What is the longest lute piece in history?
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My music career is owed in large part to this list!
It will figure prominently in my memoir!
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> On Aug 22, 2020, at 3:09 PM, Wayne wrote:
>
> Hi -
>
> I have been running this lute mail list sin
For your perusal and delectation:
http://torban.org/lodomericae/audio/549.mp3
http://torban.org/lodomericae/images/549.pdf
Enjoy!
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http://polyhymnion.org/swv/ostinato/epitaph-passacaglia.mp3
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Passacaglia Super Thema Regium Vermiculum for your perusal and delectation!
Enjoy!
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Meant to write “a lot LESS “
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> On Jan 8, 2020, at 6:09 AM, r.turov...@gmail.com wrote:
>
> In Poland and further east toponymic surnames are a lot common among
> gentiles than among Jews.
>
> In Spain all individuals surn
In Poland and further east toponymic surnames are a lot common among gentiles
than among Jews.
In Spain all individuals surnamed Toledo, Segovia, Burgos, Rovira are
descendants of converso families.
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> On Jan 7, 2020, at 7:
There is an even bigger can of worms implied in the Savall debacle: that there
is a big “it very well might have been“ that don Lluys wasn’t even Spanish,
but rather Catalan.
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> On Jan 8, 2020, at 5:08 AM, r.turov...@gmail.
A cornerstone rule of musicology is that there is absolutely no certainty of
anything, and the only admissible form of presentation is “it very well may be
that etc”, regardless of how axiomatic it may look.)))
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> On Jan 8,
Toponymical surnames are prevalent among Jews: Toledo, Rovira, Palma and
Palmieri, Venezia etc etc.
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> On Jan 6, 2020, at 8:48 AM, Tristan von Neumann
> wrote:
>
>
>> On 06.01.20 05:50, howard posner wrote:
>> And wouldn
Someone should send a cease&desist order to Jordi Savall and all the other
performers who put De Mila’n on their CDs!
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> On Jan 6, 2020, at 11:08 AM, Mathias Rösel wrote:
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> Dear Antonio,
> please rest assured, no mo
How come is he also known as Luis de Milan and Lluis del Mila’?
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> On Jan 5, 2020, at 4:16 AM, Albert Reyerman
> wrote:
>
> Wrong, Tristan.
>
> The only source we have with his name given
> is EL MAESTRO.
> Here his name i
And soberly put.
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> On Jan 3, 2020, at 12:58 PM, Frank A. Gerbode, M.D. wrote:
>
> Good points, Ron.
>
> --Sarge
>
>> On 1/3/2020 06:28, Ron Andrico wrote:
>>Dear Antonio:
>>
>>I find this discussion intriguing.
It well may be a case of wishful thinking!))
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> On Jan 2, 2020, at 7:07 AM, Antonio Corona
> wrote:
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>
> All the music in El Maestro is by Milán
>
> Cheers
>
>
>
>
>
>
> On Thursday, 2 January 2020, 05:54:12 GMT-6
I use Rode, with a Tascam stereo mic. With excellent results.
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> On Dec 16, 2019, at 5:31 AM, Anthony Hind
> wrote:
>
> Dear Luthenists
>
> I am looking for a very simple app which will recognise the
> presenc
It could be a misspelling of Penoso, a big doozy, or Penone, a large body part
of a certain nature.
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> On Sep 2, 2019, at 4:56 AM, Robert Barto wrote:
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> Hi all,
>
> Can anyone help with the following from Borrono's 1
And Gorzanis is quite early.
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> On Jul 27, 2019, at 4:43 PM, tribioli wrote:
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> Dowland is quite late
>
> Messaggio originale
> Da: r.turov...@gmail.com
> Data: 27/07/19 17:32 (GMT+01:00)
> A: R
Im vortail mit dem Puschel und Muschel.
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> On Jul 27, 2019, at 12:02 PM, Rainer wrote:
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> Wer lesen kann, ist klar im Vorteil.
