[LUTE] Pitch

2016-01-18 Thread howard posner
On Jan 18, 2016, at 1:27 PM, William Brohinsky wrote: > Is there a reference for these dates/numbers, especially the claim that A440 > was 'set' in 1916 for American Standard Pitch for pianos? > > In 30 years of piano tuning, I've seen many claims, but I am unaware of an

[LUTE] Pitch names and lute tunings.

2012-04-14 Thread William Samson
Dear Collective Wisdom, I was wondering when pitch names began to be associated with the strings on a lute. Nowadays the 'standard' renaissance lute is considered to be in G tuning, with the top string at g. Published books of lute songs seem, by and large to agree with this,

[LUTE] Pitch names

2012-02-05 Thread David Smith
Hi, This question may have an obvious answer but what the heck. The highest string on my renaissance lute is a g. In terms oh Helmhotz notation it is g' and In scientific it is G4. When I go to different string makers sights I see this sometimes noted as g and other times as g'. At least I

[LUTE] Re: baroque lute pitch

2007-12-11 Thread Anthony Hind
at this period? Rob www.rmguitar.info -Original Message- From: Martin Shepherd [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 10 December 2007 08:57 To: Lute Net Subject: [LUTE] Re: baroque lute pitch Dear All, I assume, at least as a starting point, that baroque lutes had a a first course tuned reasonably

[LUTE] Re: baroque lute pitch

2007-12-10 Thread Martin Shepherd
Dear All, I assume, at least as a starting point, that baroque lutes had a a first course tuned reasonably close to breaking point just like renaissance lutes (Mimmo has an argument that the limiting factor on a baroque lute is actually the 5th course because it is too thin to be anything

[LUTE] Re: baroque lute pitch

2007-12-10 Thread Rob
about raising the first course to just below breaking point actually come from France at this period? Rob www.rmguitar.info -Original Message- From: Martin Shepherd [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 10 December 2007 08:57 To: Lute Net Subject: [LUTE] Re: baroque lute pitch Dear All, I

[LUTE] Baroque lute pitch

2007-12-10 Thread Nigel Solomon
What strikes me about the pitch we tune baroque lutes to is that it seems to depend on 2 or 3 cms of string length (67 to 69cm = 415 / 71 to 74cm = 392). On the other hand, if you look at theorbos most are tuned to A 440 or 415 whatever the size. I have played theorbos measuring 74 cm up to 99

[LUTE] Re: baroque lute pitch

2007-12-10 Thread Daniel Winheld
If you take g' at a'=440 as a reasonable pitch for a 60cm string length - and I find a good gut string is fine at that pitch - then the equivalent for f' is about 67cm and for e' about 71cm. So I have no problem tuning a baroque lute to f' at a'=415, as long as the string length is less than

[LUTE] Re: baroque lute pitch

2007-12-09 Thread David Rastall
On Dec 8, 2007, at 1:25 PM, Edward Martin wrote: I certainly can use a gut treble, but I must lower the pitch of the treble. Hi Ed, I'm not entirely sure what you mean here. On a Baroque lute in 415: do you mean simply lessening the string tension by loosening the string to lower the

[LUTE] Re: baroque lute pitch

2007-12-09 Thread Edward Martin
At 12:17 PM 12/9/2007 -0500, David Rastall wrote: On Dec 8, 2007, at 1:25 PM, Edward Martin wrote: I certainly can use a gut treble, but I must lower the pitch of the treble. Hi Ed, I'm not entirely sure what you mean here. On a Baroque lute in 415: do you mean simply lessening the string

[LUTE] Re: baroque lute pitch

2007-12-09 Thread Mathias Rösel
Nigel Solomon [EMAIL PROTECTED] schrieb: What pitch do people tune their baroque lutes to? Baroque lutes tend to be anywhere between 68-75 cm, which is a wide range. Does everyone use a' 415 or higher or lower? Depends on purpose. I use the swanneck for continuo, also, so I have it at a' =

[LUTE] Re: baroque lute pitch

2007-12-08 Thread Roman Turovsky
72 @ 440/444. RT - Original Message - From: Nigel Solomon [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: lute@cs.dartmouth.edu Sent: Saturday, December 08, 2007 8:55 AM Subject: [LUTE] baroque lute pitch What pitch do people tune their baroque lutes to? Baroque lutes tend to be anywhere between 68-75 cm

