[LUTE] Re: baroque mandolins etc--- tensions and kgs?

2010-05-31 Thread Martyn Hodgson
--- On Mon, 31/5/10, David Tayler wrote: From: David Tayler Subject: [LUTE] Re: baroque mandolins etc--- tensions and kgs? To: "lute-cs.dartmouth.edu" Date: Monday, 31 May, 2010, 15:38 The lutenist Szabo had a mandolin with silk trebles that was an

[LUTE] Re: baroque mandolins etc--- tensions and kgs?

2010-05-31 Thread Martyn Hodgson
From: EUGENE BRAIG IV Subject: [LUTE] Re: baroque mandolins etc--- tensions and kgs? To: "Lute List" Date: Monday, 31 May, 2010, 15:29 I found the document to which I'd referred. Not as useful as I'd hoped. There are a pair of receipts i

[LUTE] Re: baroque mandolins etc--- tensions and kgs?

2010-05-31 Thread David Tayler
The lutenist Szabo had a mandolin with silk trebles that was an original instrument. You can hear it on Juditha Triumphans with Capella Savaria baroue orchestra--great recording. dt To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html

[LUTE] Re: baroque mandolins etc--- tensions and kgs?

2010-05-31 Thread EUGENE BRAIG IV
the highest course in pairs. I would think splitting a fine gut string would exacerbate issues of inconsistency. Best, Eugene - Original Message - From: Martyn Hodgson Date: Monday, May 31, 2010 2:51 am Subject: [LUTE] Re: baroque mandolins etc--- tensions and

[LUTE] Re: baroque mandolins etc--- tensions and kgs?

2010-05-30 Thread Martyn Hodgson
idence to support this practice. regards Martyn --- On Sun, 30/5/10, davide.rebuffa wrote: From: davide.rebuffa Subject: [LUTE] Re: baroque mandolins etc--- tensions and kgs? To: "Lute List" , "EUGENE BRAIG IV" Date: Sunday, 30 May, 2010,

[LUTE] Re: baroque mandolins etc--- tensions and kgs?

2010-05-30 Thread David Tayler
my experience are that I need >higher tension on small instruments an quite lowe on big instruments >like calichon or theorbo and baroque guitars, but not that low on >the baroque lute. > >regards, > >Davide > >----- Original Message - From: "EUGENE BRAIG IV" >

[LUTE] Re: baroque mandolins etc--- tensions and kgs?

2010-05-30 Thread davide.rebuffa
egards, Davide - Original Message - From: "EUGENE BRAIG IV" To: "Lute List" Sent: Sunday, May 30, 2010 2:43 PM Subject: [LUTE] Re: baroque mandolins etc--- tensions and kgs? Of course it is (common knowledge, that is, at least relatively so). But with modern classical gui

[LUTE] Re: baroque mandolins etc--- tensions and kgs?

2010-05-30 Thread Martyn Hodgson
: Martyn Hodgson <[1]hodgsonmar...@yahoo.co.uk> Date: Sunday, May 30, 2010 8:52 am Subject: Re: [LUTE] Re: baroque mandolins etc--- tensions and kgs? To: Stuart Walsh <[2]s.wa...@ntlworld.com> Cc: Lute List <[3]l...@cs.dartmouth.edu>, EUGENE BRAIG IV <[4]brai...@osu.e

[LUTE] Re: baroque mandolins etc--- tensions and kgs?

2010-05-30 Thread Martyn Hodgson
ies about the nice sound made by Timmermans, but then wondering what the early evidence is for string tensions on the mandolino. regards Martyn To repeat --- On Sun, 30/5/10, EUGENE BRAIG IV wrote: From: EUGENE BRAIG IV Subject: [LUTE] Re: baroque mandolins etc--- ten

[LUTE] Re: baroque mandolins etc--- tensions and kgs?

2010-05-30 Thread EUGENE BRAIG IV
#x27;' strings, I do often use the rough equivalent of the finest gut available in carbon. Best, Eugene - Original Message - From: Martyn Hodgson  Date: Sunday, May 30, 2010 8:52 am Subject: Re: [LUTE] Re: baroque mandolins etc--- tensions and kgs? To: Stuart Walsh Cc: Lute Lis

[LUTE] Re: baroque mandolins etc--- tensions and kgs?

2010-05-30 Thread EUGENE BRAIG IV
Of course, I'd meant "...a better ability to "cut" above accompanying instruments" with mandolino. Best, Eugene - Original Message - From: EUGENE BRAIG IV Date: Sunday, May 30, 2010 8:45 am Subject: [LUTE] Re: baroque mandolins etc--- tensions and kgs? To: Lute

[LUTE] Re: baroque mandolins etc--- tensions and kgs?

2010-05-30 Thread EUGENE BRAIG IV
- Original Message - From: Stuart Walsh Date: Sunday, May 30, 2010 7:08 am Subject: [LUTE] Re: baroque mandolins etc--- tensions and kgs? To: Martyn Hodgson  Cc: Lute List , EUGENE BRAIG IV > > No it's really interesting. I've always glazed over discussions > of

[LUTE] Re: baroque mandolins etc--- tensions and kgs?

