In einer eMail vom 10.10.2006 03:26:33 Westeurop=E4ische Normalzeit schreibt
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Not much HIP there, but it sure was hip.
Eugene
I agree I have the box set with the King Henry's Madrigal.
Probably a Jethro Tull plays Dowland, without absolutely any attempt at
being
In einer eMail vom 10.10.2006 05:17:11 Westeurop=E4ische Normalzeit schreibt
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have just come home from the Karamazov/Sting gig here in NYC, and it was
EXCELLENT. Karamazov on 3 DOUBLESTRUNG archlutes and an 8course, and Sting
on a singlestrung archlute
Live does sound
I am also not a judge to stand over them, he can do what he pleases, I am
more interested in the reaction of players and listeners to this whole
thing as a
way of seeing where lute playing is at the moment. The CD disqualifies
itself
at least to my ears through musical and not authentic
excellent - that's you and bill wyman, right?
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Yesterday Sting was neither off tune nor out of tempo.
RT
- Original Message -
From: Francesco Tribioli [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: lute@cs.dartmouth.edu
Sent: Monday, October 09, 2006 5:54 PM
Subject: [LUTE] Re: The last word goes to Sting
...To sing out of tune or out of tempo is wrong,
In einer eMail vom 10.10.2006 11:25:27 Westeurop=E4ische Normalzeit schreibt
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No hip-police out there with a comment on this?
I hope I don't get thrown out of the force :)
Sounds good, pity Sting didn't give either of you a ring.
Sorry to dissapoint, but what my ears
- Original Message -
From: David Rastall
: Those who claim to know what is authentic, and who see themselves
as the sole arbiters of taste in early music, would do well to
consider what happened the last time their oh-so-precious historical
principles were applied for real, back in
Actually I already suggested to my Duo-Partner to start an action A tribute to
Sting for lutenists and to perform hits by Police and Sting on Lute(s).
I would offer to collect all contributions :)
Best wishes
Thomas
Yesterday Sting was neither off tune nor out of tempo.
RT
Pheewww! What a
In einer eMail vom 10.10.2006 13:40:02 Westeurop=E4ische Normalzeit schreibt
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Actually I already suggested to my Duo-Partner to start an action A
tribute to Sting for lutenists and to perform hits by Police and Sting on
Lute(s).
I would offer to collect all
Dear all,
while is surely interesting to see how much passion can be poured in such an
irrelevant (for us) marketing issue, do you see any chance to get back to
music discussions or is this list going to be talking about Sting ONLY
forever?
;-)
Luca
To get on or off this
Luca,
To paraphrase the late and malevolently great Darth Vader Luke, never
underestimate the dork side of the force.
I reckon many on the list are actually closet rockers and Sting let them
down.
Best,
Rob Dorsey
http://RobDorsey.com
-Original Message-
From: Luca Manassero
There is a basic keyboard-style realization of the thoroughbass in my edition,
pp. 30-34.
For a citation of the book, see:
http://ace.acadiau.ca/score/gjc/home.htm#CallonSchol OR
http://www.severinus.co.uk/edittext.htm#lanier
It may be in a academic library. [I get no royalty, so feel free to
There is a basic keyboard-style realization of the thoroughbass in my
edition, pp. 30-34.
For a citation of the book, see:
http://ace.acadiau.ca/score/gjc/home.htm#CallonSchol OR
http://www.severinus.co.uk/edittext.htm#lanier
It may be in a academic library.
And in mine. Comes
Yeah, I'm new to this list and all this Sting talk is causing me to
ignore almost every message entirely. Teach me about luteness!
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If you say, however, angeliques are compound
instruments, consisting of lute bodies, theorboed
necks, and harp tunings, I should NOT dissent, that is.
