[LUTE] Re: baroque lute pitch

2007-12-11 Thread Anthony Hind
at this period? Rob www.rmguitar.info -Original Message- From: Martin Shepherd [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 10 December 2007 08:57 To: Lute Net Subject: [LUTE] Re: baroque lute pitch Dear All, I assume, at least as a starting point, that baroque lutes had a a first course tuned reasonably

[LUTE] Re: baroque lute pitch

2007-12-10 Thread Martin Shepherd
Dear All, I assume, at least as a starting point, that baroque lutes had a a first course tuned reasonably close to breaking point just like renaissance lutes (Mimmo has an argument that the limiting factor on a baroque lute is actually the 5th course because it is too thin to be anything

[LUTE] Re: baroque lute pitch

2007-12-10 Thread Rob
about raising the first course to just below breaking point actually come from France at this period? Rob www.rmguitar.info -Original Message- From: Martin Shepherd [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 10 December 2007 08:57 To: Lute Net Subject: [LUTE] Re: baroque lute pitch Dear All, I

[LUTE] Re: baroque lute pitch

2007-12-10 Thread Daniel Winheld
If you take g' at a'=440 as a reasonable pitch for a 60cm string length - and I find a good gut string is fine at that pitch - then the equivalent for f' is about 67cm and for e' about 71cm. So I have no problem tuning a baroque lute to f' at a'=415, as long as the string length is less than

[LUTE] Re: baroque lute pitch

2007-12-09 Thread David Rastall
On Dec 8, 2007, at 1:25 PM, Edward Martin wrote: I certainly can use a gut treble, but I must lower the pitch of the treble. Hi Ed, I'm not entirely sure what you mean here. On a Baroque lute in 415: do you mean simply lessening the string tension by loosening the string to lower the

[LUTE] Re: baroque lute pitch

2007-12-09 Thread Edward Martin
At 12:17 PM 12/9/2007 -0500, David Rastall wrote: On Dec 8, 2007, at 1:25 PM, Edward Martin wrote: I certainly can use a gut treble, but I must lower the pitch of the treble. Hi Ed, I'm not entirely sure what you mean here. On a Baroque lute in 415: do you mean simply lessening the string

[LUTE] Re: baroque lute pitch

2007-12-09 Thread Mathias Rösel
Nigel Solomon [EMAIL PROTECTED] schrieb: What pitch do people tune their baroque lutes to? Baroque lutes tend to be anywhere between 68-75 cm, which is a wide range. Does everyone use a' 415 or higher or lower? Depends on purpose. I use the swanneck for continuo, also, so I have it at a' =

[LUTE] Re: baroque lute pitch

2007-12-08 Thread Roman Turovsky
72 @ 440/444. RT - Original Message - From: Nigel Solomon [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: lute@cs.dartmouth.edu Sent: Saturday, December 08, 2007 8:55 AM Subject: [LUTE] baroque lute pitch What pitch do people tune their baroque lutes to? Baroque lutes tend to be anywhere between 68-75 cm,

[LUTE] Re: baroque lute pitch

2007-12-08 Thread Edward Martin
I have an 11 course 67.5 cm mensur, tuned at 415. I also have a 70.5 cm mensur lute, tuned at around 405-410 (I would like to tune at 415, but it is too long to accommodate a treble). I have heard a few baroque lutes down in a = 392, or even lower. I have a few recordings at a very low

[LUTE] Re: baroque lute pitch

2007-12-08 Thread Sal Salvaggio
Hi Nigel I'm usually lower on my 13 course hoffman rider copy. SS --- Nigel Solomon [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: What pitch do people tune their baroque lutes to? Baroque lutes tend to be anywhere between 68-75 cm, which is a wide range. Does everyone use a' 415 or higher or lower? Nigel

[LUTE] Re: baroque lute pitch

2007-12-08 Thread David Rastall
On Dec 8, 2007, at 9:37 AM, Edward Martin wrote: I have an 11 course 67.5 cm mensur, tuned at 415. I also have a 70.5 cm mensur lute, tuned at around 405-410 (I would like to tune at 415, but it is too long to accommodate a treble). Hi Ed, I'm surprised to hear you say that 70.5 cm is

[LUTE] Re: baroque lute pitch

2007-12-08 Thread Edward Martin
Hello, Dave! Thanks for your note. Some people are surprised to hear this, that 70 cm is too long for 415, f (treble). In our times, we are so used to using synthetic strings for a baroque lute, so when we go to gut, we encounter frustration over trebles that break quickly, and will not

[LUTE] Re: baroque lute pitch

2007-12-08 Thread David Tayler
I use the following pitches professionally for baroque in order of frequency 415.3 // 413 The Baroque standard for baroque orchestras, whatever that means, ymmv (413: some older recorders at 413) 440 (Modern orchestras 17th c. music, some big symphonies are a tad higher) 462-467 (Only 17th c