[BAROQUE-LUTE] Re: Galant definition

2010-10-22 Thread G. Crona
I believe the standard work to be: http://openlibrary.org/works/OL7827880W/German_galant_lute_music_in_the_18th_century haven't read it myself unfortunately... G. - Original Message - From: theoj89...@aol.com To: baroque-lute@cs.dartmouth.edu Sent: Friday, October 22, 2010 3:23 PM

[BAROQUE-LUTE] Re: music by Count Bergen

2010-10-22 Thread Dale Young
I have a feeling that there may be a general lack of knowledge about his oeuvre. Perhaps if you could strum a few bars for us, it may spark a recognition. Otherwise, It may be up to you to unearth these treasures. Bergen, (Pergen) Ferdinand Graf von, Three lute suites in French tablature are

[BAROQUE-LUTE] Re: music by Count Bergen

2010-10-22 Thread G. Crona
If you install Django demo, you can get and listen to them from here: http://jdf.luth.pagesperso-orange.fr/Musiques/Les_compositeurs/Autres_compositeurs/Comte_Bergen.htm G. - Original Message - From: Dale Young dyoung5...@wowway.com To: baroque Lutelist baroque-lute@cs.dartmouth.edu;

[BAROQUE-LUTE] Re: music by Count Bergen

2010-10-22 Thread Bernd Haegemann
I know that the question is about recordings, but as far as tablature is concerned Bergen, (Pergen) Ferdinand Graf von, Three lute suites in French tablature are preserved in the Vienna National Library, Ms. Suppl. Mus. 1078, ca 1740. you'll find that one here

[BAROQUE-LUTE] Re: Galant definition

2010-10-22 Thread G. Crona
Pls. correct me if I'm wrong, but doesn't Gallant also imply mood related to keys, i.e. direct influence on the listeners mood with the music, like f. ex. indian music claims to do? (The correct term eludes me, I really should read Farstads book! :) G. - Original Message - From:

[BAROQUE-LUTE] Odp: Re: music by Count Bergen

2010-10-22 Thread Grzegorz Joachimiak
Thanks for reply and many informations. So we don't have yet audio recordings with music by Bergen (Pergen). Did someone see Austrian lute manuscripts? Are there autograps of Bergen in Vienna, Ebenthal and Goettweig manuscripts or copies? G. Dnia 22-10-2010 o godz. 16:04 Bernd Haegemann

[BAROQUE-LUTE] Re: Galant definition

2010-10-22 Thread Dale Young
Here, Let me try. Galant is the term people who lived in the period from roughly 1720 on to 1790 ( Telemann through Mozart) used to describe certain traits, attitudes, and manners, associated with the cultured nobility, according to Robert O. Gjerdingen in his book, Music in the Galant

[BAROQUE-LUTE] Losy is great...

2010-10-22 Thread wikla
Hi b-gang, Losy was an intelligent composer - less is more seems to have been his case? A very simple Menuet in ms. Wittgenstein f.11r is - at least to me - a clear proof of his wits. 50 years later some wannabe-Beethoven could have made his 20-30 minutes symphony out of Losy's less than 2

[BAROQUE-LUTE] Re: Losy is great...

2010-10-22 Thread Dale Young
Arto! In support of your sublime offering of a Menuet by Losy, I offer one by Adam Falckenhagen to emphasise that less can be more. When I play this well, not quite this time, it is just the most sentimental, button-pushing piece of music, brings a tear to the eye.

[BAROQUE-LUTE] Re: Galant definition

2010-10-22 Thread Christopher Wilke
Are you speaking of Affekt? Mattheson goes into great detail about the moods associated with each key, but I don't believe that this is really more a part of the baroque aesthetic and not typical of the gallant style. There is the famous story about how Baron was made to look foolish for

[LUTE] Re: Odp: a little Polish folk song

2010-10-22 Thread Franz Mechsner
Dear Grzegorz, Thank you so much for that hint! Apart from Chopin, I am little aware of Polish music, and so are probably other people. On the website link you provided, also Maria Szymanowska is mentioned who must have been not only a touching and brilliant piano player but also a

[LUTE] Re: In My Life Copyright Issue What is Copyright Infringement?

