Dear Rainer,
there are lute straps as the sand on the sea, very much ...
As you are searching for a provider in your country, have a look on the website
of lute builder Schossig.
Best
Joachim
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Betreff: [LUTE] Lautenband
Datum: 2020-09-20T09:42:13+0200
Von: "Rai
Hui! Prima! I even had forgotten about what Le Roy had to say on right-hand
fingers.
Thanks Rainer and ev'ryone else!
Joachim
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Betreff: [LUTE] Re: Ringfinger
Datum: 2020-08-31T13:41:07+0200
Von: "Rainer"
An: "Lute List"
From Judenkunig's
Utilis et compendiari
Dear Rainer, dear all,
there is nothing of that in the copies I have from Klima's introduction to his
"Themenverzeichnis".
Best
Joachim
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Betreff: [LUTE] Re: Red notes in Eysert
Datum: 2020-08-24T09:40:51+0200
Von: "Rainer"
An: "lute@cs.dartmouth.edu"
In Eysert
Oversized Oirish or Scottish Harp painted by someone who is accustomed to have
yer soundboxes made from planks, ;)
Slàinte
Joachim
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Betreff: [LUTE] Weird instrument depiction in painting
Datum: 2020-07-20T20:04:41+0200
Von: "Tristan von Neumann"
An: "lute@cs.dartm
Dear Lute Listers,
a few weeks ago I noticed the first sales activities concerning
instruments described as 19th century guitars. Yesterday a link to an
ad on Wayne Cripp's lute page appeared in the Ning Lute Group
announcing the sale of a "Gorgeous and unique" original
nineteen
Thank you, David, you are a real mine of information!
Joachim
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Betreff: [LUTE] Re: Vanishing lute tops - or not?
Datum: 2020-06-13T14:26:49+0200
Von: "David Van Edwards"
An: "lute List"
Dear Jörg,
I cover this towards the end of this essay on a related matter.
h
Hydrochloric acid applied in an appropriate quantity and manner might do the
job ... ;) We all fall victim to spellcheckers from time to time ...
Apart from joking: Do we really know something about the goings on concerning
varnish or sealing (wax?) being applied to lute soundboards of them olde
Dear Monica,
that should be Die Laute. Jahrbuch der Deutschen Lautengesellschaft 11 (2013).
The information that it is published in Stuttgart is wrong. The place is
Frankfurt/Main. ISSN 1437-3378.
All best
Joachim
Lektorat & Korrektorat
Dr. Joachim Lüdtke
Blumenstraße 20
D-90762 Fürth
Dear Martin, dear all
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Betreff: [LUTE] Re: 7c. Lute music
Datum: 2020-06-05T18:18:42+0200
Von: "Martin Shepherd"
An: "Lute List"
[snip]
Incidentally, this is also the tuning used in an early MS (Thibault?),
= I-Bu MS 596. HH. 24; I-PESo MS 1144
Just my pennywoth
Nice shredding on the Quinterne!
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Betreff: [LUTE] funny video
Datum: 2020-05-22T13:55:57+0200
Von: "Tristan von Neumann"
An: "lute@cs.dartmouth.edu"
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sFwyEs0ID6U
I just found this... great playing and a funny idea.
To get on or
Not to forget the picture of two guy playing in Castaldi's Capricci a due
stromenti … :)
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Betreff: [LUTE] Re: Lute strap
Datum: 2020-05-22T13:26:04+0200
Von: "Ralf Mattes"
An: "Tristan von Neumann"
Am Freitag, 22. Mai 2020 12:24 CEST, Tristan von Neumann
schri
And what I simply forgot in my first mail on this topic: Among the
newly built guitars shown and played during the guitar days at the
Bremen Hochschule there actually was at least one with a
Sandwich/Laminate/Double Top, plus there was one with a
soundboard/barring construction follo
Thank you John, David, and everyone else who replied and contributed so
far! My lute/guitar lexigraphy is quite a bit enriched now.
As to the lute: I think I prefer the traditional construction and
materials for the historic instrument.
