Re: [lubuntu-users] Booting into the dreaded black screen . . . pedal to the metal

2016-05-09 Thread Nio Wiklund
Hello Peter, When you wrote this mail to me, did you think of PC or PPC or both? I think too, that it should often work in text mode, but there are problems with systemd, that it works with either graphics mode or text mode. I found this link: http://ask.xmodulo.com/boot-into-command-line-ub

Re: [lubuntu-users] Booting into the dreaded black screen . . . pedal to the metal

2016-05-09 Thread Peter Golis
Hello Nio, Pres Escape key several times util GNU GRUB table will be shown. If that grub black and white table will be visible, you can install missing device driver in text mode. Yust confirm as video driver for old Intel graphic cards looks reanimated:   http://packages.ubuntu.com/search?suit

Re: [lubuntu-users] [lubuntu-devel] LXQt wiki area

2016-05-09 Thread Walter Lapchynski
Also, this *is* how you use Doodle: https://doodle.com/poll-maker On May 9, 2016 8:08 PM, "Simon Quigley" wrote: > Fine, but that's not how you use Doodle. :) > > -- > Simon Quigley > tsimo...@ubuntu.com > tsimonq2 on Freenode > > -- Lubuntu-users mailing list Lubuntu-users@lists.ubuntu.com Modi

Re: [lubuntu-users] [lubuntu-devel] LXQt wiki area

2016-05-09 Thread Phill. Whiteside
Fb areas and G+ posted it will be very interesting to see how many people actually give a shit and can be bothered to move a couple of fingers and make a vote. I can't recall if we have actually done this since the users voted for a new drupal theme for lubuntu.net which Mario refused to accep

Re: [lubuntu-users] [lubuntu-devel] Your thoughts

2016-05-09 Thread Simon Quigley
Remember to press the "Save" button after voting. -- Simon Quigley tsimo...@ubuntu.com tsimonq2 on Freenode -- Lubuntu-users mailing list Lubuntu-users@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/lubuntu-users

Re: [lubuntu-users] [lubuntu-devel] LXQt wiki area

2016-05-09 Thread Walter Lapchynski
It works. On May 9, 2016 8:08 PM, "Simon Quigley" wrote: > Fine, but that's not how you use Doodle. :) > > -- > Simon Quigley > tsimo...@ubuntu.com > tsimonq2 on Freenode > > -- Lubuntu-users mailing list Lubuntu-users@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com

Re: [lubuntu-users] [lubuntu-devel] LXQt wiki area

2016-05-09 Thread Walter Lapchynski
Doodle is a polling mechanism that anyone can participate in, so got can include whomever you want with nothing more than a link. I'll set it up for you if you're unfamiliar. On May 9, 2016 7:58 PM, "Phill. Whiteside" wrote: Hi Walter, does Doodle have just under 8,000 people and similar for the

Re: [lubuntu-users] [lubuntu-devel] LXQt wiki area

2016-05-09 Thread Simon Quigley
Fine, but that's not how you use Doodle. :) -- Simon Quigley tsimo...@ubuntu.com tsimonq2 on Freenode -- Lubuntu-users mailing list Lubuntu-users@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/lubuntu-users

Re: [lubuntu-users] [lubuntu-devel] LXQt wiki area

2016-05-09 Thread Phill. Whiteside
That is unfortunate as I'm pasting doodle to all our social media areas. Phill. On 10 May 2016 at 04:03, Simon Quigley wrote: > Doodle is not an online community. It's a polling spot. > > And either way, I think Walter misspoke. Doodle is for scheduling, not > polling. > > I've just given up an

Re: [lubuntu-users] [lubuntu-devel] LXQt wiki area

2016-05-09 Thread Phill. Whiteside
Hi Walter, I think you will find an email I am not totally unfamiliar with online voting systems :) Regards, Phill. On 10 May 2016 at 04:01, Walter Lapchynski wrote: > Doodle is a polling mechanism that anyone can participate in, so got can > include whomever you want with nothing more th

