RE: google mini? who needs it when Lucene is there

2005-02-03 Thread Hauck, William B.
ument limit: 50,000 documents is a lot for a small company website. Cheers, bill -Original Message- From: jian chen [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, January 27, 2005 11:06 PM To: Lucene Users List Subject: Re: google mini? who needs it when Lucene is there Overall, even if google

competition - Re: rackmount lucene/nutch - Re: google mini? who needs it when Lucene is there

2005-02-01 Thread David Spencer
I wasn't sure where in this thread to reply so I'm replying to myself :) What search appliances exist now? I only found 3: [1] Google [2] Thunderstone http://www.thunderstone.com/texis/site/pages/Appliance.html [3] IndexEngines (not out yet) h

RE: rackmount lucene/nutch - Re: google mini? who needs it when Lucene is there

2005-01-28 Thread Cocula Remi
igine- De : Erik Hatcher [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Envoyé : vendredi 28 janvier 2005 02:02 À : Lucene Users List Objet : Re: rackmount lucene/nutch - Re: google mini? who needs it when Lucene is there I've often said that there is a business to be had in packaging up Lucene (and now Nutch) i

Re: rackmount lucene/nutch - Re: google mini? who needs it when Lucene is there

2005-01-28 Thread mark harwood
>>Also need http://jcifs.samba.org/ so you can spider >>windows file shares. That project also has a very nice servlet filter that is used to provide automatic authentication of Windows clients using the NTLM protocol. ___

Re: google mini? who needs it when Lucene is there

2005-01-27 Thread David Spencer
Xiaohong Yang (Sharon) wrote: Hi, I agree that Google mini is quite expensive. It might be similar to the desktop version in quality. Anyone knows google's ratio of index to text? Is it true that Lucene's index is about 500 times the original text size (not including image size)? I don't hav

Re: rackmount lucene/nutch - Re: google mini? who needs it when Lucene is there

2005-01-27 Thread David Spencer
first step would be to start developing good, reliable, opensource extensions to Lucene which strive to solve some of these issues. end rant. - Original Message - From: "Otis Gospodnetic" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Lucene Users List" Sent: Friday, January 28, 2005 12:40

Re: google mini? who needs it when Lucene is there

2005-01-27 Thread jian chen
Overall, even if google mini gives a lot of cool features compared to a bare-born lucene project, what is good with the 50,000 documents limit. It is useless with that limit. That is just their way of trying to turn it into another cash cow. Jian On Thu, 27 Jan 2005 17:45:03 -0800 (PST), Otis Go

Re: rackmount lucene/nutch - Re: google mini? who needs it when Lucene is there

2005-01-27 Thread Jason Polites
p would be to start developing good, reliable, opensource extensions to Lucene which strive to solve some of these issues. end rant. - Original Message - From: "Otis Gospodnetic" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Lucene Users List" Sent: Friday, January 28, 2005 12:40 PM Subjec

Re: rackmount lucene/nutch - Re: google mini? who needs it when Lucene is there

2005-01-27 Thread Chris Lamprecht
As they say, nothing lasts forever ;) I like the idea. If a project like this gets going, I think I'd be interested in helping. The Google mini looks very well done (they have two demos on the web page). For $5000, it's probably a very good solution for many businesses. If the demos are accura

Re: google mini? who needs it when Lucene is there

2005-01-27 Thread Otis Gospodnetic
500 times the original data? Not true! :) Otis --- "Xiaohong Yang (Sharon)" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hi, > > I agree that Google mini is quite expensive. It might be similar to > the desktop version in quality. Anyone knows google's ratio of index > to text? Is it true that Lucene's i

Re: rackmount lucene/nutch - Re: google mini? who needs it when Lucene is there

2005-01-27 Thread Otis Gospodnetic
I discuss this with myself a lot inside my head... :) Seriously, I agree with Erik. I think this is a business opportunity. How many people are hating me now and going "shh"? Raise your hands! Otis --- David Spencer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > This reminds me, has anyone every discuss

Re: rackmount lucene/nutch - Re: google mini? who needs it when Lucene is there

2005-01-27 Thread Erik Hatcher
I've often said that there is a business to be had in packaging up Lucene (and now Nutch) into a cute little box with user friendly management software to search your intranet. SearchBlox is already there (except they don't include the box). I really hope that an application like SearchBlox/Zi

RE: google mini? who needs it when Lucene is there

2005-01-27 Thread Luke Francl
44 PM To: Lucene Users List Subject: google mini? who needs it when Lucene is there It seems to me that any small biz will be ripped off if they install this google mini thing, compared to using Lucene to implement a easy to use search software, which could search up to whatever number of document

Re: google mini? who needs it when Lucene is there

2005-01-27 Thread John Wang
I think Google mini also includes crawling and a server wrapper. So it is not entirely an 1-to-1 comparison. Of couse extending lucene to have those features are not at all difficult anyway. -John On Thu, 27 Jan 2005 16:04:54 -0800 (PST), Xiaohong Yang (Sharon) <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hi,

rackmount lucene/nutch - Re: google mini? who needs it when Lucene is there

2005-01-27 Thread David Spencer
This reminds me, has anyone every discussed something similar: - rackmount server ( or for coolness factor, that mini mac) - web i/f for config/control - of course the server would have the following s/w: -- web server -- lucene / nutch Part of the work here I think is having a decent web i/f to co

Re: google mini? who needs it when Lucene is there

2005-01-27 Thread Xiaohong Yang \(Sharon\)
Hi, I agree that Google mini is quite expensive. It might be similar to the desktop version in quality. Anyone knows google's ratio of index to text? Is it true that Lucene's index is about 500 times the original text size (not including image size)? I don't have one installed, so I canno

google mini? who needs it when Lucene is there

2005-01-27 Thread jian chen
Hi, I was searching using google and just found that there was a new feature called "google mini". Initially I thought it was another free service for small companies. Then I realized that it costs quite some money ($4,995) for the hardware and software. (I guess the proprietary software costs a w