Eh!? Of course pitch is relevant to instrument size: as pointed out
earlier, it's precisely why the top one, or two, courses were obliged
to be lowered an octave. The point, as previously (and tediously)
pointed out, is that historically pitch was such that the highest
course(s)
--- On Tue, 17/2/09, Martyn Hodgson hodgsonmar...@yahoo.co.uk wrote:
From: Martyn Hodgson hodgsonmar...@yahoo.co.uk
Subject: Re: [LUTE] Re: Theorbo by Nic. Nic. B. van der Waals for
sale
To: David Rastall dlu...@verizon.net
Date: Tuesday, 17 February, 2009, 8:30 AM
Now also in Youtube:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rq2DvY51sAU
Arto
wi...@cs.helsinki.fi wrote:
[...]
You'll find the recordings in
YouTube: (seems to be slow tonight. I'll send the address later!)
Vimeo: http://www.vimeo.com/3243140
And also the music - as facsimile ms. - is
On Tue, Feb 17, 2009 at 11:40 AM, Arto Wikla wi...@cs.helsinki.fi wrote:
Now also in Youtube:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rq2DvY51sAU
Well done, Arto. Lovely toy you're playing there, btw. ;-)
I've become a bit of a YouTuber myself (www.youtube.com/luitluit and
Dear Collected Wisdom,
is someone willing to sell her/his copy of Lautenbuch der Virginia
Renata von Gehema (facsimile by Zentralantiquariat GDR 1984)? Please
contact me off-list.
--
Mathias
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On Mon, 16 Feb 2009, David Tayler wrote:
I only play a toy theorbo in public.
The Lorentz Fitzgerald contractions. Horrible.
dt
The theorbo player last night,
His fingers much faster than light;
He started his play,
In a relative way,
The fall fell the previous night.
(freely adapted from:
LOL
Nice one!
Lex van Sante
Op 17 feb 2009, om 14:36 heeft Peter Nightingale het volgende
geschreven:
On Mon, 16 Feb 2009, David Tayler wrote:
I only play a toy theorbo in public.
The Lorentz Fitzgerald contractions. Horrible.
dt
The theorbo player last night,
His fingers much faster
On Feb 17, 2009, at 3:37 AM, Martyn Hodgson wrote:
If we have any pretensions to 'Historically Informed Performance'
Do you think we're all being pretentious?
it is
clearly daft to ignore historic precedent and practice.
It's impossible to be 100% historical about anything. Besides,
Pretension: justifiable claim (OED).
--- On Tue, 17/2/09, David Rastall dlu...@verizon.net wrote:
From: David Rastall dlu...@verizon.net
Subject: Re: [LUTE] Re: Theorbo by Nic. Nic. B. van der Waals for
sale
To: hodgsonmar...@yahoo.co.uk
Cc: lutelist Net
On Tue, Feb 17, 2009 at 3:37 AM, Martyn Hodgson
hodgsonmar...@yahoo.co.uk wrote:
However, for mysterious reasons, some modern players string small
theorboes with low octaves on the second course even when wholly
unnecessary at the pitch in which they play.
If we have any pretensions to
Now also in Youtube: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rq2DvY51sAU
Very beautiful indeed Arto. Flows very smoothly, good tone and feel.
(Speaking as a daft old guy with an undersized sized stick myself.)
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On Feb 17, 2009, at 10:32 AM, William Brohinsky wrote:
Is it somehow illegal to play music for long theorbos on short
theorbos? If you wish to play the music of Kapsberger or Piccininni,
but cannot afford to buy (or cannot manage to borrow) a theorbo longer
than some criteria (which hasn't
When we remember we are all mad, the mysteries disappear and life stands
explained.
Mark Twain
-Original Message-
From: David Rastall [mailto:dlu...@verizon.net]
Sent: Tuesday, February 17, 2009 8:10 AM
To: William Brohinsky
Cc: hodgsonmar...@yahoo.co.uk; lutelist Net; howard posner
Preferring my lute-alikes at ca. 33 cm without diapason, I certainly am
daft.
