[LUTE] Re: Lute recordings in meantone

2009-05-27 Thread David van Ooijen
On Tue, May 26, 2009 at 11:26 PM, Eugene C. Braig IV brai...@osu.edu wrote: [Eugene C. Braig IV] Frankly, nor has any single temperament scheme.  Every New idea: combining temperaments! In my 'hard-core' hip group we are doing that, actually. A quote from the schedule with info for this month:

[LUTE] Re: Lute recordings in meantone

2009-05-27 Thread Eugene C. Braig IV
Groovy...and brrr. Eugene -Original Message- From: lute-...@cs.dartmouth.edu [mailto:lute-...@cs.dartmouth.edu] On Behalf Of David van Ooijen Sent: Wednesday, May 27, 2009 3:27 AM To: Lute List Subject: [LUTE] Re: Lute recordings in meantone On Tue, May 26, 2009 at 11:26 PM

[LUTE] Re: Lute recordings in meantone

2009-05-26 Thread Eugene C. Braig IV
-Original Message- From: lute-...@cs.dartmouth.edu [mailto:lute-...@cs.dartmouth.edu] On Behalf Of Leonard Williams Sent: Friday, May 22, 2009 5:34 PM To: Lute List Subject: [LUTE] Re: Lute recordings in meantone Suggested reading: How Equal Temperament Ruined Harmony

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2009-05-26 Thread Rob MacKillop
Has anyone heard of a well-tempered lute player? -- To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html

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2009-05-23 Thread Daniel Winheld
We recently had our Ivers Pond 1906 Upright Grand tuned to a temperament that one of my lute students insists is Victorian Meantone by her piano tuner that she referred us to. He says she invented that term, but that the meaning is correct. The thirds are sweetened up a little, but not enough

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2009-05-23 Thread Martyn Hodgson
I reviewed it originally for FoMRHI but received no tape/CD and mentioned this in the review MH --- On Fri, 22/5/09, Rob MacKillop luteplay...@googlemail.com wrote: From: Rob MacKillop luteplay...@googlemail.com Subject: [LUTE] Re: Lute recordings in meantone

[LUTE] Re: Lute recordings in meantone

2009-05-23 Thread David van Ooijen
On Fri, May 22, 2009 at 11:59 PM, Rob MacKillop luteplay...@googlemail.com wrote:   There may be one or two of you interested in the banjo c.1860-1900 (as   I am). There was a period of squabbles and unrest as players moved from   fretless instruments to fretted ones. Many of the old (fretless)

[LUTE] Re: Lute recordings in meantone

2009-05-23 Thread Doc Rossi
In relation to the tuning question, how common was the use of a capo? Haven't they been in use since the 17th century? doc On May 23, 2009, at 8:51 AM, David van Ooijen wrote: On Fri, May 22, 2009 at 11:59 PM, Rob MacKillop luteplay...@googlemail.com wrote: There may be one or two of you

[LUTE] Re: Lute recordings in meantone

2009-05-22 Thread David van Ooijen
On Fri, May 22, 2009 at 6:17 PM, howard posner howardpos...@ca.rr.com wrote: I explained to him that pretty much all the solo renaissance lute records made in the recent decades are in some sort of meantone, that players don't tend to advertise their tuning systems, I happen to have seen a

[LUTE] Re: Lute recordings in meantone

2009-05-22 Thread Guy Smith
Of David van Ooijen Sent: Friday, May 22, 2009 9:53 AM To: lute-cs.dartmouth.edu Subject: [LUTE] Re: Lute recordings in meantone On Fri, May 22, 2009 at 6:17 PM, howard posner howardpos...@ca.rr.com wrote: I explained to him that pretty much all the solo renaissance lute records made in the recent

[LUTE] Re: Lute recordings in meantone

2009-05-22 Thread David van Ooijen
On Fri, May 22, 2009 at 7:04 PM, Guy Smith guy_m_sm...@comcast.net wrote: I think POD is usually in 1/4 comma meantone. IIRC, the lutes he's played at LSA all have tastini, and the fret spacing looks like 1/4 comma (it's too irregular for 1/6 comma, anyway). 1/4 MT is just as regular as 1/6,

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2009-05-22 Thread chriswilke
--- On Fri, 5/22/09, Guy Smith guy_m_sm...@comcast.net wrote: From: Guy Smith guy_m_sm...@comcast.net Subject: [LUTE] Re: Lute recordings in meantone To: 'David van Ooijen' davidvanooi...@gmail.com, 'lute-cs.dartmouth.edu' lute@cs.dartmouth.edu Date: Friday, May 22, 2009

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2009-05-22 Thread Martin Shepherd
Dear Rob and All, Yes I still have it (the book) though I'm not sure where the tape is. As I remember, the tape sounded truly dreadful (with due apologies to Jacob, who doubtless was given an impossible job in this case) - the first Prelude from Attaignant (now thought to be probably by

[LUTE] Re: Lute recordings in meantone

2009-05-22 Thread David van Ooijen
On Fri, May 22, 2009 at 10:21 PM, Martin Shepherd mar...@luteshop.co.uk wrote: Something I have only become aware of recently is that piano tuners in the 19th/20th century who thought they were tuning ET actually modified it slightly, They always did and still do. But intentionally, mind you,

[LUTE] Re: Lute recordings in meantone

2009-05-22 Thread Leonard Williams
Suggested reading: How Equal Temperament Ruined Harmony (And Why You Should Care) by Ross W. Duffin. It seems ET has never been universally accepted. Regards, Leonard Williams /[ ] / \ | * | \_=_/ On 5/22/09 4:35 PM, David van Ooijen

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2009-05-22 Thread Roman Turovsky
And nether was MT. RT From: Leonard Williams arc...@verizon.net Suggested reading: How Equal Temperament Ruined Harmony (And Why You Should Care) by Ross W. Duffin. It seems ET has never been universally accepted. Regards, Leonard Williams /[ ] / \ | * |

[LUTE] Re: Lute recordings in meantone

2009-05-22 Thread Roman Turovsky
i.e. neiter. RT And nether was MT. RT From: Leonard Williams arc...@verizon.net Suggested reading: How Equal Temperament Ruined Harmony (And Why You Should Care) by Ross W. Duffin. It seems ET has never been universally accepted. Regards, Leonard Williams /[ ] / \

[LUTE] Re: Lute recordings in meantone

2009-05-22 Thread Rob MacKillop
There may be one or two of you interested in the banjo c.1860-1900 (as I am). There was a period of squabbles and unrest as players moved from fretless instruments to fretted ones. Many of the old (fretless) guys complained that the new frets forced you to play out of tune. Some

[LUTE] Re: Lute recordings in meantone

2009-05-22 Thread Rob MacKillop
This link works better: [1]http://tinyurl.com/oaeu37 Rob 2009/5/22 Rob MacKillop [2]luteplay...@googlemail.com There may be one or two of you interested in the banjo c.1860-1900 (as I am). There was a period of squabbles and unrest as players moved from fretless