[LUTE] Re: baroque lute pitch

2007-12-08 Thread Edward Martin
I have an 11 course 67.5 cm mensur, tuned at 415. I also have a 70.5 cm mensur lute, tuned at around 405-410 (I would like to tune at 415, but it is too long to accommodate a treble). I have heard a few baroque lutes down in a = 392, or even lower. I have a few recordings at a very low

[LUTE] Re: baroque lute pitch

2007-12-08 Thread Sal Salvaggio
Hi Nigel I'm usually lower on my 13 course hoffman rider copy. SS --- Nigel Solomon [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: What pitch do people tune their baroque lutes to? Baroque lutes tend to be anywhere between 68-75 cm, which is a wide range. Does everyone use a' 415 or higher or lower? Nigel

[LUTE] Re: baroque lute pitch

2007-12-08 Thread David Rastall
On Dec 8, 2007, at 9:37 AM, Edward Martin wrote: I have an 11 course 67.5 cm mensur, tuned at 415. I also have a 70.5 cm mensur lute, tuned at around 405-410 (I would like to tune at 415, but it is too long to accommodate a treble). Hi Ed, I'm surprised to hear you say that 70.5 cm is

[LUTE] Re: baroque lute pitch

2007-12-08 Thread Edward Martin
Hello, Dave! Thanks for your note. Some people are surprised to hear this, that 70 cm is too long for 415, f (treble). In our times, we are so used to using synthetic strings for a baroque lute, so when we go to gut, we encounter frustration over trebles that break quickly, and will not

[LUTE] Re: baroque lute pitch

2007-12-08 Thread David Tayler
- From: Nigel Solomon [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: lute@cs.dartmouth.edu Sent: Saturday, December 08, 2007 8:55 AM Subject: [LUTE] baroque lute pitch What pitch do people tune their baroque lutes to? Baroque lutes tend to be anywhere between 68-75 cm, which is a wide range. Does everyone use a' 415

[LUTE] Restringing a guitar to lute pitch

2006-12-13 Thread Bruce O. Bowes
I have a 3/4 classical guitar that I would like to restring in nylon so that I can tune it to a lute pitch. The scale is 23 1/4. It would be my hope that I could use the guitar to travel. Volume is not a real concern. I would like to approach if possible the tension of the lute rather than

[LUTE] Re: Restringing a guitar to lute pitch

2006-12-13 Thread Eugene C. Braig IV
At 06:01 PM 12/13/2006, LGS-Europe wrote: I can tune it to a lute pitch. The scale is 23 1/4. It would be my hope What's that in cm? If it's somewhere close to guitar third fret you can use a normal set of guitar strings. Around 59 cm, which doesn't seem out of the question for terz tuning

[LUTE] Re: recommended lute pitch

2006-07-11 Thread Jon Murphy
I have a 63cm VL lute, it is over length for a G chanterelle. (The kit maker has shrunk his lute by a bit since I communicated with him). Look at Andrea Damiani's book, as translated from the Italian by our list member Doc Rossi. Without going into details of string characteristics Damiani lists

[LUTE] Re: recommended lute pitch

2006-07-09 Thread laura_maschi
Bryson [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fecha: Domingo, Julio 9, 2006 0:55 am Asunto: [LUTE] recommended lute pitch Hi everyone - I'm a long-time on-again-off-again amateur lute player, but I have something of a newbie question: I have an old Aria 63 cm lute that I used to play at a'=440. Over the years

[LUTE] Re: recommended lute pitch

2006-07-09 Thread Sean Smith
Steve, You should be able to tease a G (A/440) w/ a nylon top string (mine always did tho I forget the gauge) or a .40mm nylgut. If you manage a gut that makes it it won't last long. W/ any of these the chanterelle will be generally a high squeaky tone than a lower tessura. So, yes, you can

[LUTE] recommended lute pitch

2006-07-08 Thread Steve Bryson
Hi everyone - I'm a long-time on-again-off-again amateur lute player, but I have something of a newbie question: I have an old Aria 63 cm lute that I used to play at a'=440. Over the years the pegs have shrunk and the pegboard has developed cracks so it will no longer hold a'=440. I now