Re: [lubuntu-users] [lubuntu-devel] LXQt wiki area

2016-05-09 Thread Simon Quigley
Doodle is not an online community. It's a polling spot. And either way, I think Walter misspoke. Doodle is for scheduling, not polling. I've just given up and used Google Forms: http://goo.gl/forms/l5LjivGYUJ -- Simon Quigley tsimo...@ubuntu.com tsimonq2 on Freenode -- Lubuntu-users mailing l

[lubuntu-users] Your thoughts

2016-05-09 Thread Phill. Whiteside
Hi, we have a poll opened[1], please do vote as it is not too often we do ask you crazy boys and girls for your views. Many thanks, Phill. 1. http://doodle.com/poll/ga6h8kde3sy85qgc -- Lubuntu-users mailing list Lubuntu-users@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ub

Re: [lubuntu-users] [lubuntu-devel] LXQt wiki area

2016-05-09 Thread Phill. Whiteside
Hi Walter, does Doodle have just under 8,000 people and similar for the facebook page (15,000) But, i follow orders On 10 May 2016 at 03:33, Walter Lapchynski wrote: > Having it be exclusively on Facebook makes no sense. Make a Doodle poll or > something of the sort and link it to all the

Re: [lubuntu-users] [lubuntu-devel] LXQt wiki area

2016-05-09 Thread Simon Quigley
+1 On 05/09/16 21:33, Walter Lapchynski wrote: > Having it be exclusively on Facebook makes no sense. Make a Doodle poll > or something of the sort and link it to all the places. > > On May 9, 2016 7:31 PM, "Phill. Whiteside" > wrote: > > 7,769 members >

Re: [lubuntu-users] [lubuntu-devel] LXQt wiki area

2016-05-09 Thread Simon Quigley
Poll or MediaWiki? Because the latter would be a waste of time and effort because we haven't decided on anything yet. -- Simon Quigley tsimo...@ubuntu.com tsimonq2 on Freenode -- Lubuntu-users mailing list Lubuntu-users@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.

Re: [lubuntu-users] [lubuntu-devel] LXQt wiki area

2016-05-09 Thread Phill. Whiteside
I was not aware it was a vote let me set one up for everyone to be aware of. Phillw On 10 May 2016 at 03:22, Walter Lapchynski wrote: > So what I hear is, on the proposal of making a separate wiki server for > LXQt, the voting is as follows: > > In favor: 1 > Against: 2 > > How does everyon

Re: [lubuntu-users] [lubuntu-devel] LXQt wiki area

2016-05-09 Thread Walter Lapchynski
So what I hear is, on the proposal of making a separate wiki server for LXQt, the voting is as follows: In favor: 1 Against: 2 How does everyone else vote? On May 9, 2016 7:18 PM, "Phill. Whiteside" wrote: > Hi Walter, > > we have exactly ONE page for LXQt How is having two operating system

Re: [lubuntu-users] [lubuntu-devel] LXQt wiki area

2016-05-09 Thread Phill. Whiteside
Hi Walter, we have exactly ONE page for LXQt How is having two operating systems running side by side a better case of having two wiki areas? We are committed to Qt and it appears Ubuntu are committed to moving from Moinmoin to MediaWiki. Have a look at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lubuntu/Develope

Re: [lubuntu-users] [lubuntu-devel] LXQt wiki area

2016-05-09 Thread Walter Lapchynski
You seem to be missing the fact that we all agree that MediaWiki is better than Moin. I don't want two wikis to have to maintain. If we can have someone else do the work of securing and maintaining our wiki, it's less for us to deal with. It would be the same for our WordPress site of we let Canoni

Re: [lubuntu-users] [lubuntu-devel] LXQt wiki area

2016-05-09 Thread Phill. Whiteside
Why do you think lubuntu.me is not hosted with canonical, yet they did the trade mark registration? They are paying for the domain and the hosting comes free. I'll chat to Alf and Julien about what wiki structure is best, writing up a wiki structure in moin that is not compatible with MediaWiki

Re: [lubuntu-users] [lubuntu-devel] LXQt wiki area

2016-05-09 Thread Simon Quigley
Greetings, On 05/09/16 20:14, Walter Lapchynski wrote: > I'm up for what the boss, i.e. the team, agrees on, too. My vote is to > continue to use Moin. Ubuntu is done with it and are working on fixing > the scripts so they can move entirely over to MediaWiki. Everything > already on Moin will get

