[Ltsp-discuss] Re:SUBMISSION: Generating Etherboot Floppies on Remote LTSP Clients

2002-09-25 Thread Philip A. Roa
To: Jim McQuillan, LTSP Hi Jim, Just wondering if my email went through to you last Sept 23 & 24. I sent it to your ltsp.org and McQuill addresses. Thanks and Regards, phil --- This sf.net email is sponsored by:ThinkGeek Welcome to geek h

Re: [Ltsp-discuss] Failover and load balancing question....

2002-09-25 Thread Hans Ekbrand
On Wed, Sep 25, 2002 at 09:57:37PM -0400, Michael Marschall wrote: > With the exception that the users currently logged in to the server > that goes down will lose their sessions, a reboot of the workstations > should give a login prompt to the server that is left. > > Actually you will not need

Re: [Ltsp-discuss] window managers

2002-09-25 Thread Phil Driscoll
On Wednesday 25 September 2002 3:13 pm, Joseph wrote: > I would be interested in hearing what everyone thinks is best for a ltsp > window manager. For our setup (120 LTSP stations in a school already running over 200 Windows boxes) we were trying to acheive something with the closest look and fee

Re: [Ltsp-discuss] window managers

2002-09-25 Thread jurgen . defurne
I have done a little evaluation of qvwm, but I haven't tried out the audio features yet. It is neat and small. If you want to use it to change over from Win desktops, I really think it is the way to go. You have basically the same setup as Win95/98/NT, with a configurable desktop, a start butto

[Ltsp-discuss] I tried it, but ....

2002-09-25 Thread Ronald Wiplinger
Hi, I am new here! I have a Thin Client without disk and use PXE to boot from the (Linux) server. I downloaded for it the bpbatch package and could make a nice menu, where as next I want to load the Linux OS. I put into the bpbatch script just the lines: Set CacheNever="ON" LinuxBoot "vmlinu

[Ltsp-discuss] Wrapper script (Former: seeking comment on configuration ofLTSPServer)

2002-09-25 Thread Stephen Liu
Hi Peter, At 12:58 AM 9/26/2002 -0400, Peter Billson wrote: >A way to deal with Mozilla (or Netscape) crashing and running away is > to use a wrapper script to start Mozilla. > >#!/bin/bash >/usr/bin/killall -9 mozilla-bin >/usr/bin/killall -9 java_vm >{command to start mozilla goes here} >

Re: [Ltsp-discuss] Failover and load balancing question....

2002-09-25 Thread Michael Marschall
With the exception that the users currently logged in to the server that goes down will lose their sessions, a reboot of the workstations should give a login prompt to the server that is left. Actually you will not need to reboot the workstations. Either the X server will stop and XDMCP will go o

[Ltsp-discuss] server without monitor dies

2002-09-25 Thread Charlie Brown
I recently put my LTSP server in a closet and removed the monitor. Now I can only connect to it if I catch it as it comes up from a reboot. If I try after a few minutes all I get is the grey screen with the "cross-hairs" I think X is dying because the monitor is gone. How do I configure it to igno

Re: [Ltsp-discuss] Seeking comment on configuration of LTSPServer.

2002-09-25 Thread Peter Billson
John and *, A way to deal with Mozilla (or Netscape) crashing and running away is to use a wrapper script to start Mozilla. #!/bin/bash /usr/bin/killall -9 mozilla-bin /usr/bin/killall -9 java_vm {command to start mozilla goes here} WARNING - don't use this for root! You'll kill everyone!

Re: [Ltsp-discuss] Seeking comment on configuration of LTSP Server.

2002-09-25 Thread Stephen Liu
Hi John, Thanks for your comment. At 07:36 PM 9/25/2002 +0100, John McCreesh wrote: >Looks fine to me, even with a memory hog like Mozilla. If your terminals >are half decent spec, I'd look at running Mozilla as a local app on >them. You'll avoid some of the grief that comes from using Flash on

Re: [Ltsp-discuss] Failover and load balancing question....

