Re: [Ltsp-discuss] Redhat becomes Linux Microsoft

2003-11-14 Thread shogunx
Debian. Pretty darn stable. On Fri, 14 Nov 2003, Dennis Veatch wrote: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA1 > > On Friday 14 November 2003 08:12 pm, Julius Szelagiewicz wrote: > > On Fri, 14 Nov 2003, Dennis Veatch wrote: > > > On Friday 14 November 2003 09:07 pm, Brandon Mercer wr

Re: [Ltsp-discuss] Redhat becomes Linux Microsoft

2003-11-14 Thread Dennis Veatch
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Friday 14 November 2003 08:12 pm, Julius Szelagiewicz wrote: > On Fri, 14 Nov 2003, Dennis Veatch wrote: > > On Friday 14 November 2003 09:07 pm, Brandon Mercer wrote: > > > We stopped using redhat on our servers because it's one of the worst > > >

Re: [Ltsp-discuss] Redhat becomes Linux Microsoft

2003-11-14 Thread Julius Szelagiewicz
On Fri, 14 Nov 2003, Dennis Veatch wrote: > On Friday 14 November 2003 09:07 pm, Brandon Mercer wrote: > > > We stopped using redhat on our servers because it's one of the worst > > linux distros out there for stability. We're all intitled to our > > opinion and all grow attached to a favorite dis

Re: [Ltsp-discuss] Redhat becomes Linux Microsoft

2003-11-14 Thread Julius Szelagiewicz
On Fri, 14 Nov 2003 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > Aren't we all just a little tired of talking about Redhat and what > they are doing ? > > lets move on and try to be productive, eh ? Nah! Jim, who wants to be productive when we can happily engage in the act of throwing around a lot of natural fertili

Re: [Ltsp-discuss] Redhat becomes Linux Microsoft

2003-11-14 Thread Julius Szelagiewicz
On Fri, 14 Nov 2003, Brandon Mercer wrote: > We stopped using redhat on our servers because it's one of the worst > linux distros out there for stability. We're all intitled to our > opinion and all grow attached to a favorite distro and while I agree > redhat or mandrake is a great starter distro

[Ltsp-discuss] Mozilla exposes strange X server memory leak bug?

2003-11-14 Thread Alan Millar
Anyone come across anything like this and/or have any advice? I have ltsp_core-3.0.7-0, ltsp_kernel-3.0.5-0, ltsp_x_core-3.0.4-0, and ltsp_x336_svga-3.0.0-0 on RedHat 8.0 I have one laptop running as an LTSP terminal using the ltsp-wireless package. It is a Toshiba Satellite 110CT with a Chips&

Re: RE: [Ltsp-discuss] LTSP errors

2003-11-14 Thread Timothy Legge
> > Thanks for any idea's Try running tcpdump on the server. It will tell you whether the client is actually sending anything and whether the server is responding correctly. > -Original Message- > From: Timothy Legge [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Wednesday, November 12, 2003

Re: [Ltsp-discuss] client Hung after downloaded the kernel

2003-11-14 Thread Timothy Legge
> NIC: Realtek 8139 > Bootrom: V1.4 from www.DisklessWorkstation.com > Etherboot/32 version 4.5.8 (GPL) > Etherboot 4.5.8 is fairly old. Try downloading a newer version (5.2) from www.romomatic.com and use a floppy to test the setup. --- T

Re: [Ltsp-discuss] Redhat becomes Linux Microsoft

2003-11-14 Thread Dennis Veatch
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Friday 14 November 2003 05:41 pm, Cornelius Weiß wrote: > > Then what is well suited for production environments? > > to say it short: debian is perfect if you want to have a > most free and > most stable server! > > cornelius I guess I don't pay e

