[LUTE] Re: fret positions above the 12th fret (re-re)

2019-03-31 Thread Dan Winheld
te a piece that goes that high. Susan Original message From: Rainer Date: 3/28/19 9:39 AM (GMT-07:00) To: Lute List Subject: [LUTE] Re: fret positions above the 12th fret (re-re) Yes, it's as simple as that. n o, p, .. so

[LUTE] Re: fret positions above the 12th fret (re-re)

2019-03-31 Thread Jurgen Frenz
19 2:34 AM, Susan Price wrote: > > > > > I always have my baroque Lutes with 14 frets, and I use that high g > > > all > > > the time (for instance in the Bach chacone). 2 of my archlutes go up > > > to > > > fret Q because I wrote a piece

[LUTE] Re: fret positions above the 12th fret (re-re)

2019-03-31 Thread Martin Shepherd
Hi All, Just a reminder that I wrote a blog on this subject some time ago: http://luteshop.co.uk/body-frets-who-needs-them/ Martin On 31/03/2019 05:01, Dan Winheld wrote:  Ed- I'm not assuming actual frets. That's why I nearly always use the words "13 semitone" - (or whatever semitone) when

[LUTE] Re: fret positions above the 12th fret (re-re)

2019-03-30 Thread Dan Winheld
 Ed- I'm not assuming actual frets. That's why I nearly always use the words "13 semitone" - (or whatever semitone) when talking about any note above the 8ve. In fact, one should never assume any actual fret above the 8th, 9th, or sometimes 10th. Except, maybe, late German D-minor lutes- the

[LUTE] Re: fret positions above the 12th fret (re-re)

2019-03-30 Thread Ed Durbrow
I’m kind of surprised everyone is assuming there would be frets. What year was the original piece Jurgen? As I understand it, many Renaissance lutes show no evidence of body frets. Ed Durbrow Saitama, Japan http://www.youtube.com/user/edurbrow?feature=watch https://soundcloud.com/ed-durbrow

[LUTE] Re: fret positions above the 12th fret (re-re)

2019-03-29 Thread Jurgen Frenz
ime (for instance in the Bach chacone). 2 of my archlutes go up to > > fret Q because I wrote a piece that goes that high. > > > > Susan > > > > Original message -------- > > From: Rainer > > Date: 3/28/19 9:39 AM (GMT-0

[LUTE] Re: fret positions above the 12th fret (re-re)

2019-03-29 Thread Dan Winheld
ance in the Bach chacone). 2 of my archlutes go up to fret Q because I wrote a piece that goes that high. Susan Original message From: Rainer Date: 3/28/19 9:39 AM (GMT-07:00) To: Lute List Subject: [LUTE] Re: fret positions above the 12th fret (re-re)

[LUTE] Re: fret positions above the 12th fret (re-re)

2019-03-29 Thread Susan Price
(GMT-07:00) To: Lute List Subject: [LUTE] Re: fret positions above the 12th fret (re-re) Yes, it's as simple as that. n o, p, .. so j is the only one that is not used. In those days there was no real difference between "i" and "j". Dowland uses p

[LUTE] Re: fret positions above the 12th fret (re-re)

2019-03-28 Thread Dan Winheld
Dowland uses the 14th semitone- tab letter "p"- which is found in John Langton's Galliard.  Semitone 13, written as (13) can be found in Molinaro's fine fantasia #12, and it is indeed the 20th semi-tone in Toccata #1 by Picinnini from his 2nd book, lower case "l" being the tab letter; which in

[LUTE] Re: fret positions above the 12th fret (re-re)

2019-03-28 Thread Jurgen Frenz
Thanks for your reply. what about Q? Is it used? If so, 't' would refer to c# assuming g tuning and harmonically the piece wouldn't make sense being in F if I remember well. I was assuming q is not used quite like j in order to avoid confusion with o. But I really do not know. Jurgen

[LUTE] Re: fret positions above the 12th fret (re-re)

2019-03-28 Thread Rainer
Yes, it's as simple as that. n=12 o=13, p=14, .. so j is the only one that is not used. In those days there was no real difference between "i" and "j". Dowland uses p somewhere, Piccinini goes much higher (20th fret) and ages ago somebody found a piece that went even higher (I think it was