All best
Joachim
-Origin
Dear David, dear list,
I was a bit puzzled at first because I know the term double top, but only
pointing to instruments like e.g. Marcard guitars with a second, 'interior'
soundboard. What you describe is what I think is usually called a sandwiched
soundboard. Is my terminology too limited or
Dear Leonard,
this is Olde Yurrup speaking: it's not the plague, but it can remind one of
what happened tempore pestis. Covid 19/Corona virus will not be the reason
behind the quietness on this list at the moment, but one has to prepare for
some difficult months for everyone who depends on pla
Wind is a constant of any weather here. You miss something when it doesn't blow.
So: Blow, Sabine, and crack thy cheeks!
Jo the Word Botcher
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Betreff: [LUTE] Off topic to German members
Datum: 2020-02-09T18:07:38+0100
Von: "Rainer"
An: "Lute net"
Stürmisch ist e
Lektorat & Korrektorat
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Mail: [1]jo.lued...@t-online.de
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Dear Lute listers,
does anybody on this list know what happened to the Website of Meyer's
Sources manuscrites en tablature? The links normally leading to the
index page fail (error 404), and Google-dee-doo only produces hits for
the print publications.
Best
Joe the Word
Not only among Jews, Roman! If every Oesterreicher, Frankfurter or
what-you-have would be Jewish, there would be no problem for any small Kehillah
anywhere here to find a Minjan for the Service …
Joachim
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Betreff: [LUTE] Re: Milan's name
Datum: 2020-01-07T11:18:18+0
In El Cortesano it's Don Luys Milan … I am not a home for the next few days,
but if anyone has the Facsimile of El Maestro published by the Sociedad de la
Vihuela a few years ago, he or she could look into the commentary and see if
there is any evidence mentioned for Milán, de Milán or similar.
The title page of the Libro de motes … has Luys Milan too
I have not seen El Cortesano for quite a while …
All best
Joachim
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Betreff: [LUTE] Re: Portuguese Lute Music anyone?
Datum: 2020-01-05T10:13:43+0100
Von: "Albert Reyerman"
An: "Tristan von Neumann" , "lute@
Jo the Word Botcher
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Betreff: [LUTE] Re: Vous Usurpe
Datum: 2019-12-20T19:37:37+0100
Von: "Mayes, Joseph"
An: "lute@cs.dartmouth.edu" , "Joachim Lüdtke"
.and here I thought that I was Jo the clueless luter.
Joseph Mayes
_
Is it possible that it is not "Vous usurpe", but a mistitled intabulation of
the Liuto asper part from Victor Wadenbaiß`s "Donnerstag aus Lärm" instead?
Just my pennyworth
Jo the clueless luter
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Betreff: [LUTE] Vous Usurpe
Datum: 2019-12-20T17:25:25+0100
Von: "Rain
Dear David, dear Arthur,
this is one I examined alongside other portrait etchings or engravings (among
them some ridiculous ones) meant to represent Melchior and Hans Newsidler and
Hans Gerle. Originals are in the art collections of the Town of Nuremberg. I
thought I would find them to be print
Dear Arthur,
a few years ago I collected the information concerning this winter passage over
the alps from the travel diary of Camerarius, put it together with another
guy's findings on Melchior Newsidler's life and had it published in the
quarterly of the German lute society. I tried to locate
It's also well possible that he met with highway men!
:)
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Betreff: [LUTE] Re: Melchior Newsidler's portrait, again
Datum: 2019-11-11T13:03:31+0100
Von: "David Van Edwards"
An: "Joachim Lüdtke"
But it would have to have been on
s,
David
At 11:32 +0100 11/11/19, Tristan von Neumann wrote:
>Please Joachim :)
>
>There is nothing to be learned if just those broad statements are uttered.
>
>What makes you think that it is not a contemporary portrait?
>
>
>
>
>On 11.11.19 11:23, Joachim Lüd
Kassel, Murhard'sche Bibliothek und Landesibibliothek, 4° Ms. Mus. 108.1, the
lute book of princess Elisabeth of Hassia, comes to mind. Facsimile edited by
Axel Halle. There is a Ph.D. on the manuscript by Claudia Knispel.