Re: [Ltsp-discuss] Redhat becomes Linux Microsoft

2003-11-14 Thread jam
Aren't we all just a little tired of talking about Redhat and what they are doing ? lets move on and try to be productive, eh ? Jim McQuillan [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Fri, 14 Nov 2003, Dennis Veatch wrote: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA1 > > On Friday 14 November 2003 09:07

Re: [Ltsp-discuss] Redhat becomes Linux Microsoft

2003-11-14 Thread Brook Humphrey
On Friday 14 November 2003 06:07 pm, Brandon Mercer wrote: > mandrake is a great starter distro... they are not well suited > for production environments. > Brandon There are allot of us using mandrkae for servers that could very easily prove you wrong. Take a look at netcraft and look for adva

[Ltsp-discuss] JBuilder too fat for LTSP?

2003-11-14 Thread Kai Wollweber
Hello, I just installed JBuilder 9 Personal on a Supermicro Server with Dual Xeon 2,2 GHz and 4 GB RAM with SuSE 9.0 (Linux 2.4.21-99-smp4G) and KDE 3.1 With only 10 Clients each running one instance of JBuilder the server is getting into trouble. Every instance of JBuilder starts multiple jav

Re: [Ltsp-discuss] Redhat becomes Linux Microsoft

2003-11-14 Thread Cornelius Weiß
> Then what is well suited for production environments? to say it short: debian is perfect if you want to have a most free and most stable server! cornelius --- This SF. Net email is sponsored by: GoToMyPC GoToMyPC is the fast, easy and sec

Re: [Ltsp-discuss] Redhat becomes Linux Microsoft

2003-11-14 Thread Dennis Veatch
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Friday 14 November 2003 09:07 pm, Brandon Mercer wrote: > We stopped using redhat on our servers because it's one of the worst > linux distros out there for stability. We're all intitled to our > opinion and all grow attached to a favorite distro

Re: [Ltsp-discuss] Choose good hardware for the LTSP host

2003-11-14 Thread hazzmat
For those concerned about Athlon cpus in use in server systems: many boards for Athlon and not just the more expensive ones, include a temperature probe in the zif socket that will shut the system down if the cpu begins to overheat. Usually called "COP" =cpu overheating protection. THis saved m

Re: [Ltsp-discuss] Redhat becomes Linux Microsoft

2003-11-14 Thread Brandon Mercer
Julius Szelagiewicz wrote: On Fri, 14 Nov 2003, Evan Hisey wrote: While Fedora is great for the hobbist, it will not cut it for many comercial even small comercial operations do to the lack of "professional" support. And given some of teh bigs that have shown up in Fedora that are not presen

Re: [Ltsp-discuss] Redhat becomes Linux Microsoft

2003-11-14 Thread Julius Szelagiewicz
On Fri, 14 Nov 2003, Evan Hisey wrote: > While Fedora is great for the hobbist, it will not cut it for many > comercial even small comercial operations do to the lack of > "professional" support. And given some of teh bigs that have shown up in > Fedora that are not present in RH9 this could po

Re: [Ltsp-discuss] Redhat becomes Linux Microsoft

2003-11-14 Thread Evan Hisey
Julius- While Fedora is great for the hobbist, it will not cut it for many comercial even small comercial operations do to the lack of "professional" support. And given some of teh bigs that have shown up in Fedora that are not present in RH9 this could possibly be a very big issue. Evan Jul

Re: [Ltsp-discuss] Redhat becomes Linux Microsoft

2003-11-14 Thread Julius Szelagiewicz
Kevin, I know that reading is hard and comprehension is even harder, but make the effort and just try to understand what RH is saying. What on Earth makes you think that you have to pay for RH software? Haven't you noticed anything about Fedora? Oh, and to answer your questions: wha

[Ltsp-discuss] Re: Ltsp-discuss] kmod: failed to exec /sbin/modprobe

2003-11-14 Thread Keith S. Austin
Ok, I got everything working, not sure what I did to fix the problem, but after a little more research on the net about the error (not ltsp specific) I think it was because my original MDK install was ext3 and LTSP couldn't read it. Does this sound correct? Anyway, I re-installed MDK 9.1 w/ex

[Ltsp-discuss] client Hung after downloaded the kernel

2003-11-14 Thread Kien Quan
Hi LTSP experts: I am new to LTSP. Last week I installed the LTSP 3 onto my server. The installation went fine. DHCPD checked TFPFD checked NFSchecked When I try to boot the client this is the output on the screen .. .. Searching for server (DHCP)... Me: xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx, server: xxx.

