[LUTE] Re: Dowland's Lutes--the hidden piece

2008-07-24 Thread David Tayler
Galliard no 14 in Francisque, which is not in Poulton, is one of Dowland's more interesting pieces. I don't believe it has been recorded--perhaps Rob will be the first and put it on his site :) Perhaps someone recorded it--I did a search at some point It is for 7c lute. dt To get on or

[LUTE] Re: Dowland's Lutes--the hidden piece

2008-07-24 Thread Sauvage Valéry
lute@cs.dartmouth.edu Sent: Thursday, July 24, 2008 11:32 AM Subject: [LUTE] Re: Dowland's Lutes--the hidden piece Galliard no 14 in Francisque, which is not in Poulton, is one of Dowland's more interesting pieces. I don't believe it has been recorded--perhaps Rob will be the first and put

[LUTE] Re: Dowland's Lutes--the hidden piece

2008-07-24 Thread Robert Margo
, July 24, 2008 11:32 AM Subject: [LUTE] Re: Dowland's Lutes--the hidden piece Galliard no 14 in Francisque, which is not in Poulton, is one of Dowland's more interesting pieces. I don't believe it has been recorded--perhaps Rob will be the first and put it on his site :) Perhaps someone

[LUTE] Re: Dowland's Lutes--the hidden piece

2008-07-24 Thread Sauvage Valéry
-cs.dartmouth.edu lute@cs.dartmouth.edu; David Tayler [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, July 24, 2008 3:45 PM Subject: [LUTE] Re: Dowland's Lutes--the hidden piece Hello David, Do you have more precise reference of the galliard you're talking about (14 in Francisque) ? I see only 3 or 4 galliard in my copy

[LUTE] Re: Dowland's Lutes--the hidden piece

2008-07-24 Thread Robert Margo
I'm interested in Mr. Tayler's reasoning. It certainly is a very beautiful setting. Robert Margo On Thu, Jul 24, 2008 at 10:33 AM, David Rastall [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Jul 24, 2008, at 9:53 AM, Robert Margo wrote: I think Mr. Tayler is referring to the 14th piece in Francisque

[LUTE] Re: Dowland's Lutes--the hidden piece

2008-07-24 Thread Rob MacKillop
Just catching up with this topic. A 'new' piece by Dowland is clearly of great interest. Can you be more specific, David? I looked at the 14th piece (thanks for the link to the online facsimile, Valery!) - it seems to be for 8c. On my 69cms lute, the stretches are at times too much, even with my

[LUTE] Re: Dowland's Lutes--the hidden piece

2008-07-24 Thread David Rastall
On Jul 24, 2008, at 9:53 AM, Robert Margo wrote: I think Mr. Tayler is referring to the 14th piece in Francisque (counting from the beginning of the book). I played it this morning. It is definitely a Dowland theme. That's what I was thinking. It's a Dowland theme, which Francisque

[LUTE] Re: Dowland's Lutes--the hidden piece

2008-07-24 Thread David Tayler
Rob is correct--there is a very interesting use of the 7th course to provide an alternate fingering for the low B Flat for voice leading reasons in the third strain. Quintessential Dowland. So ideally it could be played on an eight course or a nine course. Very intriguing; hat tip to Rob, well

[LUTE] Re: Dowland's Lutes--the hidden piece

2008-07-24 Thread adS
David Rastall wrote: On Jul 24, 2008, at 9:53 AM, Robert Margo wrote: I think Mr. Tayler is referring to the 14th piece in Francisque (counting from the beginning of the book). I played it this morning. It is definitely a Dowland theme. That's what I was thinking. It's a Dowland theme,

[LUTE] Re: Dowland's Lutes--the hidden piece

2008-07-24 Thread David Tayler
Are you saying that there are no pieces in CLM that do not have attributions? Also, I must disagree with your characterization of my position concerning Holmes, that's simply not the case, each piece is taken on a case by case basis, such as Farewell Fancy. dt At 11:55 AM 7/24/2008, you wrote:

[LUTE] Re: Dowland's Lutes--the hidden piece

2008-07-24 Thread David Tayler
Rainer has raised the point as to why one would include a piece in the Dowland Canon without attribution. It is a good question. let's take a quick look. It turns out many works by Dowland have no attribution. And this is true for many composers. In The Poulton/Lam edition (CLM) No. 60 is a