Re: [lubuntu-users] [lubuntu-devel] LXQt wiki area

2016-05-09 Thread Walter Lapchynski
I'm up for what the boss, i.e. the team, agrees on, too. My vote is to continue to use Moin. Ubuntu is done with it and are working on fixing the scripts so they can move entirely over to MediaWiki. Everything already on Moin will get magically converted. If we make our own thing, we have administr

Re: [lubuntu-users] [lubuntu-devel] LXQt wiki area

2016-05-09 Thread Phill. Whiteside
Well, it is vote time. I'm for not the fact that even fedora devs had a makeshift script to convert things from moin to mediawiki[1] Any one wanting to make a new project under moinmoin is making for more work in the future. But, I'm up for what the boss says. https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/MoinM

Re: [lubuntu-users] [lubuntu-devel] LXQt wiki area

2016-05-09 Thread Simon Quigley
IMHO we should write everything in MoinMoin then wait for the conversion so people can still view the wiki now and continue to hack on it but when the conversion runs, we have everything already available and set in place. -- Simon Quigley tsimo...@ubuntu.com tsimonq2 on Freenode -- Lubuntu-

Re: [lubuntu-users] [lubuntu-devel] LXQt wiki area

2016-05-09 Thread Phill. Whiteside
So, simon... have LXQt under moin and await transfer to MediaWiki, or make it MediaWiki from the outset? IMHO, we go for for MediaWiki from the 1st page. Phill. On 10 May 2016 at 01:41, Simon Quigley wrote: > Phill, > > On 05/09/16 19:06, Phill. Whiteside wrote: > > As part of this testing, I

Re: [lubuntu-users] [lubuntu-devel] LXQt wiki area

2016-05-09 Thread Simon Quigley
Phill, On 05/09/16 19:06, Phill. Whiteside wrote: > As part of this testing, I will be making a server available for > Mediawiki just the same as a WordPress one looks after our lubuntu site > [2] We have tried to make moin 'sexy'[3] but let us not be under any > illusion, moin wiki looks like a d

[lubuntu-users] LXQt wiki area

2016-05-09 Thread Phill. Whiteside
Hi guys and gals, As you may know, as matter of principal I've offered and been accepted as a release manager and general tidier up of wiki for ubuntu-GNOME as they restructure their own team structure. For those who still doubt my ability to test lubuntu along with Server, MATE and GNOME, they ar

Re: [lubuntu-users] Release Manager

2016-05-09 Thread Phill. Whiteside
Hi, Walter (wxl) has objected to my being re-instated as a release manager for lubuntu. This will not reduce my testing work. It does, however, now forbid my going through 3rd parties to give a go / no-go to the release team. Walter and Julien have been told that one of them will have to mark each

[lubuntu-users] Booting into the dreaded black screen . . . pedal to the metal

2016-05-09 Thread Fritz Hudnut
> > On 05/09/2016 10:37 AM, Nio Wiklund wrote: > > If you have people affected by black screen, or no X starting, or no > > lightdm starting, with Intel card, could you advise them to install > > this package, reboot, and see if it's working (and report back) ? > > > > This should affect only fresh

Re: [lubuntu-users] Fwd: [lubuntu-devel] Missing Intel graphic drivers on 16.04

2016-05-09 Thread Nio Wiklund
Hi Aere, So it is Intel graphics. Have you tried text mode? Tried to 'dumb down' the graphics as much as possible during boot? Can you get to a text screen somehow? And in text screen mode you can tweak it. - There are a few ideas to test . xserver-xorg-video-inte . UXA acceleration . variou

Re: [lubuntu-users] Fwd: [lubuntu-devel] Missing Intel graphic drivers on 16.04

2016-05-09 Thread Aere Greenway
Nio: According to the information below, Xubuntu 16.04 should work on that machine (933 megahertz, i815 graphics, 512 meg RAM). However, Xubuntu 16.04 also boots to a blank screen on that machine, so I doubt the change you requested to try will work. Lubuntu 15.04 and Xubuntu 15.04 are the

