Dear All,
One of the carriages in the Triumph of Maximilian procession
contains five musicians: three lute players and two viol players.
Does anyone know of a picture from roughly that period (late 15th-
early 16th century), which has three lute players but no other
musicians?
Many thanks,
Stewa
mind. Never mind.
Best wishes to all,
Stewart McCoy.
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From: "Stewart McCoy" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Lute Net" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Tuesday, September 23, 2003 12:32 PM
Subject: Lute trios
> Dear All,
>
> One of the car
Dear All,
Did anyone make at some point a compilation of original =
lute trios for "renaissance" lute?
If someone did, would be possible to have a listing of the pieces and =
sources?
Thanks very much.
Saludos,
A
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Hi,
because I got a of questions about Guitar Trios, I have uploaded some very nice
Transcriptions for classical Guitar Trio.
(I am sure,- never played :-) )
Scores and parts in Guitarnotation - and some mp3 files.
Here is the link:
http://www.mediafire.com/?a8s7kicsu6aec
Agostino Agazza
Stewart wrote:
>
> Dear All,
>
> One of the carriages in the Triumph of Maximilian procession
> contains five musicians: three lute players and two viol players.
> Does anyone know of a picture from roughly that period (late 15th-
> early 16th century), which has three lute players but no other
>
Stewart:
Something I ran across in the Chicago Tribune, of all places -- not a
trio, but rather a duet:
http://www.kfki.hu/~arthp/html/v/vivarini/alvise/ambrose.html
Has anyone seen this in person? If the dimensions given are accurate
this has to be *very* imposing. The barefoot instrumentalis
Hi,
I know of Paccoloni and Besard (Novus Partus).
Best wishes
Thomas
Am Don, 2003-11-06 um 10.34 schrieb arielabramovich:
> Dear All,
> Did anyone make at some point a compilation of original =
> lute trios for "renaissance" lute?
> If someone did, would
Dear Ariel,
There are a few lute trios in Adriaenssen's _Pratum Musicum_
(Antwerp, 1584). There is a facsimile edition with an introduction
and bibliography by Kwee Him Yong, (Buren: Frits Knuf, 1977).
Stewart McCoy.
> > Dear All,
> > Did anyone make at some po
Yes; these are most beautiful. Try Madlonna Mia Pieta, Io vo Gridando -
they are wonderful.
ed
At 07:14 PM 11/6/03 +, Stewart McCoy wrote:
>Dear Ariel,
>
>There are a few lute trios in Adriaenssen's _Pratum Musicum_
>(Antwerp, 1584). There is a facsimile edition with an
Hi,
I revised and uploaded new lute single line (Einstimmige) Lute-Trios at IMSLP
(Remember, you must wait a day or more to download, because IMSLP always checks
all files!
I started with English music for 3 equal lutes (Unisono)
! more will follow !
1.1.1 Michael East: Flye Not Away
HI,
here is the downloadlink for the Lute Trios ad Quartam (2 Lutes in a' + 1 Lute
in e , or 2 Lutes in g' +d)
http://www.mediafire.com/?sharekey=2ff9bbd6c00cf4bce5c3dee5769931ec03da445f908cb26a79b5ba589d1986ba
Hope you enjoy them. I think these pieces are very interesting.
Wa
hi,
I have uploaded 2 new single line trios for 3 equal lutes.
Specially for beginners.
Lupo, Thomas - Fantasia 15
Anonym - Almaine
3 Lutes - Einstimmig (single line-for studying and teaching purposes)
http://www.mediafire.com/?7ici6n7xibivb
Anton
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Hi,
I have uploaded 5 Intavolations for 3 equal lutes (Single line-easy)
--- Titelouze - Magnificat Quinti Toni - Suscepit israel ---
--- Willaert - Ricercar 9
--- Willaert - Ricercar 1 ---
--- Gastoldi, Giovanni Giacomo - Il ballerino ---
--- Schultz, Johannes (1582-165
Hi,
I revised and uploaded new lute single line (Einstimmige) Lute-Trios at IMSLP
(Remember, you must wait a day or more to download, because IMSLP always checks
all files!
