Re: Web client application survey

2001-07-04 Thread Simon Wistow
Dave Hodgkinson wrote: > Hey, Toronto rocks! Unfortunatley I was staying in Mississauga which basically an industrial estate outside Toronto. And it was fricking freezing. I stayed up for the first 48 hours I was there and by the end of it I thought I was a humming bird. http://www.twoshortpl

Re: Web client application survey

2001-07-04 Thread Dave Hodgkinson
Simon Wistow <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > I spent nearly three weeks in Toronto working on it during February > having been pimped out to a company called Certicom who, AFAIK, worked > on the reference version with RSA. Hey, Toronto rocks! -- Dave Hodgkinson, http:

Re: Web client application survey

2001-07-04 Thread Simon Wistow
Robin Szemeti wrote: > again, its a while ago I looked at this stuff .. wasn;t there supposed to > be a ssl-a-like that was going to be a standard and in the next > generation of phone ?? Yes, called WTLS which is a crippled version of TLS which is in turn a kind of weakened SSL. I spent nearly

Re: Web client application survey

2001-07-03 Thread Philip Newton
Cross David - dcross wrote: [Linuxformat] > They now have Charlie Stross on the staff writing all their > Perl articles. And Charlie's Perl is pretty sound. Hmm... wonder when he'll do an article on Perl-Intercal by his mate the Lunatic :) Cheers, Philip -- Philip Newton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> All

Re: Web client application survey

2001-07-03 Thread Roger Burton West
On or about Tue, Jul 03, 2001 at 04:28:16PM +0100, Cross David - dcross typed: >Mind you, they _are_ getting better. They now have Charlie Stross on the >staff writing all their Perl articles. And Charlie's Perl is pretty sound. PC Magazine _did_ have me writing some Perl stuff, but all that's no

RE: Web client application survey

2001-07-03 Thread Cross David - dcross
From: Barbie <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Tuesday, July 03, 2001 4:05 PM [Perl advocacy via Linux Format Poll] > Mind you is this a good thing, it'll only mean they'll plug Mr Wright even > more, as they don't seem to be too aware of other site offering resources. > .net magazine is worse though, i

Re: Web client application survey

2001-07-03 Thread Barbie
> > > Current standings: > > Perl 73.68 % (1064) > > I just dont know how that could have happened ;} Hmm, I wonder :) Mind you is this a good thing, it'll only mean they'll plug Mr Wright even more, as they don't seem to be too aware of other site offering resources. .net magazine is worse tho

Re: Web client application survey

2001-07-03 Thread Greg McCarroll
* Jonathan Stowe ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: > On Tue, 3 Jul 2001, Cross David - dcross wrote: > > > > Whilst we're looking at stuff like this, Linux Format has a "What's Your > > Favourite Development Language" poll on the front page at > > . > > > > Current standings

RE: Web client application survey

2001-07-03 Thread Lee Goddard
> > "Lee Goddard" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > > > > Dave Hodgkinson 03 July 2001 09:21: > > > > And where's Objective-C? > > > > > > Sleeping it off with Fortran and Forth, I hope. > > > > so what's perl6 going to be coded in...? You're asking me? Well, I hope it ain't gonna be Fortran or Fo

Re: Web client application survey

2001-07-03 Thread Dave Hodgkinson
"Lee Goddard" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Dave Hodgkinson 03 July 2001 09:21: > > And where's Objective-C? > > Sleeping it off with Fortran and Forth, I hope. so what's perl6 going to be coded in...? -- Dave Hodgkinson, http://www.hodgkinson.org Editor-in-chief

RE: Web client application survey

2001-07-03 Thread Lee Goddard
Dave Hodgkinson 03 July 2001 09:21: > Nicholas Clark <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > > On Tue, Jul 03, 2001 at 09:08:03AM +0100, Cross David - dcross wrote: > > > From: Paul Makepeace <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > > > > C, C++ 12.8% > > > > > C/C++ 35.43 % (158) > > > > Why do these dumbwit ma

RE: Web client application survey

2001-07-03 Thread Cross David - dcross
From: Paul Makepeace <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Monday, July 02, 2001 11:47 PM > On Mon, Jul 02, 2001 at 08:50:53PM +0100, Jonathan Stowe wrote: > > It didnae seem enough so I posted the url to http://use.perl.org :) > > ASP 8.1% > C, C++ 12.8% > JSP18.4% > PHP11.0% > Perl 4

Re: Web client application survey

2001-07-03 Thread Nicholas Clark
On Tue, Jul 03, 2001 at 09:08:03AM +0100, Cross David - dcross wrote: > From: Paul Makepeace <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > C, C++ 12.8% > C/C++ 35.43 % (158) Why do these dumbwit marketdroids lump C and C++ together. They are not the same. I like C. I don't like C++ that much. Nick

Re: Web client application survey

2001-07-03 Thread Dave Hodgkinson
Nicholas Clark <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > On Tue, Jul 03, 2001 at 09:08:03AM +0100, Cross David - dcross wrote: > > From: Paul Makepeace <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > > C, C++ 12.8% > > > C/C++ 35.43 % (158) > > Why do these dumbwit marketdroids lump C and C++ together. > They are not the s