Re: [lubuntu-users] Fwd: [lubuntu-devel] Missing Intel graphic drivers on 16.04

2016-05-09 Thread Nio Wiklund
Den 2016-05-09 kl. 19:50, skrev Aere Greenway: On 05/09/2016 10:37 AM, Nio Wiklund wrote: If you have people affected by black screen, or no X starting, or no lightdm starting, with Intel card, could you advise them to install this package, reboot, and see if it's working (and report back) ? Th

Re: [lubuntu-users] Fwd: [lubuntu-devel] Missing Intel graphic drivers on 16.04

2016-05-09 Thread Aere Greenway
On 05/09/2016 10:37 AM, Nio Wiklund wrote: If you have people affected by black screen, or no X starting, or no lightdm starting, with Intel card, could you advise them to install this package, reboot, and see if it's working (and report back) ? This should affect only fresh install, upgrade sho

Re: [lubuntu-users] Does the computer support "suspend"?

2016-05-09 Thread Peter Golis
Hello Fritz, That G3 machine can be reanimated if you will use custom/minimal installation iso, and if you will follow installation in text mode. If CD drive cannot be used, then you can use debootstrap with some manual steps.   Regarding hibernation, try to find identificator for your swap and

Re: [lubuntu-users] Fwd: [lubuntu-devel] Missing Intel graphic drivers on 16.04

2016-05-09 Thread Nio Wiklund
Hi again, Feedback: I installed xserver-xorg-video-intel in my old IBM Thinkcentre 8187-73G (with a Pentium 4 CPU and) with Intel 82865G graphics. I needed nomodeset for the graphics to work with Lubuntu 16.04 LTS, but now it works without any tweaks. The /etc/X11/xorg.conf file with the t

Re: [lubuntu-users] Does the computer support "suspend"?

2016-05-09 Thread Fritz Hudnut
@Peter: OK, thanks for the hints, I'll check into it . . . I don't keep ALL of my emails though, but I appreciate that you don't want to repeat your self. As mentioned at the beginning of this thread, this latest question is for my '00 PM 3,1 Sawtooth, G4 . . . RAM is "maxed" out to a raging 2 GB

Re: [lubuntu-users] Does the computer support "suspend"?

2016-05-09 Thread Peter Golis
On Mon, 2016-05-09 at 08:38 -0700, Fritz Hudnut wrote: > > On Sun, May 8, 2016 at 11:47 PM, Peter Golis > wrote: > > If you want to use hibernation, then please check my older emails. > > I had described small how to enable it. Keyword for searching is > > "resume". > >   > > PS: Lubuntu had not

[lubuntu-users] Fwd: [lubuntu-devel] Missing Intel graphic drivers on 16.04

2016-05-09 Thread Nio Wiklund
Hi everybody, We have a workaround for old Intel graphics from our main developer. Please try it and give him feedback :-) Best regards Nio Vidarebefordrat meddelande Ämne: [lubuntu-devel] Missing Intel graphic drivers on 16.04 Datum: Mon, 9 May 2016 18:27:47 +0200 Från: Jul

[lubuntu-users] Release Manager

2016-05-09 Thread Phill. Whiteside
Hi, in the interests of openness and following on from prior criticisms I take this opportunity to announce that following the resignation of Ali as a release manager for ubuntu-GNOME I have been approved by their head of development to replace him. As this is a public role, I've asked that I have

Re: [lubuntu-users] Does the computer support "suspend"?

2016-05-09 Thread Fritz Hudnut
On Sun, May 8, 2016 at 11:47 PM, Peter Golis wrote: > If you want to use hibernation, then please check my older emails. I had > described small how to enable it. Keyword for searching is "resume". > > > > PS: Lubuntu had not forgott hibernation. Hibernation in Linux was disabled > due to faulty

[lubuntu-users] New Lubuntu tarball with UXA acceleration for old Intel graphics

2016-05-09 Thread Nio Wiklund
Hi Phill, Jan and all Lubuntu Users, I made a new tarball with a 32-bit Lubuntu system using UXA acceleration. It makes it easier to install Lubuntu in computers with some old graphics chips from Intel, where Lubuntu 16.04 LTS has problems. Lubuntu_16.04_oem-uxa.tar.xz It is described at the