8 (Was Re: WWW::Map::UK::Streetmap - A tale of woe)

2003-02-12 Thread Dirk Koopman
On Wed, 2003-02-12 at 12:45, Roger Horne wrote: Methinks there is much smelly fish in Perl 5.8.0 UTF implementation and also in RH8.0's internationalisation stuff / port of perl. A standard 'cure' seems to be to rename /etc/sysconfig/i18n to something else (eg i18n.orig) and then restart

Re: Perl / UTF-8 (Was Re: WWW::Map::UK::Streetmap - A tale of woe)

2003-02-11 Thread Roger Horne
On Tue 11 Feb, Dave Hodgkinson wrote: Hrm, perl doesn't use UTF-8 for it's internal representation of strings ? I may be misremembering things somewhat. The cloudy things I remember are that the version of perl shipped with RH8 uses a slightly geb0rken 16 bit implementation (who is the guy

Re: Perl / UTF-8 (Was Re: WWW::Map::UK::Streetmap - A tale of woe)

2003-02-11 Thread Dirk Koopman
On Tue, 2003-02-11 at 16:50, Roger Horne wrote: On Tue 11 Feb, Dave Hodgkinson wrote: Hrm, perl doesn't use UTF-8 for it's internal representation of strings ? I may be misremembering things somewhat. The cloudy things I remember are that the version of perl shipped with RH8 uses a

Re: Perl / UTF-8 (Was Re: WWW::Map::UK::Streetmap - A tale of woe)

2003-02-11 Thread Sean McGlynn
On Tuesday 11 February 2003 17:54, Dirk Koopman wrote: On Tue, 2003-02-11 at 16:50, Roger Horne wrote: On Tue 11 Feb, Dave Hodgkinson wrote: Hrm, perl doesn't use UTF-8 for it's internal representation of strings ? I may be misremembering things somewhat. The cloudy things I

Re: Perl / UTF-8 (Was Re: WWW::Map::UK::Streetmap - A tale of woe)

2003-02-11 Thread Nicholas Clark
On Tue, Feb 11, 2003 at 05:54:14PM +, Dirk Koopman wrote: Methinks there is much smelly fish in Perl 5.8.0 UTF implementation and Well, UTF8 is a variable length encoding, so many O(1) things become O(N) I think that's most of the smelly fish. also in RH8.0's internationalisation stuff /

Re: Perl / UTF-8 (Was Re: WWW::Map::UK::Streetmap - A tale of woe)

2003-02-11 Thread David Cantrell
On Tue, Feb 11, 2003 at 08:56:01PM +, Nicholas Clark wrote: Given the feedback on suggestions about perl debugger tutorials, I don't think many perl *users* use the debugger, so to me that explains why no-one in the world noticed it sooner. To most perl users, the debugger is not