orth)
Regards,
Leonard Williams
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From: Jurgen Frenz
To: Leonard Williams
Cc: lute@cs.dartmouth.edu
Sent: Sun, May 24, 2020 8:06 am
Subject: [LUTE] Re: Lute strap
I find the strap discussion quite interesting especially what Leonhard
Will
[1]We could not find the links in the message I sentthey should be
at the bottom of the message So hopefully this information can be
helpful, Anton & Anna
[2]LESSON 1, LUTE STRAP www.luteduo.com
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I find the strap discussion quite interesting especially what
Leonhard
Williams just said - it reminds me (and everybody who likes to think
about his/her playing) that the simple position we
From: Jurgen Frenz
To: Leonard Williams
Cc: lute@cs.dartmouth.edu
Sent: Sun, May 24, 2020 8:06 am
Subject: [LUTE] Re: Lute strap
I find the strap discussion quite interesting especially what Leonhard
Williams just said - it reminds me (and everybody who likes to think
a
playing, however.
> Leonard Williams
> -Original Message-
> From: John Mardinly john.mardi...@asu.edu
> To: howard posner howardpos...@ca.rr.com; Lute List
> lute@cs.dartmouth.edu
> Sent: Sat, May 23, 2020 2:47 pm
> Subject: [LUTE] Re: Lute strap
> I've been playing wi
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From: John Mardinly
To: howard posner ; Lute List
Sent: Sat, May 23, 2020 2:47 pm
Subject: [LUTE] Re: Lute strap
I've been playing without a strap since 1970. However, I must admit
that holding the lute is a bit like holding a greased pig. What works
for me now is r
I’ve been playing without a strap since 1970. However, I must admit that
holding the lute is a bit like holding a greased pig. What works for me now is
rubberized shelf liner:
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01LWAPOO1/ref=sspa_dk_detail_4?psc=1&pd_rd_i=B01LWAPOO1&pd_rd_w=kPNRm&pf_rd_p=48d372c1-f7e1-4
> On May 22, 2020, at 7:19 AM, Christopher Stetson
> wrote:
>
> Hi, all. I've been playing without a strap since 1974. It is possible.
Arthur: Ah. Look, the statue. How do get the cup bit to stay where it is,
unsupported?
Wise Old Bird: It stays there because it’s artistically right.
Art
Am Freitag, 22. Mai 2020 20:35 CEST, "G. C." schrieb:
> I am surprized, that noone has yet mentioned the type of strap that
> you sat on. It seems like a very effective solution.
I think this is maybe because there is no (historical) evidence for suh straps.
IIRC they are
a modern
I am surprized, that noone has yet mentioned the type of strap that
you sat on. It seems like a very effective solution.
And can anybody remind me of the name of that modern X-strap at the
back, which seems like the optimal solution?
G.
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To get on or off this list see li
se after I found nothing
in a dozen paintings, so I stopped to ask here...
That's what the list is for, right? :)
On 22.05.20 13:43, Joachim Lüdtke wrote:
Not to forget the picture of two guy playing in Castaldi's Capricci
a due stromenti … :)
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Betr
hat's what the list is for, right? :)
On 22.05.20 13:43, Joachim Lüdtke wrote:
Not to forget the picture of two guy playing in Castaldi's Capricci
a due stromenti … :)
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Betreff: [LUTE] Re: Lute strap
Datum: 2020-05-22T13:26:04+0200
Von: "Ralf
aldi's Capricci a
due stromenti … :)
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Datum: 2020-05-22T13:26:04+0200
Von: "Ralf Mattes"
An: "Tristan von Neumann"
Am Freitag, 22. Mai 2020 12:24 CEST, Tristan von Neumann
schrieb:
I am going to make m
hat's what the list is for, right? :)
On 22.05.20 13:43, Joachim Lüdtke wrote:
Not to forget the picture of two guy playing in Castaldi's Capricci a due
stromenti … :)
-Original-Nachricht-
Betreff: [LUTE] Re: Lute strap
Datum: 2020-05-22T13:26:04+0200
Von: "Ralf Matte
Not to forget the picture of two guy playing in Castaldi's Capricci a due
stromenti … :)
-Original-Nachricht-
Betreff: [LUTE] Re: Lute strap
Datum: 2020-05-22T13:26:04+0200
Von: "Ralf Mattes"
An: "Tristan von Neumann"
Am Freitag, 22. Mai 2020 12:24
Am Freitag, 22. Mai 2020 12:24 CEST, Tristan von Neumann
schrieb:
> I am going to make myself a nice lute strap.
>
> So I have been digging through paintings...
>
> Weirdly, no one ever seems to use any form of strap...
