Re: early country music

2004-03-28 Thread Roman Turovsky
> Lest we stray too far from our usual subject matter, I would say > that our word catgut for strings has nothing to do with cats. Gut > strings are made from the guts of sheep. Nowadays we think of the > word "cattle" as meaning lots of cows, but not many people realise > that it can have the mean

Re: lute limericks

2004-03-28 Thread Roman Turovsky
> That might seem a bit weak, but it has a certain nonsensical charm > all the same. Nowadays, as you say, limericks tend have something > special or witty in the last line. My all-time fave (I can't guarantee I remember it exactly): Titian mixed his rose-madder standing on top of a ladder. When th

Abso lute

2004-03-28 Thread Ronny Andersson
http://lagoon.freebsd.lublin.pl/~mieki/foty/flaszki/abso_lute.jpg --

Re: early country music

2004-03-28 Thread Thomas Schall
Don't be so exact! If some of the cats I try to impress telling them "you would make nice strings for my lute" would know ... Best wishes Thomas Am Son, 2004-03-28 um 21.26 schrieb Stewart McCoy: > Dear Garry, > > Etymology can be a minefield. > > For the origin of "renegade" Chambers Dictio

lute limericks

2004-03-28 Thread Stewart McCoy
Dear Jon, I agree that ideally a limerick should have some pun or surprise in the last line, yet surprisingly that is not the case with many of the limericks of Edward Lear. Lear was not the first to write limericks, but it was he who made them popular. He would often have the fifth line virtually

early country music

2004-03-28 Thread Stewart McCoy
Dear Garry, Etymology can be a minefield. For the origin of "renegade" Chambers Dictionary gives the Low Latin renegatus from Latin re- [intensive] and negare = to deny. It also refers to the Spanish word renegado, but there is no mention of indentured servants or gates. The other word under dis

Re: early country music

2004-03-28 Thread Howard Posner
This is what's called "folk etymology." Beware acronymic explanations of words that have been in the language for a long time (the OED records written uses of "shit" in the 1300's, and it was undoubtedly around before the Norman conquest) particularly when they're based on such obviously strained

Re: early country music

2004-03-28 Thread Roman Turovsky
>  The Brass Monkey > >   In the heyday of sailing ships, all war ships and many freighters  > carried iron cannons. Those cannons fired round iron cannon balls. It > was necessary to keep a good supply near the cannon, but they had to > find a way to prevent them from rolling about the deck. > > T

Re: early country music

2004-03-28 Thread Roman Turovsky
> isn't russia still the greatest country of the world? It has a reasonable chance to become one. For the first time in 400 years the Russians are a majority in their own state. RT

Re: early country music

2004-03-28 Thread bill
On Domenica, mar 28, 2004, at 16:45 Europe/Rome, Garry Bryan wrote: In the days when sailing ships were opening up world trade routes, when commodities such as spices were worth as much as gold, (18th Century??) some ships would carry fertilizer. These ships would periodically explode & be los

Re: early country music

2004-03-28 Thread Thomas Schall
isn't russia still the greatest country of the world? Thomas Am Son, 2004-03-28 um 16.14 schrieb Roman Turovsky: > > jon - i'll bow to your superior knowledge of american history and the > > sequence of it. i mentioned convicts because i seem to remember that > > georgia was populated by convic

RE: early country music

2004-03-28 Thread Garry Bryan
-Original Message- From: bill [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, March 28, 2004 8:35 AM To: Jon Murphy Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Roman Turovsky; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: early country music i mentioned convicts because i seem to remember that georgia was p

Re: early country music

2004-03-28 Thread Roman Turovsky
> jon - i'll bow to your superior knowledge of american history and the > sequence of it. i mentioned convicts because i seem to remember that > georgia was populated by convicts at one time (don't know why but > ogilvey comes to mind). Not only Georgia. At least 2 Defoe novels deal extensively wi

Re: early country music

2004-03-28 Thread bill
jon - i'll bow to your superior knowledge of american history and the sequence of it. i mentioned convicts because i seem to remember that georgia was populated by convicts at one time (don't know why but ogilvey comes to mind). i do know that the word renegade come from indentured servants t