Re: Web client application survey

2001-07-02 Thread Greg McCarroll
* Robin Szemeti ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: > On Mon, 02 Jul 2001, Paul Makepeace wrote: > > On Mon, Jul 02, 2001 at 08:50:53PM +0100, Jonathan Stowe wrote: > > > It didnae seem enough so I posted the url to http://use.perl.org :) > > > > ASP 8.1% > > C, C++ 12.8% > > JSP18.4% > > PH

Re: Web client application survey

2001-07-02 Thread Robin Szemeti
On Mon, 02 Jul 2001, Paul Makepeace wrote: > On Mon, Jul 02, 2001 at 08:50:53PM +0100, Jonathan Stowe wrote: > > It didnae seem enough so I posted the url to http://use.perl.org :) > > ASP 8.1% > C, C++ 12.8% > JSP18.4% > PHP11.0% > Perl 44.5% > other 4.8% > > Yeah ba

Re: Web client application survey

2001-07-02 Thread Paul Makepeace
On Mon, Jul 02, 2001 at 08:50:53PM +0100, Jonathan Stowe wrote: > It didnae seem enough so I posted the url to http://use.perl.org :) ASP 8.1% C, C++ 12.8% JSP18.4% PHP11.0% Perl 44.5% other 4.8% Yeah baby yeah! Paul -- Emphasize repetitions

Re: Web client application survey

2001-07-02 Thread Dave Cross
On Mon, Jul 02, 2001 at 02:03:35PM -0400, Chris Devers ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: > At 05:15 AM 2001.07.02 -0400, Andy Williams wrote: > >On Sun, 1 Jul 2001, Jonathan Stowe wrote: > > > >> On Sun, 1 Jul 2001, Paul Makepeace wrote: > >> > > >> > http://soldc.sun.com/polls/index.jshtml > >> > >> I

Re: Web client application survey

2001-07-02 Thread Chris Devers
At 05:15 AM 2001.07.02 -0400, Andy Williams wrote: >On Sun, 1 Jul 2001, Jonathan Stowe wrote: > >> On Sun, 1 Jul 2001, Paul Makepeace wrote: >> > >> > http://soldc.sun.com/polls/index.jshtml >> >> I forwarded your message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . > >That seems to have done the trick: > >ASP11.1%

Re: Web client application survey

2001-07-02 Thread Andy Williams
On Sun, 1 Jul 2001, Jonathan Stowe wrote: > On Sun, 1 Jul 2001, Paul Makepeace wrote: > > > > Perl has stormed into 2nd place, still way behind JSP by 9pts, way ahead > > of PHP but only a marginal lead over C/C++. Someone should post this to > > clpmisc and "slashdot" it. > > > > http://soldc.su

Re: Web client application survey

2001-07-01 Thread Paul Makepeace
On Fri, Jun 29, 2001 at 12:41:03PM -0700, Paul Makepeace wrote: > Sun are running a poll on their Developer Connection front page for > web-app languages. JSP is the current leader with 31%! Perl, > fractionally behind PHP and barely ahead of ASP, is flagging with only > 15%. Suspiciously C/C++ is

Re: Web client application survey

2001-06-30 Thread Dave Hodgkinson
Greg McCarroll <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > * Matthew Byng-Maddick ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: > > On Fri, Jun 29, 2001 at 12:41:03PM -0700, Paul Makepeace wrote: > > > 15%. Suspiciously C/C++ is at 21%. WhoTF uses C/C++ to develop > > > web apps?? > > > > At least one of the places I interviewe

Re: Web client application survey

2001-06-30 Thread Matthew Byng-Maddick
On Sat, Jun 30, 2001 at 08:59:27AM +0100, Greg McCarroll wrote: > * Matthew Byng-Maddick ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: > > On Fri, Jun 29, 2001 at 12:41:03PM -0700, Paul Makepeace wrote: > > > 15%. Suspiciously C/C++ is at 21%. WhoTF uses C/C++ to develop > > > web apps?? > > At least one of the plac

Re: Web client application survey

2001-06-30 Thread Greg McCarroll
* Matthew Byng-Maddick ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: > On Fri, Jun 29, 2001 at 12:41:03PM -0700, Paul Makepeace wrote: > > 15%. Suspiciously C/C++ is at 21%. WhoTF uses C/C++ to develop > > web apps?? > > At least one of the places I interviewed at does. > well back in the day, you used to be able

Re: Web client application survey

2001-06-29 Thread Matthew Byng-Maddick
On Fri, Jun 29, 2001 at 12:41:03PM -0700, Paul Makepeace wrote: > 15%. Suspiciously C/C++ is at 21%. WhoTF uses C/C++ to develop > web apps?? At least one of the places I interviewed at does. MBM -- Matthew Byng-Maddick <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> http://colondot.net/

Web client application survey

2001-06-29 Thread Paul Makepeace
Sun are running a poll on their Developer Connection front page for web-app languages. JSP is the current leader with 31%! Perl, fractionally behind PHP and barely ahead of ASP, is flagging with only 15%. Suspiciously C/C++ is at 21%. WhoTF uses C/C++ to develop web apps?? http://soldc.sun.com/