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Mathias
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How about these numbers:
http://www.googlefight.com/index.php?lang=en_GBword1=Lutenists+for+Stingword2=
Lutenists+against+Sting
-Original Message-
From: Sal Salvaggio [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, October 09, 2006 10:13 PM
To: lute@cs.dartmouth.edu
Subject: [LUTE] Re: Sting
Those who claim to know what is authentic, and who see themselves
as the sole arbiters of taste in early music, would do well to
consider what happened the last time their oh-so-precious historical
principles were applied for real
What happened was that the lute held a dominant position in
At 09:32 AM 10/10/2006, Kay Lay wrote:
Yeah, I'm new to this list and all this Sting talk is causing me to
ignore almost every message entirely. Teach me about luteness!
Feel free to ask something about luteness. I'd bet you'll get reply.
Eugene
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At 06:24 AM 10/10/2006, gary digman wrote:
I think the lute died for the same reason all the soft voiced insturments
died, i.e. the plucked keyboards (spinets, clavichords, harpsichords, etc),
the violas da gamba, and at the same time. When the concert hall was
invented in the early 18th century,
On Oct 10, 2006, at 9:32 AM, Kay Lay wrote:
Yeah, I'm new to this list and all this Sting talk is causing me to
ignore almost every message entirely. Teach me about luteness!
Oh, I think there's a bit to be learned about luteness from reading
those Sting discussions... ;-)
Here's a lesson
At 06:36 AM 10/10/2006, Francesco Tribioli wrote:
I've decided: I'll remove all my octaves, and double strings, and gut
strings. I'll get an archlute and will try the pop lutenist career. Perhaps
Mark and me could found a new group named The HIP Police and the
repertoire will be Sting music
All - We may all end up in agreement that Sting's Dowland is not of the
highest musical standard. But for heaven's sake, this morning Sting was
on the Today Show (one of America's most popular TV shows), pitching
John Dowland. Has any Renaissance composer ever enjoyed this kind of
exposure?
At 11:19 AM 10/10/2006, Caroline Usher wrote:
At 06:24 AM 10/10/2006, gary digman wrote:
I think the lute died for the same reason all the soft voiced insturments
died, i.e. the plucked keyboards (spinets, clavichords, harpsichords, etc),
the violas da gamba, and at the same time. When the
In a message dated 10/10/06 8:22:13 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
But the guitar survived, and it did not become a concert-hall instrument
until the 20th century.- There's a massive amount of chamber music from the
19th century.- Why couldn't the lute have continued equally with the guitar
Whoops. Forgot to press Reply-All. Now I remember why I never post to this
list.
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Subject: Re: [LUTE] Too soft to live, was The last word goes to Sting
From:Doctor Oakroot [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date:Tue, October 10,
Ummm, Wendy Carlos' Switched on Bach is an amazing recording, not lame,
period. I'll bet very few virtuoso Bach curators/specialists could pull it
off on a MOOG synthesizer. The MOOG is very primitive by today's standards,
and it's amazing that she could pull off anything close to that recording.
On Tuesday, Oct 10, 2006, at 09:05 America/Los_Angeles, Christopher
Schaub wrote:
Wendy Carlos' Switched on Bach is an amazing recording, not lame,
period. I'll bet very few virtuoso Bach curators/specialists could
pull it
off on a MOOG synthesizer. The MOOG is very primitive by today's
Sorry, I can't help flogging this dead horse.
I heard a feed of the Sting appearance on the Today show. He sang Come Again
and I have to say it sounded MUCH better live than on the recording. The lute
unfortunately sounded worse, but a TV studio was never the best place for an
instrument to
Dear Alfonso and all,
Alfonso Marin mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] schrieb:
[snip]
Initially, before listening to the CD, I was very curious about the
whole project and I really trusted that at least an interesting
musical result would come out of it. I am now very disappointed by
the
--- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I think in the end the big Lute Boom will not come
about through this CD,
because in the end the lute doesn't sound anything
like a lute on the CD.