I started with English music for 3 lutes (a; g; & D-lutes)
! more will follow !
1.1.2 Alfonso Ferrabosco Sr.: Fant
Hi,
I have updated
A Collection of German Lute Trios (Various)Add File
1.1.1 Orlande de Lassus: Fantasia 28
1.1.1.1 For 3 Lutes (Höger)
1.1.2 Orlande de Lassus: Fantasia 29
1.1.2.1 For 3 Lutes (Höger)
1.1.3 Orlande de Lassus: Fantasia 30
1.1.3.1 For 3 Lutes (Höger)
1.1.4 Heinrich Isaac: J
Hi,
I revised and uploaded new lute single line (Einstimmige) Lute-Trios at IMSLP
1.1.1 Michael East: Flye Not Away (Fantasia)
1.1.2 Michael East: My Lovely Phillis (Fantasia)
1.1.3 Michael East: Trip It Lightly (Fantasia)
1.1.4 Michael East: Turne Round About (Fantasia)
1.1.5 Orlando Gibbons
Hi,
I uploaded new lute single line (Einstimmige) Lute-Trios at IMSLP
A Collection of Italian Lute Trios (Various)
1.1.1 Giovanni Bassano: 7 Fantasias
1.1.2 Giovanni Briccio: In medio Ecclesiae
1.1.3 Adrian Willaert: Ricercar 1
1.1.4 Adrian Willaert: Ricercar 2
1.1.5 Adrian Willaert: Ricercar
Yet although there's lots of evidence - cited by many people - for
professional lute duos c.1500 and earlier, Jon Banks
appears to the only one claiming the existence of amateur lute trios.
Whatever the matter, I'm sure it would be musically worthwhile
playing this music on lutes. It w
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To: "[LUTE]"
Sent: Friday, February 17, 2006 12:17 AM
Subject: [LUTE] Re: Jon Banks lute trios and early bass lutes
> > I still can't quite believe this is genuinely lute music as
opposed to
> > music that is multiply realisable. There a
Hi,
I have updated
A Collection of German Lute Trios (Various)
1.1.1 Orlande de Lassus: Fantasia 1
1.1.1.1 For 3 Lutes (Höger)
1.1.2 Orlande de Lassus: Fantasia 2
1.1.2.1 For 3 Lutes (Höger)
1.1.3 Orlande de Lassus: Fantasia 28
1.1.3.1 For 3 Lutes (Höger)
1.1.4 Orlande de Lassus: Fantasia 29
> I still can't quite believe this is genuinely lute music as opposed to
> music that is multiply realisable. There are many sustained notes,
> sometimes over two bars.
> It doesn't look like lute music.
I don't know Banks' work and his arguments (yet), but unless there is a firm
evidence that the
as reported in the Lute Society's magazine.
> Yet although there's lots of evidence - cited by many people - for
> professional lute duos c.1500 and earlier, Jon Banks
> appears to the only one claiming the existence of amateur lute trios.
> Whatever the matter, I'm sure it
>
>I don't know Banks' work and his arguments (yet), but unless there is a firm
>evidence that these specific pieces were performed on lutes, claims that
>this is genuine music for a lute ensemble are overstatements. Indeed, this
>music *could* have been performed by such an ensemble but also by a
>A player w/ a 5 or 6 course lute could play at least any
>two single voices of a composition and would have been useful in
>consort (as well as part of a duo or a soloist and would probably have
>been expected to be all three).
>
>
This wouldn't be so easy playing with a plectrum, though. Bu
On 2/17/06 9:38 AM, "Stuart Walsh" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> What I find really interesting about the concept of a lute trio playing
> the sort of pieces that Jon Banks has suggested (and others) is that,
> although one lute could play
> two parts, or even three, doing that is simply not the s
Hi Stuart,
>
>> A player w/ a 5 or 6 course lute could play at least any
>> two single voices of a composition and would have been useful in
>> consort (as well as part of a duo or a soloist and would probably have
>> been expected to be all three).
