[LUTE] Re: No guts no glory

2007-10-24 Thread Ron Fletcher
Hi Stewart, Yes, there is an English saying, I have a gut feeling - Having a feeling deep down inside, instinct, intuition, sense of foreboding etc. Having the guts usually means - Having the boldness, bravery, nerve, colloquially - Having the bottle, balls etc. Hence, No guts, no glory For us

[LUTE] Re: theorbo strings

2007-10-24 Thread Anthony Hind
Nigel I agree with Ed, it takes a few months for Pistoy an Venice to come up/down to their final thickness. The more supple a string, the more it will finally stretch and end up slightly thinner. The surface texture will also change slightly over that period, so that such a string

[LUTE] Re: theorbo strings

2007-10-24 Thread David Tayler
Loaded or Crimped will give you more core to the sound, less tubby, but part of it is the way the instrument is built, part of it is that those low notes using historical strings sound less. Historical strings get softer as they go lower; modern strings get louder. Of course the string length

[LUTE] Re: No guts no glory

2007-10-24 Thread David Tayler
For me, nullum (in this case nulla) has more the sense of nothing or none, as in nullum quod tetigit non ornavit. no in this sense seems more like sine than nullum. As in Sine sole sileo and a periphrastic would add something But perhaps the sense of the thread is Nullum est iam dictum quod

[LUTE] Rép : [LUTE] theorbo strings

2007-10-24 Thread Anthony Hind
Nigel The problem is that Mimmo Peruffo has not yet commercialised his new loaded gut. Nor has he commercialised his open-wound strings. Perhaps you could try gimped strings, but if the tubbiness is tonal, you could try the Venice equivalent by Aquila, they are definitely more rich in the

[LUTE] Re: No guts no glory

2007-10-24 Thread Craig Allen
David wrote : For me, nullum (in this case nulla) has more the sense of nothing or none, as in nullum quod tetigit non ornavit. OK, I'm no Latin scholar but isn't nulla in some senses used for no, as in nullatenus, in no wise? no in this sense seems more like sine than nullum. As in Sine sole

[LUTE] Re: No guts no glory

2007-10-24 Thread Mathias Rösel
Sorry, this has become so off-topic, yet I cannot resist. For me, nullum (in this case nulla) has more the sense of nothing or none, Nothing in Latin is NIHIL. Nullus (-a, -um) is an adjective, compound of ne + ullus and usually followed by a related noun, which means: not one, noone. That is

[LUTE] Re: No guts no glory

2007-10-24 Thread Craig Allen
Mathias writes linguistically; Sorry, this has become so off-topic, yet I cannot resist. Don't apologize. It's a fun diversion to get, *ahem* strung out on. It seems to me that, vis a vis Latin, the translation is often going to be approximate rather than literal. That applies to any

[LUTE] Re: No guts no glory

2007-10-24 Thread chriswilke
Dear all, Wow, the scope of this list astounds me... When we're not spending days talking about how great gut strings are, we're spending days talking about how to talk about how great gut strings are in lingua mortua. Now let's see how many correct or incorrect ways we can all think up to say

[LUTE] Re: No guts no glory

2007-10-24 Thread Craig Allen
Chris wrote: Now let's see how many correct or incorrect ways we can all think up to say Blissfully out of touch with reality in ancient Greek. I look forward to a wonderfully fascinating discourse. Best I can do with an online dictionary and no knowledge of spoken Greek, ancient or modern.

[LUTE] Re: No guts no glory

2007-10-24 Thread Mathias Rösel
can all think up to say Blissfully out of touch with reality in ancient Greek. I look forward to a wonderfully fascinating discourse. Best I can do with an online dictionary and no knowledge of spoken Greek, ancient or modern. Eutuchps ek omilin aletheia Ancient: eudaimones tou ergou

[LUTE] Re: No guts no glory

2007-10-24 Thread Craig Allen
Mathias wrote: Ancient: eudaimones tou ergou apechomenoi chairomen I knew I could count on you. :) Craig _ Need personalized email and website? Look no further. It's easy with Doteasy $0 Web Hosting! Learn more at

[LUTE] Re: No guts no glory

2007-10-24 Thread Ron Fletcher
Yeah man...Dis course is really humming! I look forward to a wonderfully fascinating discourse. - Chris Wilkie __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com To get on or off this

[LUTE] Re: No guts no glory

2007-10-24 Thread Stephen Arndt
Dear Mathias, Do you think that to ergon is really the best translation for reality? Is Wirklichkeit used in German to translate it? In my mind, to ergon (das Werk) is a human artifact and therefore a product of art (he techne) and thus not a term for reality as a whole. My first inclination

[LUTE] Re: No guts no glory

2007-10-24 Thread David Tayler
I am deeply distressed to learn that Pliny, or Caius Plinius Secundus, author of Naturalis Historia, is guilty of faulty Latin. I shall write to his friend Catullus and mentor Seneca directly, though the post will be slow due to the enormous traffic through Verona and parts of the Appian Way.

[LUTE] Spinacino 1507-2007

2007-10-24 Thread John Griffiths
A two-day conference celebrating the 500th anniversary of the first printed lute tablature. 30 November-1 December, Tours This conference will also mark the reactivation of the Corpus des Luthistes series, and the launch of its new website featuring a full colour facsimile of the Spinacino