Lute trios

2003-09-23 Thread Stewart McCoy
Dear All, One of the carriages in the Triumph of Maximilian procession contains five musicians: three lute players and two viol players. Does anyone know of a picture from roughly that period (late 15th- early 16th century), which has three lute players but no other musicians? Many thanks, Stewa

Lute trios

2003-09-26 Thread Stewart McCoy
mind. Never mind. Best wishes to all, Stewart McCoy. - Original Message - From: "Stewart McCoy" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Lute Net" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Tuesday, September 23, 2003 12:32 PM Subject: Lute trios > Dear All, > > One of the car

lute trios

2003-11-06 Thread arielabramovich
Dear All, Did anyone make at some point a compilation of original = lute trios for "renaissance" lute? If someone did, would be possible to have a listing of the pieces and = sources? Thanks very much. Saludos, A --

[LUTE] Trios

2011-04-04 Thread Anton Höger
Hi, because I got a of questions about Guitar Trios, I have uploaded some very nice Transcriptions for classical Guitar Trio. (I am sure,- never played :-) ) Scores and parts in Guitarnotation - and some mp3 files. Here is the link: http://www.mediafire.com/?a8s7kicsu6aec Agostino Agazza

Re: Lute trios

2003-09-23 Thread corun
Stewart wrote: > > Dear All, > > One of the carriages in the Triumph of Maximilian procession > contains five musicians: three lute players and two viol players. > Does anyone know of a picture from roughly that period (late 15th- > early 16th century), which has three lute players but no other >

Re: Lute trios

2003-09-29 Thread Daniel F Heiman
Stewart: Something I ran across in the Chicago Tribune, of all places -- not a trio, but rather a duet: http://www.kfki.hu/~arthp/html/v/vivarini/alvise/ambrose.html Has anyone seen this in person? If the dimensions given are accurate this has to be *very* imposing. The barefoot instrumentalis

Re: lute trios

2003-11-06 Thread Thomas Schall
Hi, I know of Paccoloni and Besard (Novus Partus). Best wishes Thomas Am Don, 2003-11-06 um 10.34 schrieb arielabramovich: > Dear All, > Did anyone make at some point a compilation of original = > lute trios for "renaissance" lute? > If someone did, would

Re: lute trios

2003-11-06 Thread Stewart McCoy
Dear Ariel, There are a few lute trios in Adriaenssen's _Pratum Musicum_ (Antwerp, 1584). There is a facsimile edition with an introduction and bibliography by Kwee Him Yong, (Buren: Frits Knuf, 1977). Stewart McCoy. > > Dear All, > > Did anyone make at some po

Re: lute trios

2003-11-06 Thread Edward Martin
Yes; these are most beautiful. Try Madlonna Mia Pieta, Io vo Gridando - they are wonderful. ed At 07:14 PM 11/6/03 +, Stewart McCoy wrote: >Dear Ariel, > >There are a few lute trios in Adriaenssen's _Pratum Musicum_ >(Antwerp, 1584). There is a facsimile edition with an

[LUTE] Lute trios

2012-07-08 Thread Anton Höger
Hi, I revised and uploaded new lute single line (Einstimmige) Lute-Trios at IMSLP (Remember, you must wait a day or more to download, because IMSLP always checks all files! I started with English music for 3 equal lutes (Unisono) ! more will follow ! 1.1.1 Michael East: Flye Not Away

[LUTE] Lute Trios ad Quartam

2010-04-16 Thread Anton Höger
HI, here is the downloadlink for the Lute Trios ad Quartam (2 Lutes in a' + 1 Lute in e , or 2 Lutes in g' +d) http://www.mediafire.com/?sharekey=2ff9bbd6c00cf4bce5c3dee5769931ec03da445f908cb26a79b5ba589d1986ba Hope you enjoy them. I think these pieces are very interesting. Wa

[LUTE] 2 little single line lute trios

2011-12-13 Thread Anton Höger
hi, I have uploaded 2 new single line trios for 3 equal lutes. Specially for beginners. Lupo, Thomas - Fantasia 15 Anonym - Almaine 3 Lutes - Einstimmig (single line-for studying and teaching purposes) http://www.mediafire.com/?7ici6n7xibivb Anton -- To get on or off this list see list info

[LUTE] more single line Lute trios (Unisono)

2012-02-05 Thread Anton Höger
Hi, I have uploaded 5 Intavolations for 3 equal lutes (Single line-easy) --- Titelouze - Magnificat Quinti Toni - Suscepit israel --- --- Willaert - Ricercar 9 --- Willaert - Ricercar 1 --- --- Gastoldi, Giovanni Giacomo - Il ballerino --- --- Schultz, Johannes (1582-165

[LUTE] English Lute Trios-a;g;D

2012-07-08 Thread Anton Höger
Hi, I revised and uploaded new lute single line (Einstimmige) Lute-Trios at IMSLP (Remember, you must wait a day or more to download, because IMSLP always checks all files! I started with English music for 3 lutes (a; g; & D-lutes) ! more will follow ! 1.1.2 Alfonso Ferrabosco Sr.: Fant