>
> Rainer
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F# on the 4th course shows up quite a lot in Dowland.
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> On Jul 27, 2019, at 7:09 AM, Rainer wrote:
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>> On 26.07.2019 21:53, tribioli wrote:
>>Everything you need about fret positions is written in David van Oojien
>>
Citterns play in only 2 keys, and hardly ever with other instruments.
so it is not a problem there.
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> On Jul 22, 2019, at 10:47 AM, David van Ooijen
> wrote:
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> Fixed fretted instrument had some sort of MT. Citerns with
It is equally hideous on harpsichord-
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On Jul 21, 2019, at 12:40 PM, Lex van Sante <[3]lvansa...@gmail.com>
wrote:
Anyone can hear that this organ is not in tune.
Whate
This is a piece by Tarquinio Merula in MT,
Anything but beautiful-
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On Jul 21, 2019, at 11:34 AM, David van Ooijen
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The beauty of
I suppose the payments were prorated, depending on the testudinal
idling!))
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On Jul 21, 2019, at 11:25 AM, tribioli <[2]tribi...@arcetri.astro.it>
wrote:
Just a theorbo and an archlute are enough
So - I took a quick look: l’Orfeo starts in C and goes through a, d, F, g, G,
Bb, c and even f.
A separate theorbo for each key change, I suppose!))
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> On Jul 21, 2019, at 8:49 AM, r.turov...@gmail.com wrote:
>
> Out of cur
Out of curiosity:
There should be estimates around of how many keys say a Monteverdi opera goes
through.
I am pretty sure Claudio didn’t worry about the fretted guys temperaments, did
he?
unless they had a different axe per movement.
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The diluted minor thirds dilute music in general.
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> On Jul 20, 2019, at 2:40 PM, tribioli wrote:
>
> But major thirds are absolutely better, so...
>
> FT
>
> Messaggio originale
> Da: Roman Turov
It is a lot more harrowing to hear the minor 3rds that are too wide, resulting
from various masochistic temperaments.
And the use of the latter in music that contains chromaticism is simply
insufferable.
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> On Jul 20, 2019,
I’m not surprised: many lutenists have had lunch at Curry-In-a-Hurry on
Lexington Ave in NYC!
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> On Jul 13, 2019, at 2:55 AM, Tristan von Neumann
> wrote:
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> [News from India - please ignore if it does not interest you]
>
Physics, I suppose!))
The pull of the strings deepens the scoop, rather then lifting the bridge.
The non-concave soundboard also carries a large risk of becoming convex, and
I’ve seen a few lutes with a nasty bulge between the bridge and the rose.
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The scoop keeps the action stable, and that’s its main function.
An axe without the scoop is a disaster to be avoided.
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> On Jun 29, 2019, at 1:09 AM, Ed Durbrow wrote:
>
> When I had my Ren lute made, I specified that I wan
Very simply: because Bream was a great musician.
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> On Jun 18, 2019, at 8:17 PM, Franz Mechsner wrote:
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> My question was and is: how does it come that Julian Bream sounds so
> good on the lute - though every body today
Dear friends,
The entire “De Temporum Fine Postludia II” cd is now available physically on
Amazon, electronically on all the services like iTunes, Apple Music etc., as
well as on YouTube, for your perusal and delectation! -
https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_nqd-ysxpM2s5UtdzrG8dhHBb1
The best field recording device is your own iPhone, with a $50 Tascam stereo
mic, and Rode recording app.
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> On May 17, 2019, at 10:02 PM, Daniel Heiman wrote:
>
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"Chi lo sa' - comprendera'!" -
https://youtu.be/Xqeq8JTsuIk - the 3rd track from Chris Wilke’s (and mine)
forthcoming CD.
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One of my lutes is neck-heavy, and it definitely has been detrimental to its
sound.
