[BAROQUE-LUTE] baroque lute song?

2009-06-16 Thread theoj89294
Given the popularity of renaissance compositions for lute and voice, I am surprised that I have not seen a single baroque lute song (of course, i'm not a musicologist and may not be looking in the right places) This also begs the question - what changed so that the baroque lute was not

[BAROQUE-LUTE] Re: baroque lute song?

2009-06-16 Thread Mathias Rösel
Baroque lutes _were_ being used to accompany singers. Weiss wrote in a letter, IIRC, that he quite successfully used a swanneck onstage. On the other hand, baroque lieder, songs and arias were notated in staff notation with thorough bass, so that the accompaniment could be executed on any

[BAROQUE-LUTE] Re: baroque lute song?

2009-06-16 Thread Roman Turovsky
There are some, notably the few vocal items in the Augsburg Mss, and the dreaded Beyer collection. There is also - http://www.polyhymnion.org/lieder/german.html RT - Original Message - From: theoj89...@aol.com To: baroque-lute@cs.dartmouth.edu Sent: Tuesday, June 16, 2009 8:42 AM

[BAROQUE-LUTE] Re: Odp: baroque lute song?

2009-06-16 Thread Roman Turovsky
I checked my collection, but it's all pretty ominous...;-((( http://www.polyhymnion.org/lieder/german.html I have quite a few on the subject of evil mothers-in-law...;-)) RT Dear friends, do you know any songs for baroque lute, theorbo with soprano or countertenor or both, for the special

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2009-06-16 Thread Grzegorz Joachimiak
Some from them sounds suspiciously like bandoras songs which I had pleasure heard in Lviv. G Dnia 17-06-2009 o godz. 0:03 Roman Turovsky napisał(a): Look in http://www.torban.org/pisni/ ;-) RT - Original Message - From: Grzegorz Joachimiak gjoachim...@wp.pl To: Roman Turovsky

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2009-06-16 Thread Roman Turovsky
There are also 17th century kanty, both sacred and secular. I have a great a capella wedding song for 3 voices item from 1680, if you are interested. Bandurists tend to appropriate anything they can, including Holborne. RT - Original Message - From: Grzegorz Joachimiak

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2009-06-16 Thread Grzegorz Joachimiak
I heard one guy, who played and sang well. He learned in Kiev special school for bandurist and now he know few hard songs (in polish language called Duma) and teach some boys in Lviv. His songs was not sugary. GJ Dnia 17-06-2009 o godz. 0:23 Roman Turovsky napisał(a): Those are rarely a

[LUTE] Cantio Ruthenica LXXXVI Eroica

2009-06-16 Thread Roman Turovsky
http://www.torban.org/ruthenicae/images/243.mp3 http://www.torban.org/ruthenicae/audio/243H.mp3 Enjoy, RT To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html

[LUTE] Re: First lute advice

2009-06-16 Thread Ed Durbrow
On Jun 16, 2009, at 3:49 AM, Mayes, Joseph wrote: I know I am sticking my neck way out here, but I thought I'd throw in my 2 cents - let the flames begin! As I see it, in the early days of both lute and guitar, the technique was largely the same: thumb-under, pinky on the

[LUTE] Re: Hard shell lute cases for air travel

2009-06-16 Thread demery
On Mon, Jun 15, 2009, angevin...@att.net said: So what I wonder is this. Does anybody know of a company Kingham seems to have a good share of the market with a sterling reputation from what I have seen over several decades. Makes cases for many makers, including David van Edwards. See the

[BAROQUE-LUTE] Re: baroque lute song?

2009-06-16 Thread howard posner
On Jun 16, 2009, at 5:42 AM, theoj89...@aol.com wrote: Given the popularity of renaissance compositions for lute and voice, I am surprised that I have not seen a single baroque lute song (of course, i'm not a musicologist and may not be looking in the right places) You're not looking

[LUTE] Re: First lute advice

2009-06-16 Thread Mathias Rösel
But this is the last one, no? my former wife used to say 8) Mathias chriswi...@yahoo.com schrieb: Howard, I stick by my assertion, there's no such thing as a single lute. True, none of my instruments are joined in a civil union that is (at this time) legally recognized

[LUTE] Re: Hard shell lute cases for air travel

2009-06-16 Thread angevinews
Maybe I'm a belt and suspenders sort of person, due to my engineering background. But my lute(s) already HAVE Kingham cases. I'm looking for something way stronger and more sturdy. A year ago, when I last attempted to solve this problem, I even corresponded with them abit. They also make

[BAROQUE-LUTE] Re: baroque lute song?

2009-06-16 Thread David Rastall
On Jun 16, 2009, at 8:42 AM, theoj89...@aol.com wrote: Given the popularity of renaissance compositions for lute and voice, I am surprised that I have not seen a single baroque lute song (of course, i'm not a musicologist and may not be looking in the right places) There are plenty of

[LUTE] Re: Hard shell lute cases for air travel

2009-06-16 Thread Graham Freeman
All, I'm going through the same thing. Too many people are telling me that Kingham cases are no match for what the gorilla baggage-handlers can throw at them. I'm thinking of approaching guitar makers instead. My guitar is housed in a case made by a Canadian company called Calton,

[LUTE] Daniel Desjardins?