[LUTE] A Collection of German Lute Trios (Various)

2012-07-11 Thread Anton Höger
Hi, I have updated A Collection of German Lute Trios (Various)Add File 1.1.1 Orlande de Lassus: Fantasia 28 1.1.1.1 For 3 Lutes (Höger) 1.1.2 Orlande de Lassus: Fantasia 29 1.1.2.1 For 3 Lutes (Höger) 1.1.3 Orlande de Lassus: Fantasia 30 1.1.3.1 For 3 Lutes (Höger) 1.1.4 Heinrich Isaac: J&#x

[LUTE] update English Lute trios (Single-line Intavolations)

2012-07-15 Thread Anton Höger
Hi, I revised and uploaded new lute single line (Einstimmige) Lute-Trios at IMSLP 1.1.1 Michael East: Flye Not Away (Fantasia) 1.1.2 Michael East: My Lovely Phillis (Fantasia) 1.1.3 Michael East: Trip It Lightly (Fantasia) 1.1.4 Michael East: Turne Round About (Fantasia) 1.1.5 Orlando Gibbons

[LUTE] A Collection of Italian Lute Trios (Various)

2012-07-21 Thread Anton Höger
Hi, I uploaded new lute single line (Einstimmige) Lute-Trios at IMSLP A Collection of Italian Lute Trios (Various) 1.1.1 Giovanni Bassano: 7 Fantasias 1.1.2 Giovanni Briccio: In medio Ecclesiae 1.1.3 Adrian Willaert: Ricercar 1 1.1.4 Adrian Willaert: Ricercar 2 1.1.5 Adrian Willaert: Ricercar

[LUTE] Jon Banks lute trios and early bass lutes

2006-02-16 Thread Stuart Walsh
Yet although there's lots of evidence - cited by many people - for professional lute duos c.1500 and earlier, Jon Banks appears to the only one claiming the existence of amateur lute trios. Whatever the matter, I'm sure it would be musically worthwhile playing this music on lutes. It w

[LUTE] Jon Banks lute trios and early bass lutes

2006-02-17 Thread Stewart McCoy
quot; <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "[LUTE]" Sent: Friday, February 17, 2006 12:17 AM Subject: [LUTE] Re: Jon Banks lute trios and early bass lutes > > I still can't quite believe this is genuinely lute music as opposed to > > music that is multiply realisable. There a

[LUTE] update - A Collection of German Lute Trios (Various)

2012-07-13 Thread Anton Höger
Hi, I have updated A Collection of German Lute Trios (Various) 1.1.1 Orlande de Lassus: Fantasia 1 1.1.1.1 For 3 Lutes (Höger) 1.1.2 Orlande de Lassus: Fantasia 2 1.1.2.1 For 3 Lutes (Höger) 1.1.3 Orlande de Lassus: Fantasia 28 1.1.3.1 For 3 Lutes (Höger) 1.1.4 Orlande de Lassus: Fantasia 29

[LUTE] Re: Jon Banks lute trios and early bass lutes

2006-02-16 Thread Michal Gondko
> I still can't quite believe this is genuinely lute music as opposed to > music that is multiply realisable. There are many sustained notes, > sometimes over two bars. > It doesn't look like lute music. I don't know Banks' work and his arguments (yet), but unless there is a firm evidence that the

[LUTE] Re: Jon Banks lute trios and early bass lutes

2006-02-16 Thread Sean Smith
as reported in the Lute Society's magazine. > Yet although there's lots of evidence - cited by many people - for > professional lute duos c.1500 and earlier, Jon Banks > appears to the only one claiming the existence of amateur lute trios. > Whatever the matter, I'm sure it

[LUTE] Re: Jon Banks lute trios and early bass lutes

2006-02-17 Thread Stuart Walsh
> >I don't know Banks' work and his arguments (yet), but unless there is a firm >evidence that these specific pieces were performed on lutes, claims that >this is genuine music for a lute ensemble are overstatements. Indeed, this >music *could* have been performed by such an ensemble but also by a

[LUTE] Re: Jon Banks lute trios and early bass lutes

2006-02-17 Thread Stuart Walsh
>A player w/ a 5 or 6 course lute could play at least any >two single voices of a composition and would have been useful in >consort (as well as part of a duo or a soloist and would probably have >been expected to be all three). > > This wouldn't be so easy playing with a plectrum, though. Bu

[LUTE] Re: Jon Banks lute trios and early bass lutes

2006-02-17 Thread Michal Gondko
On 2/17/06 9:38 AM, "Stuart Walsh" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > What I find really interesting about the concept of a lute trio playing > the sort of pieces that Jon Banks has suggested (and others) is that, > although one lute could play > two parts, or even three, doing that is simply not the s

[LUTE] Re: Jon Banks lute trios and early bass lutes

2006-02-17 Thread Sean Smith
Hi Stuart, > >> A player w/ a 5 or 6 course lute could play at least any >> two single voices of a composition and would have been useful in >> consort (as well as part of a duo or a soloist and would probably have >> been expected to be all three). >> >> > This wouldn't be so easy playing with a p