Best
Joachim
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Betreff: [LUTE] Re: M. H.
Well, the tags refer to Gerle and Dowland because they both stand for a certain
period, and both have written about setting frets – and ay, there's the rub,
because Dowland cited Gerle's much earlier instructions, including a
miscalculation.
It would be nice to have a lute from Gerle's workshop
Dear all,
quite interesting, where that leads to: Meinel (instead of Meinl) = Meinel &
Herold, makers of plucked instruments in the ex-GDR. Ammon Johannes Meinel
built lutes from the 1950s on. If the monogramm is AM, then it might be him,
but he will surely not be alife anymore (born in 1903).
D'accord: it works well with the thumb stretched out. This is not what
puzzles me, but the question does why he did not let the description of
playing diminutions follow directly after the description of the basic
thumb-out position and playing. The music of the Thesaurus Harmonicus
Well, Vallet states that if one finds a single dot beneath a (tablature)
letter, it is to be plucked with the first finger. Two small lines mean the
second finger, and if there is none of these, the thumb plays the course. There
is a lot of music in in Paradisus Musicus Testudinis which is with
Galilei's claims to the contrary, there are a few printers mistakes
> too and there is doubtlessly an element of improvisation in the way the
> introductory anacruses should be played anyway (as perhaps indicated, for
> example, by the occasional long note values).
> Best,
>
t
Dr. Joachim Lüdtke
Blumenstraße 20
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Betreff: [LUTE] Re: Il primo l
g. It is a bit like in
German lute manuscripts of the early to mid seventeenth century, where late
sixteenth-century music mixes with later baroque pieces.
Best
Joachim
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Betreff: [LUTE] Re: A little known manuscript
Datum: 2018-05-27T22:40:42+0200
Von: "Joac
Dear Rainer,
I didn't know this keyboard book – thank you for your mail and the link. What a
pity that they scanned an old microfilm and not the original. I seems a pretty
ms.!
Best wishes,
Joachim
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Betreff: [LUTE] A little known manuscript
Datum: 2018-05-25T17:0
Dear Jean-Marie,
I am not aware of any PhD on the Pacoloni trios and have never seen the studi
mentioned in the introduction to the facsimile "Intavolatura manoscritta per
Liuto del duomo di Castelfrance Veneto", Bologna 2012: P. van Engeland,
"Pacoloni. Pièces pour trois luths, 1564. Etude cri
S.: I have seen some Mozart in very black, but I do not recall which KV that
was ...
Lektorat & Korrektorat
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Blumenstraße 20
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Dear Rainer,
I had a look a the microfilm of the source (Leipzig II.6.15) yesterday. The
initial s (it's the round, not the long form) is a bit, well, one of its own,
but still it is an s. I read the word as "schein" = a dialect form of schoen.
Best
Joachim
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Betr
"Ralf Mattes"
An: "Joachim Lüdtke"
Am Donnerstag, 08. Februar 2018 10:29 CET, Joachim Lüdtke
schrieb:
> Dear Robert, dear Rainer,
>
> original sources can (sometimes) be found by looking into Norbert Böker-Heil
> et al. (eds.); "Das Tenorlied".
ka, nor crabs.
Best
Joachim
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Betreff: Re: [LUTE] Re: German song questions
Datum: 2018-02-08T11:20:07+0100
Von: "Ralf Mattes"
An: "Joachim Lüdtke"
Am Donnerstag, 08. Februar 2018 10:29 CET, Joachim Lüdtke
schrieb:
> Dear Robert, dear Rain
Dear Robert, dear Rainer,
original sources can (sometimes) be found by looking into Norbert Böker-Heil et
al. (eds.); "Das Tenorlied". 3 Vols Kassel etc. 1979 - 1986.
