On Jan 18, 2016, at 1:27 PM, William Brohinsky wrote:
> Is there a reference for these dates/numbers, especially the claim that A440
> was 'set' in 1916 for American Standard Pitch for pianos?
>
> In 30 years of piano tuning, I've seen many claims, but I am unaware of an
Dear Collective Wisdom,
I was wondering when pitch names began to be associated with the
strings on a lute. Nowadays the 'standard' renaissance lute is
considered to be in G tuning, with the top string at g.
Published books of lute songs seem, by and large to agree with this,
Hi,
This question may have an obvious answer but what the heck.
The highest string on my renaissance lute is a g. In terms oh Helmhotz notation
it is g' and In scientific it is G4.
When I go to different string makers sights I see this sometimes noted as g and
other times as g'. At least I
at this period?
Rob
www.rmguitar.info
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From: Martin Shepherd [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: 10 December 2007 08:57
To: Lute Net
Subject: [LUTE] Re: baroque lute pitch
Dear All,
I assume, at least as a starting point, that baroque lutes had a a
first
course tuned reasonably
Dear All,
I assume, at least as a starting point, that baroque lutes had a a first
course tuned reasonably close to breaking point just like renaissance
lutes (Mimmo has an argument that the limiting factor on a baroque lute
is actually the 5th course because it is too thin to be anything
about raising the first course to just below breaking
point actually come from France at this period?
Rob
www.rmguitar.info
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From: Martin Shepherd [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: 10 December 2007 08:57
To: Lute Net
Subject: [LUTE] Re: baroque lute pitch
Dear All,
I
What strikes me about the pitch we tune baroque lutes to is that it
seems to depend on 2 or 3 cms of string length (67 to 69cm = 415 / 71 to
74cm = 392).
On the other hand, if you look at theorbos most are tuned to A 440 or
415 whatever the size. I have played theorbos measuring 74 cm up to 99
If you take g' at a'=440 as a reasonable pitch for a 60cm string
length - and I find a good gut string is fine at that pitch - then
the equivalent for f' is about 67cm and for e' about 71cm. So I
have no problem tuning a baroque lute to f' at a'=415, as long as
the string length is less than
On Dec 8, 2007, at 1:25 PM, Edward Martin wrote:
I certainly can use a gut treble,
but I must lower the pitch of the treble.
Hi Ed,
I'm not entirely sure what you mean here. On a Baroque lute in 415:
do you mean simply lessening the string tension by loosening the
string to lower the
At 12:17 PM 12/9/2007 -0500, David Rastall wrote:
On Dec 8, 2007, at 1:25 PM, Edward Martin wrote:
I certainly can use a gut treble,
but I must lower the pitch of the treble.
Hi Ed,
I'm not entirely sure what you mean here. On a Baroque lute in 415: do
you mean simply lessening the string
Nigel Solomon [EMAIL PROTECTED] schrieb:
What pitch do people tune their baroque lutes to? Baroque lutes tend to
be anywhere between 68-75 cm, which is a wide range. Does everyone use
a' 415 or higher or lower?
Depends on purpose.
I use the swanneck for continuo, also, so I have it at a' =
72 @ 440/444.
RT
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From: Nigel Solomon [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: lute@cs.dartmouth.edu
Sent: Saturday, December 08, 2007 8:55 AM
Subject: [LUTE] baroque lute pitch
What pitch do people tune their baroque lutes to? Baroque lutes tend to
be anywhere between 68-75 cm
I have an 11 course 67.5 cm mensur, tuned at 415. I also have a 70.5 cm
mensur lute, tuned at around 405-410 (I would like to tune at 415, but it
is too long to accommodate a treble).
I have heard a few baroque lutes down in a = 392, or even lower. I have a
few recordings at a very low
Hi Nigel
I'm usually lower on my 13 course hoffman rider copy.
SS
--- Nigel Solomon [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
What pitch do people tune their baroque lutes to?
Baroque lutes tend to
be anywhere between 68-75 cm, which is a wide
range. Does everyone use
a' 415 or higher or lower?
Nigel
On Dec 8, 2007, at 9:37 AM, Edward Martin wrote:
I have an 11 course 67.5 cm mensur, tuned at 415. I also have a
70.5 cm
mensur lute, tuned at around 405-410 (I would like to tune at 415,
but it
is too long to accommodate a treble).
Hi Ed,
I'm surprised to hear you say that 70.5 cm is
Hello, Dave!
Thanks for your note. Some people are surprised to hear this, that 70 cm
is too long for 415, f (treble). In our times, we are so used to using
synthetic strings for a baroque lute, so when we go to gut, we encounter
frustration over trebles that break quickly, and will not
- From: Nigel Solomon [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: lute@cs.dartmouth.edu
Sent: Saturday, December 08, 2007 8:55 AM
Subject: [LUTE] baroque lute pitch
What pitch do people tune their baroque lutes to? Baroque lutes
tend to be anywhere between 68-75 cm, which is a wide range. Does
everyone use a' 415
I have a 3/4 classical guitar that I would like to restring in nylon so that
I can tune it to a lute pitch. The scale is 23 1/4. It would be my hope
that I could use the guitar to travel.
Volume is not a real concern. I would like to approach if possible the
tension of the lute rather than
At 06:01 PM 12/13/2006, LGS-Europe wrote:
I can tune it to a lute pitch. The scale is 23 1/4. It would be my hope
What's that in cm? If it's somewhere close to guitar third fret you can use
a normal set of guitar strings.
Around 59 cm, which doesn't seem out of the question for terz tuning
I have a 63cm VL lute, it is over length for a G chanterelle. (The kit maker
has shrunk his lute by a bit since I communicated with him).
Look at Andrea Damiani's book, as translated from the Italian by our list
member Doc Rossi. Without going into details of string characteristics
Damiani lists
Bryson [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Fecha: Domingo, Julio 9, 2006 0:55 am
Asunto: [LUTE] recommended lute pitch
Hi everyone - I'm a long-time on-again-off-again amateur lute
player,
but I have something of a newbie question: I have an old Aria 63
cm
lute that I used to play at a'=440. Over the years
Steve,
You should be able to tease a G (A/440) w/ a nylon top string (mine
always did tho I forget the gauge) or a .40mm nylgut. If you manage a
gut that makes it it won't last long. W/ any of these the chanterelle
will be generally a high squeaky tone than a lower tessura. So, yes,
you can
Hi everyone - I'm a long-time on-again-off-again amateur lute player,
but I have something of a newbie question: I have an old Aria 63 cm
lute that I used to play at a'=440. Over the years the pegs have
shrunk and the pegboard has developed cracks so it will no longer
hold a'=440. I now
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