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> On Mar 23, 2019, at 5:48 PM, yuval.dvo...@posteo.de wrote:
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> My lute builder, Dieter Schossig, is actually a physicist, and he also told
Maciej Konczak plays one,
as heard here -
[1]https://youtu.be/H7KrfGtV1jg
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wrote:
It's a d minor tuned "German theorbo"
Most definitely not.
“Same diameter” would result in a huge increase in tension, with potential
damage to your lute.
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> On Jan 14, 2019, at 5:56 PM, George Arndt wrote:
>
> Look for mono-filament fishing line having the s
I looked at its facsimile at the Lincoln center library 25 years ago, but I
remember little.
The slow movement looked interesting.
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> On Jan 3, 2019, at 7:56 PM, Alain Veylit wrote:
>
> Anyone knows anything about a Sonata
Indeed!
I vaguely recall a discussion according to which the polyphant in question is
misdated, and should be from the early 1700s.
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> On Dec 27, 2018, at 3:35 PM, David Van Edwards wrote:
>
> It's just occurred to me that the
>
> For your perusal and enlightenment/delectation:
>
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IkgCITuz4pM
> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Walerian_%C5%81ukasi%C5%84ski
>
> http://www.polyhymnion.org/tombeau/tombeaux/s/tombeau-lukasinski.pdf
>
> Enjoy!
> Amities,
> RT
>
To get on
What about those of us who compose in tabulature?
I also know a few people who can sing off the tab.
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> On Dec 11, 2018, at 2:11 PM, Ron Andrico wrote:
>
> Modern tablatures appear to be a substitute
> for reading music in
Fascinating!
I now have a precedent!
Thank you!
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On Nov 29, 2018, at 3:11 AM, Martyn Hodgson
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Dear Roman,
Apropos your interesting translation: you may,
If you ever wondered how does lute music sound on a bassoon -
https://m.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLpnjC8Zpiw6WCBVJm5kBenG5MOgLJJeZX
Well, like this!
A whole suite for solo bassoon for your perusal and delectation!
Mange takk, Robert Roennes!
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Another hole in the Bard conspiracy theories:
https://www.theguardian.com/books/2018/sep/13/william-shakespeare-father-legal-skirmishes-john-shakespeare-national-archives-glyn-parry?CMP=Share_iOSApp_Other
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Wasn’t Conradi a professional publisher?
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> On Sep 18, 2018, at 4:37 PM, Mathias Rösel wrote:
>
> Johann Gottfried Conradi published the pieces in "his" lute book. But he
> wasn't the composer. Perhaps his name was a pseudon
You have truly long reaching memories!
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> On Aug 10, 2018, at 8:13 AM, Luca Manassero wrote:
>
> As far as I remember, a lady walking with a lute in Venezia (XVIth
> century) was considered a prostitute.
> My 2 cents,
> Luca
> On ven, 10 ago 2018 12:57:44 +0
Another Purcell item, priceless-
“On the night he was wedded quoth Inigo Jones etc,
..in I go Jones!”
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> On Aug 10, 2018, at 5:37 AM, Alain Veylit wrote:
>
> I seem to remember reading about Purcell being particularly targeted by this
> kind of mirthy-ful mis-attribution. M
Once, Twice, Thrice has unmistakable Purcell musicality. So...
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> On Aug 10, 2018, at 5:37 AM, Alain Veylit wrote:
>
> I seem to remember reading about Purcell being particularly targeted by this
> kind of mirthy-ful mis-attribution. My memory can well be wrong. Most of
> P
Lute in a brothel was a large Dutch sarcasm, lute being a symbol of domestic
harmony in the baroque visual symbolism.
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> On Aug 9, 2018, at 6:25 PM, Alain Veylit wrote:
>
> There is a piece in Dd.2.11 entitled: "Catin" (by Orlando di Lasso!).
> Yesterday I saw one entitled
Not always!
Take a look at TSatoh videos on YouTube!)))
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> On May 13, 2018, at 1:18 PM, Martin Shepherd wrote:
>
> Given the tone of the debate so far, I didn't want to get mixed up in it (I
> still don't), but I have to say that in any conceivable temperament the
> unisons
There is plenty of surviving evidence of every perversion, but that doesn’t
imply any aesthetic value thereof.