2002-09-25 Thread Hans Ekbrand
On Wed, Sep 25, 2002 at 02:16:40PM -0400, David Johnston wrote: > On Wed, 2002-09-25 at 05:19, Tom Lisjac wrote: [...] > > I'd like to set these labs up in other schools but the single point > > of failure and lack of scalability makes me nervous > > > > I'd like to add another identical P-III 450

[Ltsp-discuss] Problem with ISA/VLB(non-PCI) Client

2002-09-25 Thread Martin Herweg
Hi! Today at our LUG meeting we tried to set up an old ISA/VLB(non-PCI) 486 PC as an LTSP Client - without success. I think the problem is located in the initrd, because scanning of /proc/bus/pci/devices fails - there is no PCI Bus or Controller. After taht the script is acting like I have

[Ltsp-discuss] Which is the best solution ???

2002-09-25 Thread Gaurav Prasad
hanX bill,   Could u suggest me which of this is  a better solution ?? Scenario We do BPO(Background processing office)we have many clients ...like Exxon Mobil Western Union phone pay etc we have teams which manage these accounts whom we call a process ...Now each of team ha

Re: [Ltsp-discuss] Failover and load balancing question....

2002-09-25 Thread David Johnston
On Wed, 2002-09-25 at 05:19, Tom Lisjac wrote: > > I'm new to the list and apologize if this question has been asked > before. My searches have come up empty so I thought I'd ask here. > > Over the Summer, I've set up an LTSP system with 10 terminals at a local > elementary school. > I'd like to

Re: [Ltsp-discuss] Fanless PSU's

2002-09-25 Thread Steven Edgar
Great tip, thanks. I presume you were referring to the FlexATX http://www.fspgroup.co.uk/products/pcpower/flexatx12v.asp Saves me about 1cm in height, however I happened to take a look at their OpenFrame power supplies. Looks to me like one of their quad output open frame set top box supplies

Re: [Ltsp-discuss] window managers

2002-09-25 Thread Joseph
The responses are great. I am taking a look at the different ones and am impressed with different values. On Wed, 2002-09-25 at 15:17, Tom Lisjac wrote: > > I would be interested in hearing what everyone thinks is best for a ltsp > > window manager. > > We use IceWM 1.2.1. It's very fast, confi

Re: [Ltsp-discuss] window managers

2002-09-25 Thread Bhaskar S. Manda
On Wed, 25 Sep 2002 19:31:56 +0100, John McCreesh wrote > And it was pretty, but it was still *slow* ... so here I am, one > month later, back with XFce. I've got buttons to click on to run One window manager I don't hear people talking about is Olvwm. It is small (1240 kB) and has features rar

Re: [Ltsp-discuss] Seeking comment on configuration of LTSP Server.

2002-09-25 Thread John McCreesh
Looks fine to me, even with a memory hog like Mozilla. If your terminals are half decent spec, I'd look at running Mozilla as a local app on them. You'll avoid some of the grief that comes from using Flash on remote workstations, and if one terminal does lock up, no-one else will be affected. Joh

Re: [Ltsp-discuss] window managers

2002-09-25 Thread John McCreesh
On 25 Sep 2002 11:13:40 -0400 Joseph <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I would be interested in hearing what everyone thinks is best for a > ltsp window manager. I just upgraded my LTSP server at home, and thought that at last we could use the latest KDE / Gnome with all the really cool eye-candy. An

Re: [Ltsp-discuss] init does not run (cont, not a new problem)

2002-09-25 Thread jam
Michael, What does the error message say ? And, why do you want to do a chroot ? You really don't need to after doing the pivot_root. Also, good to see someone up in Calumet using LTSP. I lived in Hancock for 3 years, and know the area well. Jim McQuillan [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Wed, 25 Sep 2

[Ltsp-discuss] init does not run (cont, not a new problem)

