Dear Clive,
For what it may be worth, I just had a quick look in Sacconi's "Secrets of
Stradivarius", and this is what he says:-
"As a last task Stradivari filled the grooves with a mastic of ebony dust
made into a paste with a strong glue, which once dry could be smoothed
accurately giving a
"stephen arndt" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> schrieb:
> Stewart wrote:
>
> The caption is in Latin: "Forma Chelyos utravis Minuritonibus apta, sed
> Prima resonantior."
..
> "Forma . . . utravis" = either shape (of the two). (utervis, utravis,
> utrumvis = which of the two you will). I would say that in
Mathias wrote:
Nevertheless, your first choice meets the case. The copula is omitted. Abl
abs would require perf participle.
My response:
I double checked one of a number of Latin grammars on my shelf (one in
German, just for you!), and Gaar Schuster in "Lateinische Grammatik" writes:
"Ausser
Stephen,
it doesn't matter, of, course, but in the quoted sentence
Forma Chelyos utravis Minoritonibus apta, sed Prima resonantior
both the former and the latter clauses lack a copula. With the
predicative "resonantior" being in nominative case, however, and so its
related word "Prima", which be
Mathias,
I confess that I read Stewart's original message very quickly and without my
glasses. Thus, I misread "resonantior" as "resonatur," in which case "forma
. . . apta" would make sense as an ablative absolute, and focused primarily
on the omission of "utravis" in his translation. Now that
Thanks all for those suggestions. Great to hear from you all and as always
profitable in the saving in time and effort.
The suggestions appear to come down to;
-A ground vegetable pigment to stain the mastic, rather than dye or ink, to
prevent absorption into the softwood grain. Vegetable pig
What were the string pitches on the Octobass? What frequencies?
Regards,
Leonard Williams
On 3/16/07 6:21 AM, "MWWilson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Vuillaume built an Octobass in the early 1800's which was about 10 feet tall
> and was so huge it required two people to play, one to operate the
Clive,
Whichever you choose, I would recommend that you seal the inlay cavity with
dilute shellac, well dried, to preclude migration of the stains. Ebony black
will migrate quite badly when against a wood which provides enough wicking
power.
Best,
Rob Dorsey
http://RobDorsey.com
-Original Me
-ello in Italian usually means something cute - ino ( diminutive) means
something small
Birbante means something as rascal ( but it is usually used for children
when they steal jam - do they still do that?) -birbantello is used for a
child to joke with the fact that he actually stole jam but di
Hello!
was on my way to a hike when I got your email..
yes, oil of turpentine is well, just turpentine..
HOWEVER hardware or house painters turpentine is usually of TERRIBLE quality.
For fine art painting, and probably for luthiers as well, I always recommend
Windsor and Newton English Distill
> >>> The root word here is "viola". The diminutive
> >> ending is "ino", giving "violino", "little viola".
> >
> > Meaning small viol, of course.
> >
> >> "ello" is an aggrandizing ending, so "violoncello" is "big viola".
> >
> > This is a bit backward. "Ello" is a diminutive, and a "violoncello
>
> This is fun! :-)
> So violone is a big viola, as chitarrone is a big (ancient Greek) cithara,
Actually not. Chitarrone is a big CHITARRA ITALIANA.
RT
> and as capone is a big boss (when capo is just a normal boss).
> So violoncello is a little big viola! :)
>
> All the best,
>
> Arto
>
>
>
On Sat, 17 Mar 2007, Roman Turovsky wrote:
> > This is fun! :-)
> > So violone is a big viola, as chitarrone is a big (ancient Greek) cithara,
> Actually not. Chitarrone is a big CHITARRA ITALIANA.
Are you sure? References?
Arto
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> > So violone is a big viola, as chitarrone is a big (ancient Greek)
cithara,
> Actually not. Chitarrone is a big CHITARRA ITALIANA.
Any idea what that might be?
In Millioni 1631 it reads:
Chi volesse ancor'imparare à far le lettere per sonar' il Chitarrino, overo
Chitarra Italiana per via di
> On Sat, 17 Mar 2007, Roman Turovsky wrote:
>
>> > This is fun! :-)
>> > So violone is a big viola, as chitarrone is a big (ancient Greek)
>> > cithara,
>> Actually not. Chitarrone is a big CHITARRA ITALIANA.
>
> Are you sure? References?
>
> Arto
Yes. Sure enough. Renato Meucci.
http://users.uni
Chitarra Italiana is a LUTE SHAPED, as opposed to spanish *8*, from 3course
up. Related to Kuitra. There is a fair amount of iconography.
RT
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To: "Roman Turovsky" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "Arto Wikla"
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Sent
I think Meucci is "right on the money" as we say in American.
RT
- Original Message -
From: "Lex Eisenhardt" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Roman Turovsky" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "Arto Wikla"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>;
Sent: Saturday, March 17, 2007 5:41 PM
Subject: [LUTE] Re: [Viols] "cello" - Ita
>
>> Chitarra Italiana is a LUTE SHAPED, as opposed to spanish *8*, from
> 3course
>> up. Related to Kuitra. There is a fair amount of iconography.
>> RT
>>
>
> Like I said, I've read Meucci's article. The trouble is that iconography
> doesn't say 'this is a chitarra Italiana'.
Surely it does. A 3-
> > Like I said, I've read Meucci's article. The trouble is that iconography
> > doesn't say 'this is a chitarra Italiana'.
> Surely it does. A 3-4course lute-shaped axe that looks like KUITRA looks
> pretty obvious to me.
> RT
It seems no more than a guess that this was the instrument that Millio
>> > Like I said, I've read Meucci's article. The trouble is that
>> > iconography
>> > doesn't say 'this is a chitarra Italiana'.
>> Surely it does. A 3-4course lute-shaped axe that looks like KUITRA looks
>> pretty obvious to me.
>> RT
>
> It seems no more than a guess that this was the instrume
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