Most non-musicians can not distinguish, or even care
to distinguish, the difference between the sound of a
modern
I agree that Walter/Wendy Carlos's original SO-B record was epoch-making --
literally! It kicked off a whole slew of synthesized recordings of classical
music, most notably Tomita's series and Carlos's own later recordings.
I have just completed 5 years of the same sort of arranging resulting in
On Tuesday, Oct 10, 2006, at 10:35 America/Los_Angeles, Michael Fink
wrote:
BTW, I am the composer/arranger of Monteverdiana and very honored
that the
LAGQ recorded it during their Delos years. I would like to know which
LP
contains other Monteverdi tracks. I checked the listing for SO-B
--- Mathias Rösel [EMAIL PROTECTED]
As for this initial question, we've now reached the
point where the
_tessiture_ are compared: e'-C (angelique) vs. d'-C
(lesser, or French,
theorbo).
No, as I mentioned in my last message, the range of
the open strings is _exactly_ the same. Not just
Dear All:
What I'm interested in is whether the next time one of us HIPsters does a
Dowland concert, any more people show up as a result of Sting stirring the
waters.
Cheers,
Jim
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Since I seem to have set at least one person searching, I should
correct my earlier post: the Carlos 2nd Brandenburg was on the By
Request album. The Well-Tempered Synthesizer had the 4th
Brandenburg. I know there's also a complete set of Carlos
Brandenburgs, but I don't know if he did them
A video is at:
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/12065856/
Look under Tuesday's Videos for a link Sting on his new album
Those who haven't had their minimum daily requirement of schlock will
appreciate the candles.
As Dan said, they do Come again. Sting plays his single-strung
whatever, Edin
Dear All,
An American musician friend has just sent this story to me from today's New
York Times, which recounts the terrible recent saga of a musician (trumpet)
trying to get his instrument on board a flight from Paris to New York in
this time of heightened airport security...
Lutenists
Dear Stuart,
Don't tempt me ...
There once was a singer called Sting,
Whose archlute was covered in bling.
He liked it that way,
It was easy to play,
'Cos each course had got only one string.
There once was a fellow called Sting.
In the pop music world, he was King.
He said with a smile,
As his
--- Stewart McCoy [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
I can't think of any words which rhyme with
Karamazov.
How 'bout get your rocks off?...knock your socks
off?
Chris
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Nobody here (apart from Sting) is claiming to have the ultimate way.
I think if I say a single strung archlute is the wrong instrument for
performing this music in a HIP way, then until someone can give me
evidence that such
an instrument existed then I am not being elitest or purist.
have just come home from the Karamazov/Sting gig here in NYC, and it was
EXCELLENT. Karamazov on 3 DOUBLESTRUNG archlutes and an 8course, and
Sting
on a singlestrung archlute
Live does sound much better and quite diferant to the CD. I also know that
he
now uses double strung instruments
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No hip-police out there with a comment on this?
I hope I don't get thrown out of the force :)
Sounds good, pity Sting didn't give either of you a ring.
Wrong league.
rubato at all the difficult parts and bad ensemble playing on Mr. Stings
CD. If
he uses a single string
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No hip-police out there with a comment on this?
I hope I don't get thrown out of the force :)
Sounds good, pity Sting didn't give either of you a ring.
Or a snuffbox.
RT
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In einer eMail vom 11.10.2006 04:48:49 Westeurop=E4ische Normalzeit schreibt
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Andrew Lawrence-King has been sticking his double-harp everywhere he could,
including Biber.
Go bark up that tree.
RT
I am not an expert on historical harps and maybe a double-harp is not
Hi,
forget about the A, B and other lists we now have the official view from the
DG magazine KlassikAkzente
Edin Karamasow, 41, spielt Laute. Besser als jeder andere und vornehmlich
mit Andreas Scholl.
http://www.klassikakzente.de/edin_karamazov_die_laute_aus_dem_labyrinth_114921.jsp
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