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> On May 13, 2018, at 7:00 AM, jslute wrote:
>
> Dear All,
>
>What should we make of the indisputable evidence of unequal
> temperament on fixed-fret citt
That was the cornerstone of Pat’s teaching.
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>
>
>> On 04/25/2018 10:05 PM, Leonard Williams wrote:
>> I have frequently read in various lute tutors an admonishment not
>> to grip the neck between thumb and fingers, but to allow the weight of
>> the arm to press the strings. I can n
Or the Six Dolphin Books. A scary thought
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> On Apr 12, 2018, at 11:07 PM, Alain Veylit wrote:
>
> And now, moving on to the garden metaphor ...
>
>
>
>> On 04/12/2018 08:45 AM, Jurgen Frenz wrote:
>> Dimitri,
>> I think you nailed it. Thanks a lot!
>>
>> Jurgen
>>
>
An Icelandic ballad with a couple of doubles for solo theorbo:
[1]http://polyhymnion.org/swv/theorbo/images/kvoelda-theorbo.pdf
for your perusal and delectation!
Enjoy!
Amities,
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For your perusal and practic
For your perusal and practical delectation: a Danish traditional ballad, with a
couple of doubles, in versions for archlute and theorbo:
http://polyhymnion.org/swv/theorbo/images/dagmar-theorbo.pdf
http://www.polyhymnion.org/swv/images/dagmar-archlute.pdf
Enjoy!
Amities,
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That has been my argument for the last 20 years.
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> On Mar 15, 2018, at 1:38 PM, Ron Andrico wrote:
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> The very idea of not composing for the lute is an anachronism.
>
> RA
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> On Mar 14, 2018, at 5:54 PM, Mayes, Joseph wrote:
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> Hello Mr. Isbin
>
> I can only answer your questions from my own perspective - naturally. I have
> tried to do so below:
>
> From: lute-...@cs.dartmouth.edu
Alessio Pardo.
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> On Mar 10, 2018, at 2:59 PM, Lynda Kraar
> wrote:
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> Friends,
> Can you recommend a lutenist in Krakow whom I might contact for a
> lesson while I'm in Krakow this summer?
> Thanks,
> Lynda Kraar
>
> --
>
>
> To get on or off this list see l
Well,
Jindrich Macek has recorded some Janacek’s Moravian folk songs with archlute
accompaniment, but I’m not sure if that answers the question!))
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> On Jan 22, 2018, at 10:21 AM, Daniel Shoskes wrote:
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> Dear collective wisdom: has anyone encountered baroque songs with
“Se me revento la prima,
la segunda y la tercera
con los rizos de mi amada
voy a encordar mi vihuela...”
An interesting piece of literary iconography, isn’t it?))
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> On Jan 22, 2018, at 6:46 AM, Antonio Corona wrote:
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> Dear G.
> It just might, but I'd rather stay wi
King Crimson’s Epitaph also works well!
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> On Dec 26, 2017, at 1:32 PM, Dan Winheld wrote:
>
> Excellent! There aren't nearly enough lute songs employing the Baroque lute.
> Perfect lute for Maestro Wait's vocal range & style.
>
>
>> On 12/26/2017 7:13 AM, Roman Turovsky
Probably not.
The worst music is still quite a lot better than the “equivalent” worst visual
art!
And literary arts are enviably quite immune to such tamperings.
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> On Dec 23, 2017, at 8:45 AM, Ron Andrico wrote:
>
> I think the comparison between representational art
This particular axe also seems to have unusually narrow joint between the
pegboxes, which may cause warping in the future.
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> On Oct 7, 2017, at 5:29 AM, anna kowalska wrote:
>
> Our lute has 146, we find it ideal.
>
> Best regards, Anna
> __
Pat’s own lute (now owned by Andy Maginley) was actually close to 160mm.
