[LUTE] Re: Tempo, magnitude and precision.

2013-04-10 Thread howard posner
On Apr 9, 2013, at 1:16 PM, Bruno Correia bruno.l...@gmail.com wrote: Absolute strict time was certainly unknown to them (musicians), we take this idea for granted nowadays because of the mechanical age we live in. Absolute precision is our game not theirsÂ… *Absolute* precision is no

[LUTE] Re: Tempo, magnitude and precision.

2013-04-10 Thread howard posner
On Apr 10, 2013, at 1:37 PM, howard posner howardpos...@ca.rr.com wrote: What they did with that approach was likely as variable as what we do. By which I meant that one person's approach would differ from another's just as we have different approaches today. -- To get on or off this list

[LUTE] Re: Tempo, magnitude and precision.

2013-04-10 Thread Martin Shepherd
Sorry I'm late to this discussion, but for what it's worth: Well said, Howard. Dance and song are what it was all about, back then (and now). Some modern lutenists seem to habitually play out of time in a more or less random manner in an attempt to be expressive rather than boring. (In

[LUTE] Re: Tempo, magnitude and precision.

2013-04-09 Thread Wolfgang Wiehe
Betreff: [LUTE] Re: Tempo, magnitude and precision. Hello Tobiah, Einstein established that time (and space) is affected by gravity. Just think of travelling through a musical piece where its emotional gravity constantly changes. It will speed up and down accordingly, but the metre

[LUTE] Re: Tempo, magnitude and precision.

2013-04-09 Thread Braig, Eugene
: Monday, April 08, 2013 10:27 PM Cc: lute@cs.dartmouth.edu Subject: [LUTE] Re: Tempo, magnitude and precision. Hello Tobiah, How absolute metric time could have been acheived in the Renaissance? The tactus was a constant pulse behind the rhythm, but it was an organic motion not a strict

[LUTE] Re: Tempo, magnitude and precision.

2013-04-09 Thread Bruno Correia
Dear Howard, Who were they? Absolute strict time was certainly unknown to them (musicians), we take this idea for granted nowadays because of the mechanical age we live in. Absolute precision is our game not theirs... If they were dancers, they probably valued musicians who

[LUTE] Re: Tempo, magnitude and precision.

2013-04-09 Thread Leonard Williams
On 4/9/13 7:09 PM, Leonard Williams arc...@verizon.net wrote: In an interview before an audience of classical guitarists, Paul O'Dette addressed (among other things) the issue of strict time in pieces like recercari. His comments were geared somewhat toward one's ability to play more

[LUTE] Re: Tempo, magnitude and precision.

2013-04-08 Thread Bruno Correia
Hello Tobiah, How absolute metric time could have been acheived in the Renaissance? The tactus was a constant pulse behind the rhythm, but it was an organic motion not a strict measured time like a metronome. Actually, the only genre of music (which comes to my mind) that really

[LUTE] Re: Tempo, magnitude and precision.

2013-04-08 Thread Miles Dempster
Hello Tobiah, Einstein established that time (and space) is affected by gravity. Just think of travelling through a musical piece where its emotional gravity constantly changes. It will speed up and down accordingly, but the metre will remain the same. Just a thought. Miles On 2013-04-08,

[LUTE] Re: Tempo, magnitude and precision.

2013-04-08 Thread Christopher Wilke
Tobiah, --- On Mon, 4/8/13, Tobiah t...@tobiah.org wrote: I've heard it expressed by one professor, that absolute metric time was desired during the Renaissance. I very much doubt it. I've never met anyone who was alive during the Renaissance to tell me what people desired in