>>
>>
> This wouldn't be so easy playing with a p
For those of you interested in playing this style of music or just
learning more about it, note that Crawford Young will be teaching a
course dedicated to it at the LSA Lute Festival this Summer in Cleveland
(25 through 30 June).
http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~lsa/seminar/index.html
Daniel Heiman
O
Dear Stewart,
Thank you for your long reply.
Just a few points:
> When one is faced with a piece, such as Roelikin's setting of "De
> tous biens plaine", which has a range of notes from a low G to high
> e" flat, one has to consider what instrument can cope. Wind
> instruments cannot, because th
Dear Stewart,
>
> I would add that much of the music under discussion is extremely
> complex rhythmically. If it is to work, it has to be played
> incisively, and exactly in time. I doubt whether viols (which have a
> similar range to the lute) would be as successful.
I'm sorry to play devil's a
On Sat, Feb 18, 2006, Sean Smith <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said:
>
> Dear Stewart,
>
>>
>> I would add that much of the music under discussion is extremely
>> complex rhythmically.
Typical for 15c material; including Hayne, Binchois, and Josquin, all of
which I played extensively with the Collegium
>>
Dana,
>
> one issue to be resolved, how does a lutenist deal with lng notes,
> easy on a bow, they are a challenge to decorate while still maintaining
> suspension (especially if one has difficulty playing like ala
> balalaika).
As I think Stewart pointed out, it should be ok to reiterate
>
>Either we accept Jon Banks' arguments (as I do), and are happy to
>refer to these pieces as music for "lute trio" or "lute consort", or
>we can opt for Michal's more cautious "playable on lutes". Either
>way, the music is there to be enjoyed by us all, and as Sean says,
>it is great fun.
>
>Bes
> But what would the large bass
> instruments have been like? Do any survive from this period?
None from the (late) fifteenth-century. However, as far as I know, surviving
Maler lutes are bass instruments, the earliest from 1520s (? Someone correct
me if I'm wrong).
M
To get on or off this l
Dear Stuart,
From our modest first forays into reading this rep. I've found that
different size lutes help in the following ways:
a) They put the 'voice range' of the line in the center of the lute
fingerboard. When we consider that they probably didn't have roped or
great strings for the bas
The "Lautenweltadressbuch" lists seven lutes attributed to Laux Maler
that have body dimensions available:
WidthDepthDate/Rebuilder
33.5 cm ca. 1520
29.7 ca. 15 before 1550
30.6 15.8 Widhalm 1761
29.3 ca. 15.8Ed
My "bass lute" is only 68cm in string length. I put beefier strings on
it (ie, 6th course = ~1.62mm gut), tune it to D and it works fine.
Btw, a 6c A-lute is very nice but if you really want to enjoy a
sustaining voice, go long.
Sean
On Feb 20, 2006, at 7:29 PM, Daniel F Heiman wrote:
> The
Dear Stuart and All,
When Jon Banks gave a talk to the Lute Society a few years ago, Matthew
Spring played the gittern, Stewart McCoy played the G lute, and I played
a D lute. When we were rehearsing for the concert, I started playing
the bass part on a G lute but found it extremely difficult
Thanks for all the information on bass lutes.
A bass lute (or maybe vihuela?) in D makes a lot of sense. But did
someone recently say that lutes with a top string in d were unknown or
rare. I don't remember who suggested, this and on what authority - and
maybe I've just misremembered it.
To
Hi,
Now You will find under:
http://imslp.org/wiki/A_Collection_of_German_Lute_Trios_%28Various%29
A Collection of German Lute Trios (Various)
These "single-line" Intavolations are intended not only for training purposes
for students (rhythm, listening sessions, interaction) but c
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