This is a source catalogue of songbooks both manuscript and printed from 1450
to 1580. Vol. 3 contains the indexes. "Vnser magt
Dear G
Naples, Biblioteca del Conservatorio S. Pitro a Majella MS 7664; see Victor
Coelhos Catalogue (including incipits).
Best
Joachim
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Betreff: [LUTE] Unknown manuscript
Datum: 2018-01-31T11:39:02+0100
Von: "G. C."
An: "Lutelist"
Dear All,
I recently s
from, and that all ideas of mine about fine play, octave
strings and sonorities are nonsense ...
Best
Joachim
Lektorat & Korrektorat
Dr. Joachim Lüdtke
Blumenstraße 20
D-90762 Fürth
Tel.: 0911 / 976 45 20
Mail: jo.lued...@t-online.de
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Dear Rainer,
De Rippe's intavolation of Gentian's "Dieu qui conduit" ("L'Eccho").
Best
Joachim
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Betreff: [LUTE] tone colour echo
Datum: 2018-01-30T11:45:30+0100
Von: "Rainer"
An: "Lute net"
Dear lute netters,
I may have posted this may years ago already - I don'
pie was opened
The birds began to sing;
Wasn't that a dainty dish,
To set before the king.
(a.s.o.)
Best
Joachim
Lektorat & Korrektorat
Dr. Joachim Lüdtke
Blumenstraße 20
D-90762 Fürth
Tel.: 0911 / 976 45 20
Mail: jo.lued...@t-online.de
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seldomly seen guitar lutes which show the same sort of damages.
I have seen photographs, too, of guitar lutes being carried around and played
in the outdoors, but generally these are largely outnumbered by guitars ...
Just my pennyworth
Joachim
Lektorat & Korrektorat
Dr. Joachim Lüdtke
I should be able to make sense of it ...
Best
Joachim
Lektorat & Korrektorat
Dr. Joachim Lüdtke
Blumenstraße 20
D-90762 Fürth
Tel. 0911 / 976 45 20
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Betreff: [LUTE] German keyboard tablature
Datum: 2017-05-26T14:10:17+0200
Von: "Rainer"
An: &qu
Dear Walter,
"Es ist auf Erd kein schwerer Leiden" and "Lass ab, es ist umsonst" are not
from the Hainhofer-Ms.
I could send you copies from my copies of the pages containing the other two
pieces.
There is no modern edition of the book(s) - only single pieces in scattered
places - nor is there
Dear Wayne,
geared tuners: no problem - but they would not have been build buy a luthier
but by a craftsman specialising in scientific (astronomic, e.g.) instruments
and/or automats for the collections of the rich. But the strings I think
you're right. A set of 0.13 Phosphor Bronce might h
Dear Matthias,
another system of classifying musical instruments is by material (used in
India, China a.s.o). I think, there's at least as much logic in this system as
in the western european.
I do not have difficulties in applying the Sachs system to any instrument as a
material thing but doi
Dear Ed,
I suspect there are Japanese people adhering to the system of classifying
according to material of construction as there are such who have adopted the
Sachs-system.
I even remember a Japanese co-student of mine once reading us a paper about the
adoption of the western harmonic system
Dear Mathias,
I agree with almost everything you write except that I would like to call
instruments first and foremost by their proper names (especially if it comes to
non western european instruments), that I would not like to call guitars lutes
[and therefore have to admit that I am not able
r position in the culture to which they belong) he
consequently calls any instrument with strings attached to a body and something
like a neck a "lute". Guitars are "Kastenhalslauten" and the Kemence is a
"Schalenhalslaute" ...
Best wishes,
Joachim
"Mathias R
; >18th century, but it developed from the cittern.
>> Certainly there is more
>> >research needed also concerning the development of
>> the Swedish lute.
>> >
>> >I searched Bacher's Lautenfibel for many years and
>> finally found it via
>> >ZVAB, the e
books. It may have
>some Internet when we describe the "renaissance" of lute playing from
>tablature.