Re: [Ltsp-discuss] LTSP in home environment

2003-11-14 Thread Evan Hisey
Hazzmat- As to the security question, in a home setting that is almost overkill. I have seen indusrty setups less secured. For the hardware, I would reccomend upgrading the client ram to 64megs and good vid cards are a must. Evan hazzmat wrote: I have a couple of questions about good choices

RE: [Ltsp-discuss] LTSP errors

2003-11-14 Thread Mike O'Toole
Okay...here is the latest update. I have tried all the different releases from www.rom-o-matic to no avail. It either crashes after a while with the "UDP Checksum error", or it just hangs. I am pulling my hair out here, cause it looks like it should be working. I am including my dhcpd.conf,lts.c

Re: [Ltsp-discuss] Redhat becomes Linux Microsoft

2003-11-14 Thread John McCreesh
On Fri, 14 Nov 2003 10:35:53 -0800 Kevin Humphries <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > What impact will this major change have on LTSP? Will LTSP run on > other vender distributions of Linux just as well? Which vender would > you recommend I switch to as a replacement to Redhat? I've been a RedHat fol

Re: [Ltsp-discuss] LTSP in home environment

2003-11-14 Thread John McCreesh
On Fri, 14 Nov 2003 13:02:13 -0500 hazzmat <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Thanks for any guidance, particularly success stories on cheap, > well-supported, and available hardware! There's a description of our home LTSP network at http://uk.homelinux.org John

Re: [Ltsp-discuss] Redhat becomes Linux Microsoft

2003-11-14 Thread Evan Hisey
Kevin- LTSP will run on _any_ linux distrobution that has teh required servers and services installed. These are tftp,X(if you need it),telnet(if used),and dhcp. Some distros take more tweaking than others such as Slackware( I have scripts for 9.0 they should also work on 8) do to the BSD sty

Re: [Ltsp-discuss] Choose good hardware for the LTSP host

2003-11-14 Thread Danilo
> For my 13 LTSP clients using: > wmaker > web connection (mozilla or maybe epiphany if the one is too slow), > surfing and email > open office 1.1 > some educational software > > I've look for this hardware: > * 80GB 7200rpm ATA 133 > ** DDR 2Ghz PC3200 > ** P4 2.4 Ghz box FSB 800* > motherboard

Re: [Ltsp-discuss] Redhat becomes Linux Microsoft

2003-11-14 Thread grendel
Kevin Humphries wrote: What impact will this major change have on LTSP? Will LTSP run on other vender distributions of Linux just as well? Which vender would you recommend I switch to as a replacement to Redhat? We are small and presently only have two servers running LTSP with thin clients,

Re: [Ltsp-discuss] Choose good hardware for the LTSP host

2003-11-14 Thread grendel
Hi, there... From my experience: Processor - I'd rather use Intel... Athlon XP may even be faster (although I don't think it is), but Pentium IV don't have problems with overheating... I've lost a few Athlon XP processors just because the cooler was dirty. For 13 workstations, you won't be needi

Re: [Ltsp-discuss] Redhat becomes Linux Microsoft

2003-11-14 Thread Danilo
> What impact will this major change have on LTSP? Will LTSP run on other > vender distributions of Linux just as well? Which vender would you recommend > I switch to as a replacement to Redhat? > > We are small and presently only have two servers running LTSP with thin > clients, but we can'