2009-06-16 Thread Graham Freeman
All, Does anyone know how to get hold of Daniel Desjardins, a luthier from Montreal? I once played a lute that had a fantastic moulded case he made himself. If anyone has his contact info, I'd be grateful. Best, Graham Freeman -- To get on or off this list see list

[LUTE] Re: Hard shell lute cases for air travel

2009-06-16 Thread patrik
you can try Jiri Bednar in the czech republic http://www.ika.zrns.cz/catalog.eng/default.htm I have one of those for my archlute it works very well when flying. Good luck Patrik www.patrikkarlsson.se Its getting to be summer workshop season. I'm not going anywhere this year, but thinking

[LUTE] Re: First lute advice

2009-06-16 Thread Mathias Rösel
Chris, when my former wife moved out, she took all the furniture. Said, I've got them lutes. Somehow, she was right. Yet, health insurance and lutes, you'll need both 8) Mathias . chriswi...@yahoo.com schrieb: Mathias, Yikes! I've heard that once or twice from my

[LUTE] Fuellana, fac simile on line

2009-06-16 Thread Sauvage Valéry
I don't know if you know this site but could interest some of you : Fuenllana, Miguel de: Libro de Mvsica para Vihuela. Enl ql se cotienen muchas y diuersas obras ... Sevilla, 1554. 366 pp. Available from Biblioteca de Andalucía.

[LUTE] Re: Fuellana, fac simile on line

2009-06-16 Thread demery
On Tue, Jun 16, 2009, Sauvage Valéry sauvag...@orange.fr said: I don't know if you know this site but could interest some of you : very interesting, unfortunatly its impossibly slooow to access from here in the US, maybe will be easier at some other time of day. -- Dana Emery To get

[LUTE] Re: Hard shell lute cases for air travel

2009-06-16 Thread demery
On Tue, Jun 16, 2009, Graham Freeman freeman.gra...@gmail.com said: All, I'm going through the same thing. Too many people are telling me that Kingham cases are no match for what the gorilla baggage-handlers can throw at them. not that kingham cases are shabby, far from it, just

[LUTE] Re: First lute advice

2009-06-16 Thread Roman Turovsky
It is much better to live without furniture. And the acoustics in the apartment would are a lot better that way. Thankfully both my wife and I hate furniture, and we had zen furnishings for years. RT - Original Message - From: Mathias Rösel mathias.roe...@t-online.de To:

[LUTE] Re: First lute advice

2009-06-16 Thread Christopher Stetson
Hi Mathias, Chris, and all, My instrument addiction is further-ranging, including Chinese instruments, antique guitars, etc., but equally maritally challenging. I've pointed out that it's a mid-life-crisis kind of thing, and on the whole less disruptive (and expensive) than a Jaguar and a trophy

[LUTE] lute songs or pieces for wedding occasion

2009-06-16 Thread Grzegorz Joachimiak
Dear friends, do you know any songs for lute with soprano or only lute pieces, wrotes for the wedding special occasion? Grzegorz Heineken Open'er Festival 2009. 2-5.07.2009 Gdynia. Poznaj wszystkie gwiazdy:

[LUTE] Re: lute songs or pieces for wedding occasion

2009-06-16 Thread Roman Turovsky
http://www.torban.org/ruthenicae/images/240.pdfIs a wedding song. There is a youtube video of another version of the same sung by Nadia Tarnawska with Brian Kay on theorbo. Nadia sang in in NYC on saturday, sadly without the theorbo.Ой гиля-гиля Гусоньки на Став Добрий вечір, Дівчино, бо я ще

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2009-06-16 Thread Roman Turovsky
There are serious people, to be sure. But they are few and far in-between. BTW, this is my friend Julian Kytasty explaining the Duma structure in English: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ws_wEA9pkHIfeature=channel_page RT - Original Message - From: Grzegorz Joachimiak

[LUTE] Re: Hard shell cases for air travel

2009-06-16 Thread Robert Clair
This comes up periodically, so search the archives. I don't have time for the full lecture but a summary: Choosing a case requires a bit of thinking about what you are trying to do. Simply getting a hard shell case doesn't solve everything. A case can provide some or all the following: *

[LUTE] Re: lute songs or pieces for wedding occasion

2009-06-16 Thread Roman Turovsky
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r8bVR7JJoLUfeature=channel_page RT - Original Message - From: Roman Turovsky r.turov...@verizon.net To: Grzegorz Joachimiak gjoachim...@wp.pl; lute List lute@cs.dartmouth.edu Sent: Tuesday, June 16, 2009 6:16 PM Subject: Re: [LUTE] lute songs or pieces

[LUTE] Re: Daza, fac simile on line

2009-06-16 Thread Sauvage Valéry
Daza : Daza, Estebán: Libro de musica en cifras para vihuela, intitulado el Parnasso. [Valladolid], 1576. [243] pp. Available from Nacional de Portugal. http://purl.pt/765 Subject: [LUTE] Fuellana, fac simile on line I don't know if you know this site but could interest some of you :