>
>Best wishes
>
>Kenneth Sparr
>Stromstigen 25
>S-149 51 Nynashamn
>SWEDEN
>
>Telephone: +46-852015561
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>
>Telephone: +46-852015561
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>Från: Joachim Lüdtke [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>Skickat: den 9 oktober 2005 20:07
>Till: Kenneth Sparr; lute-list (Renaissance)
>Ämne: Re:
Dear Kenneth,
thank you for your mail - I didn't know that my article would be of interest to
anyone outside Germany although I know that the guitar lute and its relatives
were not confined to the German spoken countries.
I have not mentioned Scholander because I am unsure about the extent to w
Dear Daniel and all,
the copy of Mylius, Thesaurus Gratiarum which Pohlmann locates in Berlin is in
the Biblioteka Jagielloska, Krak=F3w. The shelf mark is: Mus.ant.pract. G 140
(2).
Joachim Ludtke
"Daniel F Heiman" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> schrieb:
>Thomas:
>
>Pohlmann indicates that a copy is in
Dear collected wisdom,
there is an italian lute manuscript in Montreal, which a few years ago had no
shelf number or signature. Something in the back of my head keeps saying that
it has got one in recent times but I can't buttonhole that voice and tell it
that it either has to stay quiet or inf
Dear Arne,
Denss: born in Antwerp, became citizen of Cologne in 1581, died there before 1608.
Came from a family - several members of which went to Cologne - of schoolmasters.
In a hurry,
Joachim
"Arne Keller" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> schrieb:
>
>Dear all,
>
>who has biographical info on Adrian Den
Dear Herbert,
the name/title of Josquin's mass composition is "Hercules dux Ferarriae", composed for
duke Ercole I. and based on a short melody constructed as to mirror the sound of the
latin title in the solmisation syllables of its notes (at least if I remember well -
maybe there's a Josquin
Dear all,
Years ago when I was playing in an early music ensemble I began to double on wind
instruments. On a visit to my parents I took a cornet with me and then went into the
fields to practice because I didn't want do disturb my parents. Attracted a large
crowd of cows which followed me as f
Dear Alain,
that's wonderful! You saved my evening after a particular hard day.
I'm going to try to tune my lute now ...
Cheers, Joachim
"Alain Veylit" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> schrieb:
>
>>On Martedì, giu 8, 2004, at 07:10 Europe/Rome, Jon Murphy wrote:
>>
>> > What is "re-entrant tuning".
>
>--I t
Dear Anne, Matthias, and all:
Well, I stand corrected! There are more things between heaven and earth ...=
Hello Anne and all,
"Aabrandt" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> schrieb:
>Hello
>Allthough i was told, that my query was "..outside the area of interest =
>of
>the subscribers to the Lute Forum",
.. sounds like one of my fellow germans ... after all: this is (if not a proper lute
in the sense we use the wor
Hell Ed and all,
apart from the number of diapasons, it is a fairly 'normal' german guitar lute built
most probably between 1910 and - say - 1940. Those with six strings seem to have been
the most common but so called "bass lutes" were popular among lute singers and players
of solo music, too.
Pierre Guédron (published 1613)? I'm not sure - maybe he used a preexisting tune
"Howard Posner" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> schrieb:
>Who wrote the original song?
>
>
>
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Dear Richard,
"Une jeune fillette" / "La Monica" a.s.o. [Bach: "Von Gott will ich nicht lassen"
(organ) = a spiritual song to the "Jeune fillette"-Melodie by the swissman Gletting
from the sixteenth century] is to be found in so many versions that it would be
impossible to name them all in an E
Dear Gordon,
the first and third items are to be found in a library here. I could scan the asked
for pages and send them per mail. Boetticher's handout from the first "la luth et sa
musique"-conference - the second item - will be hard to find I suspect.
Your sincerely,
Joachim Luedtke
"Dr.
Dear Edward, Sean, Stewart and all,
for some of the early polyphony in organum style barring is used, if it is notated in
non-modal/non-mensural notation (e.g. pieces in neumatic notation in the Codex
Calixtinus which - if the dating is still valid - comes from the middle of the twelfth
century
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