Look closer/search better. Just two:
- https://www.vanedwards.co.uk/
strap attached to these, there is an extra
level of stability and as he says, no rotating.
Many thanks
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From: Sean Smith
To: lute@cs.dartmouth.edu
Sent: Thursday, 23 July 2015, 4:26
Subject: [LUTE] Re: Lute
I always use a nice screw to strengthen the pegbox to neck joint as this is the
way I was taught in lute building. What do other lute makers do? I am at the
moment making a triple beg box for a baroque lute and am about to configure the
screw and joint. Lutes always have a screw or nail at the n
Sean,
I'd love to see a picture of that if you can point at one?
Anyone else having pictures to go with their various strap configurations, feel
free to chime in.
> On Jul 27, 2015, at 1:32 PM, Sean Smith wrote:
>
>
> Hi Herbert,
>
> When I'm playing and wearing the strap, its pull is abo
Hi Herbert,
When I'm playing and wearing the strap, its pull is about 35 degrees away from
the line of the neck (to the bridge). If you were looking straight at the
belly, the strings would pull away to the left, to the rear and at an acute
angle to the neck. The strings, after they bend aroun
hanks
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From: Sean Smith
To: lute@cs.dartmouth.edu
Sent: Thursday, 23 July 2015, 4:26
Subject: [LUTE] Re: Lute Strap
Charles
I keep an eye out at Goodwills and other used clothing stores for a
useful belt. Years ago I found the perfect Marks & Spencer for a cou
The force from the strap (to some extent) counters the force from the
strings. The strings pull the pegbox in one direction, and
the strap pulls it in more-or-less the opposite direction, so there
is a cancellation effect.
A strap at the pegbox would be much worse if it pulled in
the same directi
deos) you play a proper lute with a
reasonably robust string length.
RA
> Date: Thu, 23 Jul 2015 15:07:12 -0400
> To: spiffys84...@yahoo.com
> CC: csbarker...@att.net; lute@cs.dartmouth.edu
> From: mokot...@gmail.com
> Subject: [LUTE] Re: Lute Strap
>
> I was wondering s
ou play a proper lute with a
reasonably robust string length.
RA
> Date: Thu, 23 Jul 2015 15:07:12 -0400
> To: [2]spiffys84...@yahoo.com
> CC: [3]csbarker...@att.net; [4]lute@cs.dartmouth.edu
> From: [5]mokot...@gmail.com
> Subject: [LUTE] Re: Lute
asonably robust string length.
RA
> Date: Thu, 23 Jul 2015 15:07:12 -0400
> To: spiffys84...@yahoo.com
> CC: csbarker...@att.net; lute@cs.dartmouth.edu
> From: mokot...@gmail.com
> Subject: [LUTE] Re: Lute Strap
>
> I was wondering same.
>
&g
as well.
>>
>> Chris
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: lute-...@cs.dartmouth.edu [mailto:lute-...@cs.dartmouth.edu] On Behalf
>> Of Charles Mokotoff
>> Sent: Thursday, July 23, 2015 6:44 AM
>> To: LuteNet list
>> Subject: [LUTE] Re: Lut
he heel itself
> if it is large enough. I have done this, and it works. Others have been
> happy with it as well.
>
> Chris
>
> -Original Message-
> From: lute-...@cs.dartmouth.edu [mailto:lute-...@cs.dartmouth.edu] On Behalf
> Of Charles Mokotoff
> Sent: Thur
if it is large enough. I have done this, and it works. Others have been
happy with it as well.
Chris
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Of Charles Mokotoff
Sent: Thursday, July 23, 2015 6:44 AM
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Subject: [LUT
many now,
luteless.
Bob Purrenhage
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From: Michael Grant
To: LuteNet list
Sent: Thursday, July 23, 2015 2:37 PM
Subject: [LUTE] Re: Lute Strap
I just spent a week with
A pic would be really helpful - just to see exactly how you attach it
to the pegbox.
I use a guitar strap,at the moment!
Thanks
Tony
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From: Sean Smith
I keep an eye out at Goodwills and other used clothing
I just spent a week with Nigel at the LSA seminar and got to see his
lute up close. He has tied a loop of gut fret to his button and runs
a strap through it (tied at the pegbox). The strap is loose through
the gut fret loop and continues with enough length for him to sit on
it.
Thanks to everyone for the replies. What is clear from my looking the
URLs over is that:
1. No one in the USA is selling these
2. They are a bit expensive for what you get
However, I understand that some of these are quite beautiful and much
nicer than anything I could probably co
On 22/07/2015 8:26 PM, Sean Smith wrote:
I keep an eye out at Goodwills and other used clothing stores for a useful belt.