2002-09-25 Thread Michael Truog
This is the same problem that Ian Neilson had (refer to his posting 2002-07-30 03:07). Hasn't anyone else experienced this with the current ltsp_initrd_kit (3.0.5)... It seems as if init isn't finding /etc/inittab because chroot was not used after pivot_root at the end of /linuxrc on the initi

Re: SV: [Ltsp-discuss] Forwarding dhcp request

2002-09-25 Thread jam
On Wed, 25 Sep 2002, Jason A. Pattie wrote: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA1 > > Yep. You need a DHCP relay agent setup on each "hop" between the networks. > I always thought that you configure a dhcp relay agent to send all dhcp requests back to a specific dhcp server. and

[Ltsp-discuss] Seeking comment on configuration of LTSP Server.

2002-09-25 Thread Stephen Liu
Hi All Guys, I am planning to build a LTSP server serving 12 diskless workstations for web surfing only. Hereinafter is the preliminary configuration of the Server CPU AMD Athol 1.4G Motherboard with onboard graphic card, sound card, 4 PCI slots and 3 RAM slots SDRAM

Re: [Ltsp-discuss] window managers

2002-09-25 Thread Phil Davey
On 25 Sep 2002, Joseph wrote: > I would be interested in hearing what everyone thinks is best for a ltsp > window manager. It depends what your definition of 'best' is. Some times you want a full blown KDE/Gnome desktop. Other times, you want something a bit less resource draining, such as icewm.

Re: SV: [Ltsp-discuss] Forwarding dhcp request

2002-09-25 Thread Jason A. Pattie
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Yep. You need a DHCP relay agent setup on each "hop" between the networks. Maria Backlund wrote: > Thanks for all ideas! I'll try to specify the problem. > > We have a testsetup with the structure: > > 192.168.7.2 (client1) > | > 192.168.7.1 / 192.1

[Ltsp-discuss] initab changes

2002-09-25 Thread Joseph
Someone on this list mentioned taking a redhat install and changing one line in the initab file to make it become a ltsp client. Would someone care to share what that change was? Thanks. -- respectfully, Joseph (606)477-7551 --- This sf.n

[Ltsp-discuss] window managers

2002-09-25 Thread Joseph
I would be interested in hearing what everyone thinks is best for a ltsp window manager. I just got done looking at the qvwm manager. Sure is different... -- respectfully, Joseph (606)477-7551 --- This sf.net email is sponsored by:ThinkGeek

[Ltsp-discuss] Flash player mailing list created

2002-09-25 Thread jam
Hello all, Warren Togami has setup a mailing list for discussing the issues with the flash player plug-in running on remote X workstations. Or, should I say "crashing" on remote X workstations. There's been alot of chatter on the bugzilla bug tracking system on the mozilla site, and Warren decid

Re: [Ltsp-discuss] really irritated

2002-09-25 Thread William A. Gatliff
Mike: On Wed, Sep 25, 2002 at 09:34:54AM -0500, Mike Eggleston wrote: > > So, how do I power on this setup? Normally, a momentary pushbutton is supplied by the case vendor. Here's a pinout of an ATX power supply connector, taken from google: http://www.antec-inc.com/pdf/manual/pp153x.pdf Note

Re: [Ltsp-discuss] really irritated

2002-09-25 Thread Bhaskar S. Manda
On Wed, 25 Sep 2002 09:34:54 -0500, Mike Eggleston wrote > there is a header for a power switch and a reset switch. Not > having a power switch (where can I get one or how do I make one) > I put a jumper across the header pins to see if it will power on. > I know this isn't the right way and I nee

[Ltsp-discuss] really irritated

2002-09-25 Thread Mike Eggleston
Ok, with all I have written for computers I thought I was good. I pulled the software for LTS and various other parts and now all is working well. I the components for the first new, real node of what I'm doing. I bought cpu, cpu fan, motherboard, ram, and power supply. I bench tested the po

Re: [Ltsp-discuss] Failover and load balancing question....