2010-10-22 Thread Guitar Lute
For the record, the money is that ASCAP and the other agencies collects is also for airplay on the radio, and they both have different ways of the checking what is being played. The money is then distributed to the composers of the music, minus operating fees of course. If you are a composer

[LUTE] Re: Resources

2010-10-22 Thread mc41mc
Hi, I also noticed this: Il ballarino di M. Fabritio Caroso da Sermoneta, diuiso in due trattati m __ From: G. Crona kalei...@gmail.com To: Lutelist lute@cs.dartmouth.edu Sent: Fri, October 22, 2010

[LUTE] Re: Resources

2010-10-22 Thread G. Crona
Yes, but that book is also available on sites elsewhere, f. ex. http://www.pbm.com/~lindahl/caroso/facsimile/ and the copy here is 30 Mb. 862 (!) pages, many of them blank. G. - Original Message - From: mc41mc mc4...@yahoo.com To: G. Crona kalei...@gmail.com Cc:

[BAROQUE-LUTE] Galant definition

2010-10-22 Thread theoj89294
Could anyone help me understand the definition of 'Galant' music? Does it refer only to lute music, or to the period/style. What are its characteristics - if they can be summed up? Which composers would be considered most typical of Galant style? Thanks for helping a enthusiastic beginner

[LUTE] Re: a little Polish folk song

2010-10-22 Thread Bernd Haegemann
Just a bit of serendipity. I came across a website with a little folk song setting by Josef Koffler (1920s), who, it seems, went on to become a modernist composer. I suppose the melody is a real folk song, Is it perhaps Czerwone jabluszko without the refrain? best regards Bernd To

[BAROQUE-LUTE] Re: Galant definition

2010-10-22 Thread Christopher Wilke
Farstad's book is the best source for this music in reference to the lute. It includes exhaustive lists of composers, pieces and sources. More generally, there is Gjerdingen's book: http://www.amazon.com/Music-Galant-Style-Robert-Gjerdingen/dp/0195313712 I've read this book, but it is not

[LUTE] Re: In My Life Copyright Issue What is Copyright Infringement?

2010-10-22 Thread tom
For the record, the money is that ASCAP and the other agencies collects is also for airplay on the radio, and they both have different ways of the checking what is being played. The money is then distributed to the composers of the music, minus operating fees of course. If you are a

[LUTE] Re: Resources

2010-10-22 Thread Peter Martin
Thanks for this lead! I've just downloaded Laute und Lautenmusik. [1]http://ia311326.us.archive.org/2/items/lauteundlautenmu00krrich/laut eundlautenmu00krrich.pdf Quite a historic volume in its own right (1901). And looks like a good read, though it's going to take me a LONG

[LUTE] Re: Resources

2010-10-22 Thread R. Mattes
On Fri, 22 Oct 2010 15:30:18 +0100, Peter Martin wrote Thanks for this lead! I've just downloaded Laute und Lautenmusik. on page 17, taking an example from Neusidler, he suggests that an quarter note C followed by eighth notes C and D should be interpreted as a dotted quarter

[LUTE] Re: a little Polish folk song

2010-10-22 Thread Stuart Walsh
On 22/10/2010 14:59, Bernd Haegemann wrote: Just a bit of serendipity. I came across a website with a little folk song setting by Josef Koffler (1920s), who, it seems, went on to become a modernist composer. I suppose the melody is a real folk song, Is it perhaps Czerwone jabluszko

[LUTE] Re: In My Life Copyright Issue What is Copyright Infringement?

2010-10-22 Thread Peter Martin
De minimis non curat lex .. surely the case here. P On 21 October 2010 12:30, Guitar Lute [1]guitarandl...@earthlink.net wrote: Hi Tom, Just to help you out here since apparantly you have your idea of what copyright law is, here is a link and a quote from the

[LUTE] Resources

2010-10-22 Thread Stewart McCoy
Page 16 of the Caroso is a riot. Best wishes, Stewart McCoy. -Original Message- From: lute-...@cs.dartmouth.edu [mailto:lute-...@cs.dartmouth.edu] On Behalf Of G. Crona Sent: 22 October 2010 14:17 To: Lutelist Subject: [LUTE] Re: Resources Yes, but that book is also available on sites