Daftly,
Eugene
-Original Message-
From: William Brohinsky [mailto:tiorbin...@gmail.com]
Sent: Tuesday, February 17, 2009 10:33 AM
To: hodgsonmar...@yahoo.co.uk
Cc: lutelist Net; howard posner
Subject:
On Sun, Feb 15, 2009, Sean Smith lutesm...@mac.com said:
Dana, I had wondered about drift
drift is more an issue of who chooses to adjust when; and to what
challenge. I recall one easter piece, maybe by aligheri? The opening
staggers entrances from each of, mmm, maybe seven parts, at
On Feb 17, 2009, at 10:29 AM, Martyn Hodgson wrote:
Pretension: justifiable claim (OED).
I'll take that as a no to my question.
Martyn, I'm not entirely sure what your justification is for
advocating large theorbos only. I realize that this has been
discussed on the list before, but as I
those who dance are thought mad by those who don't hear the music Anon
On 2/17/09 11:29 AM, Guy Smith guy_m_sm...@comcast.net wrote:
When we remember we are all mad, the mysteries disappear and life stands
explained.
Mark Twain
-Original Message-
From: David Rastall
The difference between me and a mad man is that I am not mad. - Salvador Dali
those who dance are thought mad by those who don't hear the music Anon
When we remember we are all mad, the mysteries disappear and life stands
explained.
Mark Twain
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Could somebody supply me with details of
the ms.
LEVOCA, Evangelická cirkevná kniznica SK-Le.
please ?
thanks!
Bernd
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Pretension: state of the string before it is tuned up (BOB).
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To be fair to Martyn, he is merely using one of the fundamentals of
historical lute stringing, the highest string is tuned to the highest pitch
that is possible with the thinnest useable string.
So if you have one of those small theorboes then tune the highest string
(the 3rd course) to e, the
On Feb 17, 2009, at 3:19 PM, Mark Wheeler wrote:
To be fair to Martyn, he is merely using one of the fundamentals of
historical lute stringing, the highest string is tuned to the
highest pitch
that is possible with the thinnest useable string.
Fair enough. When they started making the big
On Feb 17, 2009, at 12:19 PM, Mark Wheeler wrote:
To be fair to Martyn, he is merely using one of the fundamentals of
historical lute stringing, the highest string is tuned to the
highest pitch
that is possible with the thinnest useable string.
* * *
This is what they did back
Dear David,
You wrote You mean I should simulate on my small theorbo the conditions
imposed upon the stringing by the big ones? I'm not so sure about that
one...
In regards to conditions between big and small theorbos, I don't see any
difference, if the diapasons are also small or better said
Dear Howard,
You are right to say that there was considerable variety in size, shape
and tuning of the theorbo. Bigger instruments tend to be better for
playing in consort or accompanying a singer, because the extra size
gives a fuller sound. Smaller theorboes are better for
On Feb 17, 2009, at 3:42 PM, Stewart McCoy wrote:
There are various 17^th-century sources which tell us things about
theorboes, but it is futile to dismiss them all out of hand, just
because they don't happen to have exactly the wording we want, or
because what they say doesn't
On Feb 17, 2009, at 5:43 PM, chriswi...@yahoo.com wrote:
How many of us really follow this fundamental of lute stringing
today? We tune our instruments to arbitrarily agreed upon pitches
like 415, 392, 440 etc because its practical. If we were to do the
truly historical thing, Jeff's G lute
Oh, this is classic, Golden Age lute list stuff here! Hah!!
DR
On Feb 17, 2009, at 10:42 PM, alexander wrote:
No one seems to object, and the talk continues as if the very
people that gave us all the amazing instruments we play, were
totally ignorant as far as the oh, so stupid
Hello guys,
Just an observation: the suggested average of the Breacking Index of a
modern gut string is 260 Hz/m. However, the full range of modern lute
strings ranging between 240- 300 Hz.mt.
This is true for the range of lute 1st string gauges. I mean 38 till
46 mm (more or
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