2010-05-30 Thread Martyn Hodgson
which has the advantage of allowing numerous comparisons to be made visually all at once. rgds Martyn --- On Sun, 30/5/10, Stuart Walsh wrote: From: Stuart Walsh Subject: [LUTE] Re: baroque mandolins etc--- tensions and kgs? To: "Martyn Hodgson"

[LUTE] Re: baroque mandolins etc--- tensions and kgs?

2010-05-30 Thread EUGENE BRAIG IV
o bad. Best, Eugene - Original Message - From: Martyn Hodgson Date: Sunday, May 30, 2010 4:09 am Subject: [LUTE] Re: baroque mandolins etc--- tensions and kgs? To: Lute List , EUGENE BRAIG IV > >Dear Eugene, > >There is really is no diff

[LUTE] Re: baroque mandolins etc--- tensions and kgs?

2010-05-30 Thread Stuart Walsh
icially at least, more amenable for fingerstyle play. Stuart --- On Sun, 30/5/10, EUGENE BRAIG IV wrote: From: EUGENE BRAIG IV Subject: [LUTE] Re: baroque mandolins etc--- tensions and kgs? To: "Lute List" Date: Sunday, 30 May, 2010, 5:26 I don't know w

[LUTE] Re: baroque mandolins etc--- tensions and kgs?

2010-05-30 Thread Martyn Hodgson
was common knowledge. regards Martyn --- On Sun, 30/5/10, EUGENE BRAIG IV wrote: From: EUGENE BRAIG IV Subject: [LUTE] Re: baroque mandolins etc--- tensions and kgs? To: "Lute List" Date: Sunday, 30 May, 2010, 5:26 I don't know why tension shou

[LUTE] Re: baroque mandolins etc--- tensions and kgs?

2010-05-29 Thread EUGENE BRAIG IV
ven far from what some players use on lutes. On his string calculator page, Arto cites 3.0 kg as his standard and 4.0 as preferred on archlute. Eugene - Original Message - From: Stuart Walsh Date: Friday, May 28, 2010 6:13 pm Subject: [LUTE] Re: baroque mandolins etc

[LUTE] Re: baroque mandolins etc--- tensions and kgs?

2010-05-29 Thread Leonard Williams
I know that Newton is the correct unit for force (tension, in this case), but for those wrong-headed individuals like me who are still talking Kgrams, what is the conversion factor (assuming gravitational force at the earth's surface)? 9.8 N/Kg? On 5/28/10 5:01 PM, "David van Ooijen" wrote:

[LUTE] Re: baroque mandolins etc--- tensions and kgs?

2010-05-29 Thread Martyn Hodgson
Sorry, I meant dear Stuart (!). --- On Sat, 29/5/10, Martyn Hodgson wrote: From: Martyn Hodgson Subject: Fw: Re: [LUTE] Re: baroque mandolins etc--- tensions and kgs? To: "Lute Dmth" Date: Saturday, 29 May, 2010, 9:15 Dear Euge

[LUTE] Re: baroque mandolins etc--- tensions and kgs?

2010-05-29 Thread Martyn Hodgson
sqrt[tension/pye x density]/length x diameter MH --- On Fri, 28/5/10, Stuart Walsh wrote: From: Stuart Walsh Subject: Re: [LUTE] Re: baroque mandolins etc--- tensions and kgs? To: "Eugene C. Braig IV" Cc: "'Martyn Hodgson'" , "

[LUTE] Re: baroque mandolins etc--- tensions and kgs?

2010-05-29 Thread Martyn Hodgson
--- On Sat, 29/5/10, Martyn Hodgson wrote: From: Martyn Hodgson Subject: Fw: Re: [LUTE] Re: baroque mandolins etc--- tensions and kgs? To: "Lute Dmth" , "Stuart Walsh" Date: Saturday, 29 May, 2010, 9:25 Sorry,

[LUTE] Re: baroque mandolins etc--- tensions and kgs?

2010-05-28 Thread Stuart Walsh
David van Ooijen wrote: On Fri, May 28, 2010 at 9:17 PM, Stuart Walsh wrote: Is there a simple explanation, somewhere, of string tensions and what 3kg or 7 kg etc means and what is the significance of it. I've never understood what it's all about. I wrote this some years ago, so I cou

[LUTE] Re: baroque mandolins etc--- tensions and kgs?

2010-05-28 Thread David van Ooijen
On Fri, May 28, 2010 at 9:17 PM, Stuart Walsh wrote: > Is there a simple explanation, somewhere, of string tensions and what 3kg or > 7 kg etc means and what is the significance of it. I've never understood > what it's all about. I wrote this some years ago, so I could understand what it was all

[LUTE] Re: baroque mandolins etc--- tensions and kgs?

2010-05-28 Thread Eugene C. Braig IV
a mass of 4 kg. I'm happy to receive refinements from those who know physics better than I. Eugene > -Original Message- > From: Stuart Walsh [mailto:s.wa...@ntlworld.com] > Sent: Friday, May 28, 2010 3:17 PM > To: Eugene C. Braig IV > Cc: 'Martyn Hodgson'; '

[LUTE] Re: baroque mandolins etc--- tensions and kgs?

2010-05-28 Thread Stuart Walsh
Is there a simple explanation, somewhere, of string tensions and what 3kg or 7 kg etc means and what is the significance of it. I've never understood what it's all about. Stuart Eugene C. Braig IV wrote: Greetings Martyn, Of course, more lute-like mandolins comfortably predate wire-strun