[Ltsp-discuss] LTSP in home environment

2003-11-14 Thread hazzmat
I have a couple of questions about good choices for an LTSP setup. First, the site in question now has an old p133 acting as pppoe adsl router/firewal to the internet for windows systems and also it is a DHCP + DNS server. I would like to retask that p133 as a terminal in an LTSP network and re

[Ltsp-discuss] Redhat becomes Linux Microsoft

2003-11-14 Thread Kevin Humphries
What impact will this major change have on LTSP? Will LTSP run on other vender distributions of Linux just as well? Which vender would you recommend I switch to as a replacement to Redhat? We are small and presently only have two servers running LTSP with thin clients, but we can't afford the

[Ltsp-discuss] Any one Knows a LTSP Live CD based Distro?

2003-11-14 Thread Offray Vladimir Luna Cárdenas
Hi all, Good son comes home ;-). There is a lot time without writing to this list, so I want to come in touch asking: "Any one Knows a LTSP Live CD based Distro?". I heard that Knoppix has LTSP packages is that thrue? Thanks a lot, Offray --

Re: [Ltsp-discuss] Status of LTSP 4.0?

2003-11-14 Thread jam
On Fri, 14 Nov 2003, Charles Marcus wrote: > HAven't heard anything new for quite a while... just wondering what the > status is, and when it will be released... one of the major show-stoppers we've had with LTSP-4 is the problem of the latest XFree86 not properly supporting the MediaGX chipset

Re: [Ltsp-discuss] Choose good hardware for the LTSP host

2003-11-14 Thread Danilo
> > SCSI is good, but too expensive. If you can afford the difference, I would > > recommend Serial-ATA (pretty fast)... but ATA 7200RPM would be fine too. > > SerialATA are not up to mark in multi user environment. I just took out > a 80GB SATA because it would slow down. > Is this true or somewh

Re: [Ltsp-discuss] Status of LTSP 4.0?

2003-11-14 Thread Mohamed Kamil Mansor
Im still didn't success install this LTSP 4. On Friday 14 November 2003 03:10 pm, Charles Marcus wrote: > HAven't heard anything new for quite a while... just wondering what the > status is, and when it will be released... > > Charles -- Mohamed Kamil Mansor Please avoid sending me Word or Powe

Re: [Ltsp-discuss] Access to local hard disk

2003-11-14 Thread Atli Thorbjornsson
-Original Message- >> Hi, I upgraded the ltsp_kernel and added the module to my lts.conf as >> prescribed and on startup I get "Loading: ide-disk". >> >> I have a single cdrom connected to IDE and earlier on in startup I get: >> devfs: v1.12c (20020818) Richard Gooch ... >> devfs: boot_opti

Re: [Ltsp-discuss] SuSE 9.0

2003-11-14 Thread Nicolai Kuntze
Am Do 13.11.2003 17:33, Kai Wollweber <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> schrieb: > Am Donnerstag, 13. November 2003 15:59 schrieb Nicolai Kuntze: > > Hi, > > > > is this problem solved? I want to install ltsp this weekend on top of a > > SuSE 9.0. > > > > Yes. I just performed an installation on SuSE 9.0. > >

Re: [Ltsp-discuss] Choose good hardware for the LTSP host

2003-11-14 Thread Sudev Barar
On Thu, 2003-11-13 at 18:28, Danilo wrote: > > > SCSI is good, but too expensive. If you can afford the difference, I would > recommend Serial-ATA (pretty fast)... but ATA 7200RPM would be fine too. SerialATA are not up to mark in multi user environment. I just took out a 80GB SATA because it wou

[Ltsp-discuss] Status of LTSP 4.0?

2003-11-14 Thread Charles Marcus
HAven't heard anything new for quite a while... just wondering what the status is, and when it will be released... Charles --- This SF.Net email sponsored by: ApacheCon 2003, 16-19 November in Las Vegas. Learn firsthand the latest development