Years ago I found the perfect Marks & Spencer for a couple of bucks and
modified it for the lute strap. You certainly don't want any metal bits bobbling
around in the case.
Charles
I keep an eye out at Goodwills and other used clothing stores for a useful
belt. Years ago I found the perfect Marks & Spencer for a couple of bucks and
modified it for the lute strap. You certainly don't want any metal bits
bobbling around in the case. I use two dark laces coming off
I buy them from La mi Cinta Dorades: http://lamicintadorada.blogspot.com
I have them for renaissance lutes, baroque lutes, and baroque guitars. They
are very nice. I believe these are the ones that Paul is using - at least I
asked him about it at one point and these were the response. He refers to
Only problem with EB straps is that they have 14 straps advertised but
only 3 are actually available...and those three are relatively
unattractive and priced at 49 Euros.
Michael
On Wed, Jul 22, 2015 at 4:37 PM, David Morales
<[1]dmorale...@cuerdaspulsadas.com> wrote:
Pl
Please, just keep in mind that you can not order the straps from our
online store ([1]cuerdaspulsadas.com) but only by using the contact
form in this page:
[2]http://cuerdaspulsadas.es/blog/la-mi-cinta-dorada/
There you can see a nice video about the straps, they are really
beauti
Or check out the beautiful custom straps from EB straps (they have a
Wordpress website).
David
On Wednesday, July 22, 2015, David Morales
<[1]dmorale...@cuerdaspulsadas.com> wrote:
Just take a look at the straps made by "La Mi Cinta Dorada".
[1][2]http://cuerdaspuls
I bought one just like it from La Mi Cinta Dorada for my 8-course.
[1]http://cuerdaspulsadas.es/blog/la-mi-cinta-dorada/
I like it a lot. It really does help keep the instrument more stable
than a traditional strap.
Jacob Johnson
[?ui=2&ik=101a44c9b6&view=fimg&th=14df0960ba9a5fe1
Just take a look at the straps made by "La Mi Cinta Dorada".
[1]http://cuerdaspulsadas.es/blog/la-mi-cinta-dorada/
Translation available at the top-left corner.
2015-07-22 22:07 GMT+02:00 Charles Mokotoff <[2]mokot...@gmail.com>:
Does anyone know where I could get this strap t
Dear Martyn,
I don't know the picture Kenneth was talking about (I wasn't on the
list at that stage) but there's a Watteau painting of a woman playing
a French theorbo with a strap arrangement which looks more like
bondage! I've put it up for general consumption at
http://www.vanedwards.co.uk/
Yes, I recall you did mention this and I think yours was the sole response I
mentioned at the time!
However later I got an email plus photo attachment from Kenneth Be (8 May
2006) which shows a lute player (two headed lute c.1660) using what looks like
TWO seperate ribbons attached to his
I got a lute strap, decades ago, which was quite a departure from what
I'd seen before for straps. A web search gave no indication that
they're still available, but the basic idea was this: it was a very
long piece of light soft (sued) leather, colored a garish blue
(probably to get more attention
I may have mentioned that my old Basel roommate Robert Clancy used to
use that. I think he used a saxophone strap in place of a button on
his clothing. I found it completely unstable. The thing flopped all
over the place.
On May 3, 2006, at 3:15 PM, Martyn Hodgson wrote:
> Whilst the use
I don't like the idea of a leather giutar strap either.
From my teacher (Massimo Lonardi) I learned to use a simple strap: he
prefers a black, non-slippering one, while I do use a silk coloured one.
The most important detail, as far as I can tell, is to have a solid piece of
string
Dear Stewart,
Thank you for this. However you're mistaken in thinking it not important
wether the gut loop was from the 18thC.
The gut could, for example, have been put on anytime after the instrument's
last use as a Gallichon/Mandora; perhaps to hang it on a wall as a decorative
David,
In fact this feature (ie two pins/pegs) has been pretty widely known for some
time and some plans even show them: eg. off the top of my head: Warwick Frei,
Paris CSNM E540 C516, V&A 1125 1869; these are all 17thC lutes or conversions
made in the 17thC.
Their use, or rather lac
Perhaps modern luthiers don't attach these pegs
because they don't work so well with modern clothing?
I haven't tried it, but I guess that the usefulness
and comfort of hanging a lute off your button will be
strongly dependant on your clothes. For much of the
sixteenth and seventeenth centuries mo
We all have our favorite ways of supporting the lute while we play,
but this particular strap/loop method requires an addition to the
construction of the lute: a second strap peg fitted near the base of
the neck where the neck meets the body.
I've never seen a lute actually from the 16th or
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