[LUTE] Re: Jon Banks lute trios and early bass lutes

2006-02-17 Thread Daniel F Heiman
For those of you interested in playing this style of music or just learning more about it, note that Crawford Young will be teaching a course dedicated to it at the LSA Lute Festival this Summer in Cleveland (25 through 30 June). http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~lsa/seminar/index.html Daniel Heiman O

[LUTE] Re: Jon Banks lute trios and early bass lutes

2006-02-17 Thread Michal Gondko
Dear Stewart, Thank you for your long reply. Just a few points: > When one is faced with a piece, such as Roelikin's setting of "De > tous biens plaine", which has a range of notes from a low G to high > e" flat, one has to consider what instrument can cope. Wind > instruments cannot, because th

[LUTE] Re: Jon Banks lute trios and early bass lutes

2006-02-17 Thread Sean Smith
Dear Stewart, > > I would add that much of the music under discussion is extremely > complex rhythmically. If it is to work, it has to be played > incisively, and exactly in time. I doubt whether viols (which have a > similar range to the lute) would be as successful. I'm sorry to play devil's a

[LUTE] Re: Jon Banks lute trios and early bass lutes

2006-02-18 Thread demery
On Sat, Feb 18, 2006, Sean Smith <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: > > Dear Stewart, > >> >> I would add that much of the music under discussion is extremely >> complex rhythmically. Typical for 15c material; including Hayne, Binchois, and Josquin, all of which I played extensively with the Collegium

[LUTE] Re: Jon Banks lute trios and early bass lutes

2006-02-18 Thread Sean Smith
>> Dana, > > one issue to be resolved, how does a lutenist deal with lng notes, > easy on a bow, they are a challenge to decorate while still maintaining > suspension (especially if one has difficulty playing like ala > balalaika). As I think Stewart pointed out, it should be ok to reiterate

[LUTE] Re: Jon Banks lute trios and early bass lutes

2006-02-20 Thread Stuart Walsh
> >Either we accept Jon Banks' arguments (as I do), and are happy to >refer to these pieces as music for "lute trio" or "lute consort", or >we can opt for Michal's more cautious "playable on lutes". Either >way, the music is there to be enjoyed by us all, and as Sean says, >it is great fun. > >Bes

[LUTE] Re: Jon Banks lute trios and early bass lutes

2006-02-20 Thread Michal Gondko
> But what would the large bass > instruments have been like? Do any survive from this period? None from the (late) fifteenth-century. However, as far as I know, surviving Maler lutes are bass instruments, the earliest from 1520s (? Someone correct me if I'm wrong). M To get on or off this l

[LUTE] Re: Jon Banks lute trios and early bass lutes

2006-02-20 Thread Sean Smith
Dear Stuart, From our modest first forays into reading this rep. I've found that different size lutes help in the following ways: a) They put the 'voice range' of the line in the center of the lute fingerboard. When we consider that they probably didn't have roped or great strings for the bas

[LUTE] Re: Jon Banks lute trios and early bass lutes

2006-02-20 Thread Daniel F Heiman
The "Lautenweltadressbuch" lists seven lutes attributed to Laux Maler that have body dimensions available: WidthDepthDate/Rebuilder 33.5 cm ca. 1520 29.7 ca. 15 before 1550 30.6 15.8 Widhalm 1761 29.3 ca. 15.8Ed

[LUTE] Re: Jon Banks lute trios and early bass lutes

2006-02-20 Thread Sean Smith
My "bass lute" is only 68cm in string length. I put beefier strings on it (ie, 6th course = ~1.62mm gut), tune it to D and it works fine. Btw, a 6c A-lute is very nice but if you really want to enjoy a sustaining voice, go long. Sean On Feb 20, 2006, at 7:29 PM, Daniel F Heiman wrote: > The

[LUTE] Re: Jon Banks lute trios and early bass lutes

2006-02-21 Thread Martin Shepherd
Dear Stuart and All, When Jon Banks gave a talk to the Lute Society a few years ago, Matthew Spring played the gittern, Stewart McCoy played the G lute, and I played a D lute. When we were rehearsing for the concert, I started playing the bass part on a G lute but found it extremely difficult

[LUTE] Re: Jon Banks lute trios and early bass lutes

2006-02-22 Thread Stuart Walsh
Thanks for all the information on bass lutes. A bass lute (or maybe vihuela?) in D makes a lot of sense. But did someone recently say that lutes with a top string in d were unknown or rare. I don't remember who suggested, this and on what authority - and maybe I've just misremembered it. To

[LUTE] A Collection of German single-line Intavolations Lute Trios (Various)

2012-07-09 Thread Anton Höger
Hi, Now You will find under: http://imslp.org/wiki/A_Collection_of_German_Lute_Trios_%28Various%29 A Collection of German Lute Trios (Various) These "single-line" Intavolations are intended not only for training purposes for students (rhythm, listening sessions, interaction) but c