2002-09-25 Thread Ragnar Wisløff
Sitat Hans Ekbrand <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > > > IMHO, a setup that only sync when it is needed (once per > login/logout) > is the only thing I would be satisfied with. Even though rsync is > smart, it takes alot of CPU, and to run it frequent is a waste of > CPU. That's fine, and underlines that

Re: [Ltsp-discuss] Failover and load balancing question....

2002-09-25 Thread Hans Ekbrand
On Wed, Sep 25, 2002 at 01:53:06PM +0200, Ragnar Wisløff wrote: > Sitat Hans Ekbrand <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > > > > > > > > rsync from cron. > > > > But what if a user logs out, and in again before the cron job is > > run? > > > > If you have load balancing rather than fail-over then you risk

Re: [Ltsp-discuss] libc6 for the clients

2002-09-25 Thread Michael Marschall
I have ltsp setup on a 333mhz P2 and 256MB of ram. My girlfriend and I use it simulteneously and the ram usage never gets above 110MB. Is it me or are people going RAM crazy? Michael On Wed, 25 Sep 2002 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > Hi ! > > I have a really good working LTSP-solution running at h

Re: [Ltsp-discuss] Failover and load balancing question....

2002-09-25 Thread Ragnar Wisløff
Sitat Hans Ekbrand <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > > > > rsync from cron. > > But what if a user logs out, and in again before the cron job is > run? > If you have load balancing rather than fail-over then you risk that such a user ends up on the node that still has not been synced with the content

Re: [Ltsp-discuss] Failover and load balancing question....

2002-09-25 Thread Hans Ekbrand
On Wed, Sep 25, 2002 at 12:50:02PM +0200, Ragnar Wisløff wrote: > Sitat Hans Ekbrand <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > > [snip] > > > > How do others on this list sync /home? > > > > rsync from cron. But what if a user logs out, and in again before the cron job is run? -- Hans Ekbrand msg08148/pgp0

Re: [Ltsp-discuss] Failover and load balancing question....

2002-09-25 Thread Ragnar Wisløff
Sitat Hans Ekbrand <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: [snip] > > How do others on this list sync /home? > rsync from cron. -- Mvh Ragnar Wisløff -- life is a reach. then you gybe. --- This sf.net email is sponsored by:ThinkGeek Welcome

Re: [Ltsp-discuss] Failover and load balancing question....

2002-09-25 Thread Hans Ekbrand
On Wed, Sep 25, 2002 at 03:19:35AM -0600, Tom Lisjac wrote: > > I'm new to the list and apologize if this question has been asked > before. My searches have come up empty so I thought I'd ask here. There has been some discussion on this topic, but IMHO there are several ways that seem good. > O

[Ltsp-discuss] libc6 for the clients

2002-09-25 Thread f . rosendahl
Hi ! I have a really good working LTSP-solution running at home, so my wife has a really quiet computer in our livingroom. Becaus my server has only 512MB Ram I use the possibility to start some programs localy on the client, i.e. Netscape 4.x, Star Office. Now I wanted to use Netscape 7 in the

[Ltsp-discuss] Failover and load balancing question....

2002-09-25 Thread Tom Lisjac
I'm new to the list and apologize if this question has been asked before. My searches have come up empty so I thought I'd ask here. Over the Summer, I've set up an LTSP system with 10 terminals at a local elementary school where LTSP was able to save a lot of perfectly good equipment from being

Re: [Ltsp-discuss] is complete migration from MS to linux possible in commericial enviorment??

2002-09-25 Thread Andreas Schlager
Am 25 Sep 2002, um 12:32 Uhr schrieb Prakash Advani: > [...] > > 2)GUI should be better or aleast like NT > > You can use KDE. I think, KDE isn't very good for LTS, 'cause of the immense resources it takes... I think, a better solution would be QVWM. It looks like Win9x/NT, is _fully_ customi