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> On Oct 7, 2017, at 5:29 AM, anna kowalska wrote:
>
> Our lute has 146, we find it ideal.
>
> Best regards, Anna
> __
>
>
>From the discussions we had with Pat back in the day - the narrow-bridged
>lutes that survive : survive to large degree due to the fact of not really
>being professionally played.
An ornate lute made for a small-handed princess naturally had a much better
chance of survival in a museum.
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Pat O’Brien was an unquestionable authority on musician anatomy, and according
to him 155mm bridges were fairly ideal.
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> On Oct 6, 2017, at 5:08 AM, Jean-Marie Poirier wrote:
>
> According to David Van Edwards's measurements of 26 lutes all over the world,
> bridges spa
Rode works at least as well as Fire, especially with the Tascam stereo mic.
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> On Sep 16, 2017, at 8:02 AM, Anthony Hind wrote:
>
> Dear Luthenists
>
> Having just lost the use of my FiRe recorder App when changing
> iPhones, I see this App is no longer supported
Agree wholeheartedly, Ron!
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> On Sep 7, 2017, at 8:48 PM, Ron Andrico wrote:
>
> Yes, Howard. I have noticed an increase in the profile of lute music
> generally and Dowland's music in particular since Sting released his
> recording. Of course, we run in different
There is a definite increase in lute awareness due to the Sting/Karamazov
effect.
Jim Jarmusch and his band Squrrl started collaborating with the lutenist Josef
van Wissem, and that resulted in the soundtrack of Jim's penultimate film.
And that resulted in a quite of bit of a solo career on th
I've put the booklet up on
[1]http://turovsky.org/CD ,bottom of the page.
Enjoy!
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that purchase t
My 15year-olds are into Tom Waits and KCrimson, so I have a couple of songs
done up for 13course.
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> On Sep 2, 2015, at 2:53 PM, John Mardinly wrote:
>
> OK, now for something completely different: I have a 13 year old
> daughter who is into Taylor Swift. Big time. I to
Get a folding theorbo.
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> On Mar 10, 2015, at 3:46 AM, Benjamin Narvey wrote:
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> H. Still no thoughts?
>
> Sent from my iPad
>
> On 07 Mar 2015, at 23:20, BENJAMIN NARVEY <[1]luthi...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> Dear collected wisdom,
> I'm rather wondering wh
It is true, Martyn. However the "Salieri syndrome" is real thing. Fortunately
the modern technology can temper it a great deal, with crowd funding etc.
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> On Feb 27, 2015, at 7:08 AM, Martyn Hodgson wrote:
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> Putting my own head above the parapet: this is an entertaining
It is now!-
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wrote:
Dear Lute friends: Roman Turovsky has written a beautiful Tombeau in
honor of Pat O'Brien. Here is my ini
I may try it in the few days.
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> On Nov 10, 2014, at 2:58 AM, Julian Templeman
> wrote:
>
> Does anyone know of a transcription, for Renaissance lute (or even
> classical guitar) of the wonderful Icelandic hymn "Heyr, himna
> smiADEGur"?
> I heard a recording of this
Huh?
All the players I respect tend to have wider bridges, and Pat's own
Jauck-Rutherford was even 157 mm. My 155 was copied from Barto's.
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On Oct 15, 2014, at 5:37 PM, Matthew Daillie wrote:
> Hear, hear!
>
>
>
>> On Oct 15, 2014, at 22:50, howard posner wrote:
>>
>> O
Naturally! )))
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> ..alleviated by a certain degree of self-deception ;-)
>
> I think a better term would SELF-PERFECTION.
> RT
> On 8/31/2014 3:42 PM, Ron Andrico wrote:
>> Thanks, Mathias and Christopher. All
So, Respighi was exposed to Chilesotti through Segovia's efforts?
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> As far as his influence on the lute: I heard Paul O'dette say that it was the
> "Six Lute Pieces from the Renaissance" based on Chilesotti (and made fa
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